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DriftBusta Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 One of the most bullshit pieces of fuck I've read this week. This will backfire bigtime on them. At least it should. A separate subscription fee to activate a heating element. Can you just imagine the calls to customer service over a billing issue on a -30 day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: One of the most bullshit pieces of fuck I've read this week. This will backfire bigtime on them. At least it should. A separate subscription fee to activate a heating element. Can you just imagine the calls to customer service over a billing issue on a -30 day? It’s the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Lol capitalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 They can fuck all the way off with this concept. If they need to show ARR to shareholders, stop selling cars outright and go to a 100pct leased business model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt said: They can fuck all the way off with this concept. If they need to show ARR to shareholders, stop selling cars outright and go to a 100pct leased business model. GM has already completed market analysis. They found that vehicle owners are willing to pay up to $140/mo for extra features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 45 minutes ago, spin_dry said: GM has already completed market analysis. They found that vehicle owners are willing to pay up to $140/mo for extra features. When my 5 year subscription to OnStar remote services via mobile app, I was bummed, but I didn't renew it since I can still use the key fob to remote start if I'm close enough. On my wife's car, unfortunately, the only to remote start it is via the app which is $20/month. We pay for that from May to Sept every year here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 15, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 Smart people will get around most of this. It’s pretty simple to remove the seat cover and add your own heating element 100 in parts and couple hours of time. Shops will get real busy if they start doing stuff like this. Why would I pay $100 a month or whatever it is to use remote start and heated seats when I could add both myself for under 400 bucks maybe 1k if you’re paying someone to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Matt said: They can fuck all the way off with this concept. If they need to show ARR to shareholders, stop selling cars outright and go to a 100pct leased business model. I can understand paying a fee for content like SIrius, service like Onstar, etc.. But to turn a fucking switch? No way. I can see going to a model like Volvo, where you pay a fee for everything, taxes, insurance, maintenance, etc.. but not heated seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: Smart people will get around most of this. It’s pretty simple to remove the seat cover and add your own heating element 100 in parts and couple hours of time. Shops will get real busy if they start doing stuff like this. Why would I pay $100 a month or whatever it is to use remote start and heated seats when I could add both myself for under 400 bucks maybe 1k if you’re paying someone to do it. My 1980 Saab had heated seats over 40 years ago, having to resort to things like this to override something that should be standard equipment. Whats next, a power window fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Capitalists gonna capital... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 15, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, DriftBusta said: My 1980 Saab had heated seats over 40 years ago, having to resort to things like this to override something that should be standard equipment. Whats next, a power window fee? I agree it’s completely stupid and a power window fee wouldn’t surprise me 😂. I know there is a app for bmw to turn the xdrive on and off so maybe it be as easy as a app if the options are already installed in the car and it’s as simple as turning them on?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 @Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Service and Repair Information Subscribers will get access to service manuals, part catalogs, and body repair resources for all Tesla vehicles, along with wiring diagrams and tooling indexes. Also included in the subscription package are service bulletins and labor codes/times. Pricing $31.88 USD/hour $106.25 USD/day $371.88 USD/month $3,187.5 USD/year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, Snake said: Service and Repair Information Subscribers will get access to service manuals, part catalogs, and body repair resources for all Tesla vehicles, along with wiring diagrams and tooling indexes. Also included in the subscription package are service bulletins and labor codes/times. Pricing $31.88 USD/hour $106.25 USD/day $371.88 USD/month $3,187.5 USD/year Warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 $100 a month, after the $10k initial cost, for self driving.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 15, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Snake said: Service and Repair Information Subscribers will get access to service manuals, part catalogs, and body repair resources for all Tesla vehicles, along with wiring diagrams and tooling indexes. Also included in the subscription package are service bulletins and labor codes/times. Pricing $31.88 USD/hour $106.25 USD/day $371.88 USD/month $3,187.5 USD/year At least bmw will sell you parts to fix your car on your own. Tesla won’t sell any non certified shop a part even if your the owner of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 BMW does not have a self-driving car yet—but it's on the way. While BMW has been working on autonomous driving for years, they are keeping safety and consumer value at the forefront of their commercial offerings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 You have to pay to heat your bum, imagine how much self driving will cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted July 15, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 JUNK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted July 15, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just think of the savings, with the exceptions of paint, trim choices and other small details they can make the cars mechanically identical on the assembly line. Customer pics options they want at the dealer and it's now custom. I don't think it should be subscription based but pay once when buying the car. Picked up a used one? Get the options you want added for a fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 I never use the swamp ass initiator in my truck anyways. Maybe the heated lumber for my lower back a couple times a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Yeah, I'll pass. My ass don't need to be this toasty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) But research from GoCompare Car Insurance has found BMW drivers are the most likely to speed, run a red light or make an at-fault claim https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/motoring/revealed-drivers-type-car-most-2334882 Edited July 15, 2022 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 15, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Just wait. We don't like your social score then we are turning off this function of your car. Oh we see you spend x amount on home utilities....limit how far your car will go. It won't just be private industry the govt will start to drive it if the liberals are in control. Any mfg that does this shit isn't getting a penny of my money again. Edited July 15, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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