Bontz 279 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 So far ... I missed the Mountain segment stuff, but here's the trail stuff so far: SmartShox - sensors on the shocks doing 50 readings/second to adjust 900 ACE Turbo R ... 180 horsepower MachZ is back ... 900 Turbo R engine with a holeshot button Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bontz 279 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Another thread going .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
800renegaderider 187 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The Mach what a disappointment 20k too I’m sure they’ll sell none of these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A05GSHO 168 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Mach Z 0-60 in 2.4sec. That smart shock system sounds costly to repair, get an extended warranty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdsky 157 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Agree $20K US is too expensive for any sled but they will sell. Too many have been waiting a long time for one to materialize. The HP is likely 190 in reality so you are getting a factory tuned sled with a warranty but man that's still a lot of dollars sitting there when the snow isn't flying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cwhite138 64 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 15 hours ago, jdsky said: The HP is likely 190 in reality so you are getting a factory tuned sled Huh? you base this offf? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdsky 157 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Cwhite138 said: Huh? you base this offf? Years of reporting a conservative number on the spec sheets that is proven to be so by the aftermarket dyno's. Specific to the 900T it launched the first year with a spec sheet number of 155HP. Every tuner on the planet had it on a dyno to begin creating their tunes and everyone of them was at or just above 160HP. The sled also runs side by side with "165HP" two strokes so it has to be right at or near the same output just not on the spec sheets. Second season of the 900T release. Spec sheet suddenly drops to 150HP. Many questions about what was changed or why. Tuners say it's exactly the same factory setup, tune and still putting out 160HP. Now comes the R version with a spec sheet stated 180HP and there is no reason to not believe the sled is being conservatively rated. The Yammie is no different. Everyone knows it's also not a 180HP sled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cwhite138 64 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, jdsky said: Years of reporting a conservative number on the spec sheets that is proven to be so by the aftermarket dyno's. Specific to the 900T it launched the first year with a spec sheet number of 155HP. Every tuner on the planet had it on a dyno to begin creating their tunes and everyone of them was at or just above 160HP. The sled also runs side by side with "165HP" two strokes so it has to be right at or near the same output just not on the spec sheets. Second season of the 900T release. Spec sheet suddenly drops to 150HP. Many questions about what was changed or why. Tuners say it's exactly the same factory setup, tune and still putting out 160HP. Now comes the R version with a spec sheet stated 180HP and there is no reason to not believe the sled is being conservatively rated. The Yammie is no different. Everyone knows it's also not a 180HP sled. Fair enough. over deliver under promise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Icecube 58 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, jdsky said: Years of reporting a conservative number on the spec sheets that is proven to be so by the aftermarket dyno's. Specific to the 900T it launched the first year with a spec sheet number of 155HP. Every tuner on the planet had it on a dyno to begin creating their tunes and everyone of them was at or just above 160HP. The sled also runs side by side with "165HP" two strokes so it has to be right at or near the same output just not on the spec sheets. Second season of the 900T release. Spec sheet suddenly drops to 150HP. Many questions about what was changed or why. Tuners say it's exactly the same factory setup, tune and still putting out 160HP. Now comes the R version with a spec sheet stated 180HP and there is no reason to not believe the sled is being conservatively rated. The Yammie is no different. Everyone knows it's also not a 180HP sled. Maybe easier and cheaper for getting an insurance policy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doo900t 18 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 There is no way I'm spending the money they want for the Mach Z. They will be getting list price for them and my dealer has already sold a few. I ordered the X pkg for 5000 dollars less and it comes with the same engine and clutching with a more trail friendly suspension set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bontz 279 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 14 minutes ago, Doo900t said: There is no way I'm spending the money they want for the Mach Z. They will be getting list price for them and my dealer has already sold a few. I ordered the X pkg for 5000 dollars less and it comes with the same engine and clutching with a more trail friendly suspension set up. Agreed ... 1000000% With the Mach, all you're getting is "Launch Control" and somewhat of a lowered suspension, right? SkiDoo is profiting off of nostalgia and supposedly a limited, one year offer, with the Mach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doo900t 18 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Bontz said: Agreed ... 1000000% With the Mach, all you're getting is "Launch Control" and somewhat of a lowered suspension, right? SkiDoo is profiting off of nostalgia and supposedly a limited, one year offer, with the Mach. Oh don't forget the smart shocks and useless gauge. Just more crap to break as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 5,266 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just ordered mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdsky 157 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, Doo900t said: There is no way I'm spending the money they want for the Mach Z. They will be getting list price for them and my dealer has already sold a few. I ordered the X pkg for 5000 dollars less and it comes with the same engine and clutching with a more trail friendly suspension set up. Everyone is so focused on the list price of the Mach Z that the fact that an XRS with the Turbo R motor, active suspension and upgraded gauge and track option stickers for $19,400. My 2020 with 150HP, stock gauge and no Rmotion X or RAS X suspension listed for $16,500 and I would not be willing to drop another $3K for the 2022 with the upgrades. Now the X model with 30HP more (which I can pickup with a cheap tune) and suspension upgrades but no KYB Pro's lists for the same price. I think BRP has taken the list prices a bit too far even with the high demand for sleds, unless they know that manufacturing shortages will be a massive problem again this year and will only be able to ship a limited number of units. Spring Check deadlines are also a month early for some models and at least two weeks earlier for the XRS models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldslowsledder 359 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Just ordered mine. Where did you buy it from if I may ask, if your serious, hard to tell on this site sometimes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doo900t 18 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/17/2021 at 5:01 PM, jdsky said: Agree $20K US is too expensive for any sled but they will sell. Too many have been waiting a long time for one to materialize. The HP is likely 190 in reality so you are getting a factory tuned sled with a warranty but man that's still a lot of dollars sitting there when the snow isn't flying. 195-205 stk 17.9 lbs of boost new belt guard ,intercooler ,drive clutch .weights ,intake,exhaust/muffler .It's the real deal . This is what I was told by a Doo insider. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 5,266 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, oldslowsledder said: Where did you buy it from if I may ask, if your serious, hard to tell on this site sometimes Northland Rec. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldslowsledder 359 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Northland Rec. Excellent, Congratulations!! Did you shop around at all, trade in? Sorry for being nosey but considering one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticCrusher 5,266 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, oldslowsledder said: Excellent, Congratulations!! Did you shop around at all, trade in? Sorry for being nosey but considering one No I didn't. I bought my 2020 Renegade XRS from them after getting a recommendation, no trades. Gonna sell the Cat XF8000 and Poo Rush 600, so it will leave me with the 2020 Doo and 2019 Poo as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doo900t 18 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Doo900t said: 195-205 stk 17.9 lbs of boost new belt guard ,intercooler ,drive clutch .weights ,intake,exhaust/muffler .It's the real deal . This is what I was told by a Doo insider. Oh and I forgot it also comes with larger fuel injectors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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