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WOW!!  Spending ~$5000 on my 12,000 mile 2018 XCR Switchback 800 for a new track, motor, clutches and other misc things isn't looking so bad after all.

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agree, and that's where I wonder if there is a potential niche to fill.  something a high school or college kid could afford payments on and beat the piss out of it without breaking the sled or the ba

WOW!!  Spending ~$5000 on my 12,000 mile 2018 XCR Switchback 800 for a new track, motor, clutches and other misc things isn't looking so bad after all.

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2 hours ago, 800renegaderider said:

You forgot the most important 600 sled on the market the 600efi 

I was sticking to the 120hp+ sleds.

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yep.no question it sell.

 

not everyone needs 200 hp or got 20 grand to spend.especially with the last few winters

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a revamped 500 cc ves like was in the old edge xcsp in a light chassis like the tweener evo chassis be pretty cool.

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On 6/20/2022 at 4:20 PM, ZR800efi said:

a revamped 500 cc ves like was in the old edge xcsp in a light chassis like the tweener evo chassis be pretty cool.

They don’t sell well. Skidoo has the 85 hp 2 stroke non pv engine sled. they also have it in the so called tweener sled. Excellent value but the 600/800 etech kills it in sales 

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35 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

They don’t sell well. Skidoo has the 85 hp 2 stroke non pv engine sled. they also have it in the so called tweener sled. Excellent value but the 600/800 etech kills it in sales 

i was thinking more in the 105 hp range.thats where that 500 fell in.

 

but unless its a very much lower price, yeah , 600 cc would be the one more would choose if there only seperated by a few dollars.the price difference would need to be significant

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20 hours ago, ZR800efi said:

i was thinking more in the 105 hp range.thats where that 500 fell in.

 

but unless its a very much lower price, yeah , 600 cc would be the one more would choose if there only seperated by a few dollars.the price difference would need to be significant

It’s significantly less than an etech 600. If they wanted a 100hp class sled they could have one in about 5 minutes as the big 3 already make them for racing. The sled market has been flat for a decade and it is pretty much known what sells and what doesn’t now. As crappy as cat’s sales are, they have trimmed to their offering down to what 85% of the snowmobile market buys. when the economy slows down you will see the others trim down to similar speced sleds as cat. 

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1 hour ago, Not greg b said:

It’s significantly less than an etech 600. If they wanted a 100hp class sled they could have one in about 5 minutes as the big 3 already make them for racing. The sled market has been flat for a decade and it is pretty much known what sells and what doesn’t now. As crappy as cat’s sales are, they have trimmed to their offering down to what 85% of the snowmobile market buys. when the economy slows down you will see the others trim down to similar speced sleds as cat. 

i cant argue the markets tanking.i think with increased msrps and shittier and shittier winters, by only offering a 600 cc and 850 or 800 cc, there probably pricing alot of guys out of the market.

 

you tack on the retarded gas prices and you got a recipe for 'well fuck snowmobiling , i guess'.

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I miss our 500 XC SP and still regret selling it.

As much as I admire Cat for bringing the 400 single to market (I've ridden it, and liked it), I think it will eventually fizzle.  I don't understand why Polaris still makes the 550.  Ski Doo knows how to make money with their detuned Rotax - that could be the blueprint for Polaris and whoever is left after Yamaha moves production across town to Argo.... 

 

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On 11/20/2021 at 10:59 PM, Premium said:

I agree with many here I'm not sure I see the viability.  I have an R-XC and it's an awesome sled...everything is there to be fun, aggressive, durable, and ultra capable. The power from the c-tec2 600 and it's characteristics are top notch for the displacement, but I certainly wouldn't want less.  So where to save money? I suppose I could live with a basic gauge, but I like the functionality and I'd maybe save a couple hundred? Unpainted tunnel could work to save a little but not much (and a painted tunnel is superior both in looks and snow shedding too).

The closest to what you're talking about is the sno pro 500, but as good as that sled was, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't admit it would be even better with a 600 (or more).

guess we'll have to wait and see what the story is here... ;)

 

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I wonder how much weight they've dropped with the new platform....A 460lb modern day 08-11 sno pro with the ctec2 600 sounds like a party to me.

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