Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 https://jalopnik.com/theres-only-a-25-day-supply-of-diesel-in-the-u-s-repo-1849687971 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 What a fucking disaster waiting to happen…goddamn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I'll never own another diesel vehicle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: What a fucking disaster waiting to happen…goddamn. “As a refinery, are you willing to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in capital expenditures to extend the life of the refinery by 30 to 40 years in an environment where fossil fuel demand has plateaued and government and state policies have been enacted to reduce demand?” Lipow said, laying out the conundrum refinery managers face as they look to the future. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/as-diesel-prices-soar-past-crude-refining-squeeze-challenges-oil-markets going all in on EV's... has ramifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Diesel is back up to about 7 bucks a gallon at the marina. Wonderful job Joe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Diesel is back up to about 7 bucks a gallon at the marina. Wonderful job Joe. Sorry Thurston but I’m more concerned about the effects on food prices, truckers, farmers ect… Edited October 26, 2022 by Jimmy Snacks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 This is sucking bigly. Glad hay making season is over and hopefully something is straightened out by next May. The question remains, would this have happened under a different administration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Let's stop all pipelines and drilling leases. That way we can move any oil by DIESEL operated rail, which in turn takes room from the ability for rail to move any corn. What a bunch of no minded simpletons we currently have in political positions now-a-days. GO GREEN ENERGY!!! SAVE THE PLANET!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Diesel is back up to about 7 bucks a gallon at the marina. Wonderful job Joe. 39 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Sorry Thurston but I’m more concerned about the effects on food prices, truckers, farmers ect… and 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, racer254 said: Let's stop all pipelines and drilling leases. That way we can move any oil by DIESEL operated rail, which in turn takes room from the ability for rail to move any corn. What a bunch of no minded simpletons we currently have in political positions now-a-days. GO GREEN ENERGY!!! SAVE THE PLANET!!! an bigger issue refining the oil we are already producing and not exporting. then transporting it. ethanol should also be removed from all fuels sold in the US. big picture thinking here sport https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/200-diesel-puts-biden-in-an-ugly-corner/2022/10/18/16df4926-4ee9-11ed-ada8-04e6e6bf8b19_story.html Russian invasion of Ukraine, not helping matters. July of this year we exported 1.2m barrels of diesel to Latin America. Edited October 26, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: an bigger issue refining the oil we are already producing and not exporting. then transporting it. ethanol should also be removed from all fuels sold in the US. big picture thinking here sport https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/200-diesel-puts-biden-in-an-ugly-corner/2022/10/18/16df4926-4ee9-11ed-ada8-04e6e6bf8b19_story.html Russian invasion of Ukraine, not helping matters. July of this year we exported 1.2m barrels of diesel to Latin America. Do you know the reason refineries are not being built? That's the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Seems republicans jere or whatever you call yourselves these days hate the global marketplace. A socialist US taxpayer controlled oil company can fix that…..but the rethugs can’t have that. No the best they can do is whine complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Do you know the reason refineries are not being built? That's the big picture. of course I do, it's more profitable not to invest in refineries and we're being pushed towards an transportation energy source that doesn't benefit them financially. if 'big oil' wanted to add more refineries in this country they've had ample opportunities to do so during oil freindly administrations. to be clear, I'm not in favor of going all in on EVs. we're not ready, not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I’m waiting for the first oil company to offer EV recharging stations at their gas stations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Dan Kish, a senior fellow at the Institute for Energy Research, blamed the decreased refinery capacity and lack of new greenfield projects on the growing number of environmental regulations and required permits. “We’ve gone from many smaller refineries to refineries operating more efficiently and more economically,” Kish told TheDCNF in an interview. “Just like everything else, it’s very difficult to build anything or to keep anything operating in the United States where we have the strictest environmental laws in the world.” “They keep squeezing emissions through Clean Air Act, through [the National Environmental Policy Act],” he continued. “They just throw lots of red tape at these folks and it makes it harder and harder to stay afloat.” Edited October 26, 2022 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: of course I do, it's more profitable not to invest in refineries and we're being pushed towards an transportation energy source that doesn't benefit them financially. if 'big oil' wanted to add more refineries in this country they've had ample opportunities to do so during oil freindly administrations. to be clear, I'm not in favor of going all in on EVs. we're not ready, not even close. Kind of hard to update and build additional refining capabilities when the government strangles your industry making it almost impossible to get shit done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Seems republicans jere or whatever you call yourselves these days hate the global marketplace. A socialist US taxpayer controlled oil company can fix that…..but the rethugs can’t have that. No the best they can do is whine complain. Just when I think you can't get any dumber you say hold my white owl and watch this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 Nobody really wants a refinery in their backyards anymore. The toxic fallout and the destroyed water table has a pretty negative health effects to those that live in proximity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, racer254 said: Dan Kish, a senior fellow at the Institute for Energy Research, blamed the decreased refinery capacity and lack of new greenfield projects on the growing number of environmental regulations and required permits. “We’ve gone from many smaller refineries to refineries operating more efficiently and more economically,” Kish told TheDCNF in an interview. “Just like everything else, it’s very difficult to build anything or to keep anything operating in the United States where we have the strictest environmental laws in the world.” “They keep squeezing emissions through Clean Air Act, through [the National Environmental Policy Act],” he continued. “They just throw lots of red tape at these folks and it makes it harder and harder to stay afloat.” can you show us the last proposal for a major refinery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nobody really wants a refinery in their backyards anymore. The toxic fallout and the destroyed water table has a pretty negative health effects to those that live in proximity. No one wants a battery plant in their backyard either. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Deephaven said: No one wants a battery plant in their backyard either. This isn’t about batteries. It’s about oil and refineries. What is the need to always attempt to divert from the topic when negatives are exposed? Very weak positioning bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Deephaven said: No one wants a battery plant in their backyard either. or a lithium mine we're in a squabble right now with China over battery production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, BOHICA said: This isn’t about batteries. It’s about oil and refineries. What is the need to always attempt to divert from the topic when negatives are exposed? Very weak positioning bro. pretty sure I dragged EVs into the conversation in post one of the thread bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: pretty sure I dragged EVs into the conversation in post one of the thread bubba. So batteries are ultimately responsible on why no new refineries are built? Trump pretty much eliminated the enviromental red tape during his presidency for oil refinery building and oil exploration. None were even explored to be built by big oil. They only shut them down during Trumps reign. if you live around a refinery you are going to get cancer, many birth defects will be present, respiratory diseases are prevalent. same things from a battery factory such as Giga Nevada? Edited October 26, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 Oil refinery vs battery factory… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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