akvanden Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Follow the money. The rest are just scared sheep. What money are the countries excluding the US following? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, akvanden said: What’s really strange is how it became political. Even stranger how its affecting every country across the world, capitalist, socialist, communist, authoritarian, etc. Even stranger that not a single other country has figured out these therapies so they could have just avoided f-ing their economies, deaths, etc altogether. All.very.strange. ? lots of other countries are using these proper treatments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 hours ago, ACE said: ? lots of other countries are using these proper treatments. Which countries are using as their primary treatment? “Using” is not the same as officially endorsing, as example here in the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, akvanden said: Which countries are using as their primary treatment? “Using” is not the same as officially endorsing, as example here in the states. This tickled me. Nobody loves their big pharma like the US and Canada!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: This tickled me. Nobody loves their big pharma like the US and Canada!!! No! This isn’t why there is shit like lottery tickets being give away if you go get the shot, or anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) On 7/16/2021 at 11:46 AM, ACE said: It’s literally on the NIH website this shit is all seriously fucked Yep and not ONE reported or "journalist" has asked Fauci about it. Edited July 19, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 7:58 AM, Anler said: So is bleach! Don't forget uv light. Just somehow have to get it into the body, mused an idiot or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Don't forget uv light. Just somehow have to get it into the body, mused an idiot or two. UV light therapies have been used for years with success. Just because people don't know this and because the Dem/Lib gov't laughed at it because of Trump touting it, doesn't mean it doesn't work. It still amazes me how many people will listen to and believe MSM as fact. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/uv-lights-and-lamps-ultraviolet-c-radiation-disinfection-and-coronavirus https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3427189/ https://www.cnet.com/health/can-uv-light-protect-you-from-covid-19/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 The alt left is going to be forever triggered by the word hydroxychloroquine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, irv said: It still amazes me how many people will listen to and believe MSM as fact. Ignore MSM, just read the randomized double blind clinical studies. They're called the golden standard for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, akvanden said: Ignore MSM, just read the randomized double blind clinical studies. They're called the golden standard for a reason. Sorry to hear you have been gut hooked by them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, irv said: Sorry to hear you have been gut hooked by them as well. Obvious CBC\CTV watcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, irv said: Sorry to hear you have been gut hooked by them as well. And yet if ivermectin was proven in a clinical trial to work, you'd be all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, akvanden said: And yet if ivermectin was proven in a clinical trial to work, you'd be all over it. The head vaccinologist at the university of Guelph says all recent trials shows that ivermectin works, and pointed out that he was very skeptical of it. trust the experts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, akvanden said: And yet if ivermectin was proven in a clinical trial to work, you'd be all over it. India, Mexico, Panama, Slovakia and Czech Rep. have all had incredible success with Ivermectin. You do understand that a vaccine CANNOT get emergency use authorization if a suitable treatment is available. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/05/india-just-became-latest-country-to-approve-use-of-ivermectin-to-treat-covid-19.html 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, ACE said: The head vaccinologist at the university of Guelph says all recent trials shows that ivermectin works, and pointed out that he was very skeptical of it. trust the experts I'm all about it if it is proven effective. It seems like that's the biggest difference - I hope these types of things work, other hope vaccines don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: I'm all about it if it is proven effective. It seems like that's the biggest difference - I hope these types of things work, other hope vaccines don't work. Not sure where you are coming up with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, irv said: UV light therapies have been used for years with success. Just because people don't know this and because the Dem/Lib gov't laughed at it because of Trump touting it, doesn't mean it doesn't work. It still amazes me how many people will listen to and believe MSM as fact. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/uv-lights-and-lamps-ultraviolet-c-radiation-disinfection-and-coronavirus https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3427189/ https://www.cnet.com/health/can-uv-light-protect-you-from-covid-19/ "Other hope the vaccine doesnt work"? you saying others hope it wont work?? who is saying thAT? and UV treatment is a thing with covid. when we built the Covid hospital in Boston it was early on in the treatment of the bug, but ultra violet lights were brought in after a while and they were hung allll over the recovery areas. part of the recovery process was to take the patients out side as often as they could,, "when the sun was out". UV light was a big part of treatment, strange it was not really talked about and the importance of it. Edited July 19, 2021 by old indy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: India, Mexico, Panama, Slovakia and Czech Rep. have all had incredible success with Ivermectin. You do understand that a vaccine CANNOT get emergency use authorization if a suitable treatment is available. https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/05/india-just-became-latest-country-to-approve-use-of-ivermectin-to-treat-covid-19.html Those aren't clinical studies. Those timelines also coincide with mass availability of vaccine, and summer/warm weather (which you guys are keen on pointing out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not sure where you are coming up with that. How many threads have been started casting doubt on the vaccine. How many threads have been started casting doubt on other "treatments?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: Those aren't clinical studies. Those timelines also coincide with mass availability of vaccine, and summer/warm weather (which you guys are keen on pointing out). Agreed however their introduction should not be overlooked. It obviously had a significant impact as well as other factors. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine have decades of safe use. We don't have decades of data on mRNA vaccines. The problem here remains that EUA cannot occur with suitable treatments so they WON'T give these proven safe alternatives a look in the US. That and because Orange man said it might be effective. I have a huge issue with that. They wanted their vaccine so they made it political and ignored other possible alternatives. Edited July 19, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, akvanden said: How many threads have been started casting doubt on the vaccine. How many threads have been started casting doubt on other "treatments?" Dude casting doubt is a far cry from wishing it doesn't work. GMAFB dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: Dude casting doubt is a far cry from wishing it doesn't work. GMAFB dude. And here I thought everyone had already made up their mind and thought it was a farce. Glad to hear glad to hear you're still hopeful for it - maybe we'll see some hopeful posts sometime soon. Edited July 19, 2021 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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irv Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, akvanden said: And here I thought everyone had already made up their mind and thought it was a farce. Glad to hear glad to hear you're still hopeful for it - maybe we'll see some positive posts sometime soon. Since this whole covid/vaccine thing started, I don't recall reading anything about anyone who wished/hoped this vaccine didn't work. Again, where are you getting this from, or are you just assuming this is the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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