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10 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

The two week "special military operation" didn't pan out for Putin. :lol: 

Now he's lying about "special weapons" and gullible boy laps it up. 

NATO is running low on military equipment... & we've spent how much now?

Who's winning ?

 

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Another $50 billion should beat the Russians eh guys? The story is starting to change, the lies that Ukraine was winning are no longer being pushed. The Ukis are running out of weapons and troops and Russia is softening up the rest of the country for invasion. Good job guys letting that country get destroyed and costing the US tax payers $100 billion so some European rich guys could steal the oil and gas market from Russia. yay! 

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1 minute ago, Anler said:

Another $50 billion should beat the Russians eh guys? The story is starting to change, the lies that Ukraine was winning are no longer being pushed. The Ukis are running out of weapons and troops and Russia is softening up the rest of the country for invasion. Good job guys letting that country get destroyed and costing the US tax payers $100 billion so some European rich guys could steal the oil and gas market from Russia. yay! 

" it's for the children " 

No wait " better to fight them over there then over here " 

or " freedom isnt free "

 

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3 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

" it's for the children " 

No wait " better to fight them over there then over here " 

or " freedom isnt free "

 

Its disgusting really. The entire world is falling apart over this and it never should have happened. 

 

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This war was 100% avoidable by just removing NATO countries from Russian borders.  If Russia attacked any of them there would be no reason the world couldn't still come to their defense. 

We took the world closer to nuclear war than any time in history because Russia parked some nukes in Cuba.  Hypocritical considering where we have missiles and nuclear capable bombers...not to mention nuclear missile subs. 

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44 minutes ago, Highmark said:

This war was 100% avoidable by just removing NATO countries from Russian borders.  If Russia attacked any of them there would be no reason the world couldn't still come to their defense. 

We took the world closer to nuclear war than any time in history because Russia parked some nukes in Cuba.  Hypocritical considering where we have missiles and nuclear capable bombers...not to mention nuclear missile subs. 

Yup...the neolibs have wanted war with Russia for 10 yrs or so 

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13 hours ago, akvanden said:

Russia’s already lost, no matter what happens next.

so if they completely wipe out ukraine now its still a victory for ukraine?

 

ok retard.:handjob:

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17 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Winter can be a Russia ally in war.   Playing them off as defeated is very foolish. 

i think there was a war won largely due to that ......obscure small one no ones heard of.

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1 hour ago, ZR800efi said:

so if they completely wipe out ukraine now its still a victory for ukraine?

 

ok retard.:handjob:

Completely wipe out Ukraine, with what? They don’t have the resources, and they’re not going to use a nuke.


But hypothetically speaking, yes, they could take ALL Ukraine and might be set back 20 years rather than only the 10 they’re currently setback. This war isn’t so much that we love Ukraine as much as we’re using it to knock Russia down. Remember that.


 

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17 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Completely wipe out Ukraine, with what? They don’t have the resources, and they’re not going to use a nuke.


But hypothetically speaking, yes, they could take ALL Ukraine and might be set back 20 years rather than only the 10 they’re currently setback. This war isn’t so much that we love Ukraine as much as we’re using it to knock Russia down. Remember that.


 

Appears Russia wasn't that strong to need knocking down.   Bigger fish to worry about if you ask me. 

Why does Russia scare the pro Ukraine war people so much?  2016 election "interference?"  :lmao:

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9 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Completely wipe out Ukraine, with what? They don’t have the resources, and they’re not going to use a nuke.


But hypothetically speaking, yes, they could take ALL Ukraine and might be set back 20 years rather than only the 10 they’re currently setback. This war isn’t so much that we love Ukraine as much as we’re using it to knock Russia down. Remember that.


 

Says who? Russia has unlimited fuel, plenty of weaponry and now half a million troops. 

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Appears Russia wasn't that strong to need knocking down.   Bigger fish to worry about if you ask me. 

Why does Russia scare the pro Ukraine war people so much?

Yup, Russia grossly miscalculated and mismanaged their “special military operation.”
 

Why the worry? Because they invade and annex land, permanently. Smaller countries bordering Russia have every right to be concerned. 

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2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Yup, Russia grossly miscalculated and mismanaged their “special military operation.”
 

Why the worry? Because they invade and annex land, permanently. Smaller countries bordering Russia have every right to be concerned. 

Simple knowledge of their current and past economy is enough for anyone to realize their military is not the powerhouse NATO likes to sell it as.

Sure they do but why do we?  

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4 minutes ago, Anler said:

Says who? Russia has unlimited fuel, plenty of weaponry and now half a million troops. 

Unlimited fuel without the logistics to get it to where it’s needed efficiently. Plenty of weaponry? Sure, that’s why they’re outsourcing to Iran and N Korea and bringing out 50 year old tanks. Because they have plenty.

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