racer254 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Why is this ok? Any dems care to comment? Biden voters? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/biden-kills-pipelines-at-home-but-promotes-them-for-the-taliban On his first day in office, President Biden canceled permits for the Keystone XL pipeline. Environmentalists and anti-fossil fuel activists should not have applauded his move. After all, Canada will not stop extracting oil from the tar sands of northern Alberta. Instead, it will simply export oil over existing pipelines or to the Pacific Ocean, where the damage from a potential spill would be harder to address. Biden’s cancellation cost jobs and pushes Canada toward greater economic cooperation with China. It also shakes confidence in U.S. business. Who would invest in the country if any future administration can simply renege on deals with the stroke of a pen? Especially, that is, when the investments involved here reach into the billions of dollars? Biden’s move was both political theater and an indulgence of his liberal base. But his hypocrisy was stunning even for a politician who has spent a half-century in Washington. Consider that while the Biden administration is killing a pipeline from which the public could benefit, Biden is promoting a pipeline to enrich both one of the world’s worst dictatorships and a group responsible for thousands of U.S. deaths. The government has apparently brokered a meeting between the Turkmenistan government and the Taliban for a trans-Afghanistan pipeline to bring Turkmen gas across Afghanistan and Pakistan to India. If this scheme sounds familiar, it should: It was the same deal that now-Special Envoy Zalmay Khalilzad sought to make with the Taliban in the years before the Sept. 11 terror attacks when he was a consultant for the Unocal Corporation. Khalilzad’s scheme was bad policy two decades ago, and it is even worse now. Put aside environmental arguments and consider profit. Freedom House’s latest Freedom in the World report ranks Turkmenistan as among the world’s worst offenders, below even North Korea in terms of freedom and civil liberties. To promote the export of Turkmen gas is to entrench its regime even further. Part of the deal is then paying the Taliban protection money or transit fees for the pipeline transiting Afghan territory. Not only would this undermine the elected Afghanistan government even further, but it would also reward the Taliban for insurgency to the tune of tens of millions of dollars each month. Who needs Russian bounties on U.S. soldiers when the State Department has crafted a scheme to reward the Taliban beyond their wildest dreams? One issue here is Khalilzad's penchant for using diplomacy as a stepping stone to cut side deals. But the other issue is U.S. strategic interests. Perhaps a misunderstanding of the Taliban agenda was an excuse 20 years ago. It should not be one now. If the Biden administration says no to pipeline jobs in the Midwest, it should not then turn around and help enrich the Taliban to ship Turkmen gas to the Indian Ocean. It is time for Secretary of State Antony Blinken to call his envoy, end this hypocrisy, and to stop coddling some of the world’s most anti-American movements. Edited February 15, 2021 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 You know the difference between oil and gas right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: You know the difference between oil and gas right? You know the difference between a corrupt, anti American gov't and one that isn't? 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 Post #2 by guess who 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mainecat said: You know the difference between oil and gas right? Wait.....some fossil fuels are good now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mainecat said: You know the difference between oil and gas right? This is your defense of biden's actions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Highmark said: Wait.....some fossil fuels are good now? Natural gas is clean energy you clowns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Natural gas is clean energy you clowns. No it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted February 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Natural gas is clean energy you clowns. Tell that to the retards in Massachusetts, they want to eliminate it because of carbon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Lots of butthurt over this pipeline thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Lots of butthurt over this pipeline thing. Some people care about the environment and some dont.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, BOHICA said: Some people care about the environment and some dont.... Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Oh. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Natural gas is clean energy you clowns. Cleaner you moron. Still releases CO2 when burned. Be honest did you think burning NG releases no CO2? Carbon Dioxide Emissions Coefficients by Fuel Pounds CO2 Kilograms CO2 Pounds CO2 Kilograms CO2 Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Factors: Per Unit of Volume or Mass Volume or Mass Million Btu Million Btu For homes and businesses Propane 12.70/gallon 5.76/gallon 139.05 63.07 Butane 14.80/gallon 6.71/gallon 143.20 64.95 Butane/Propane Mix 13.70/gallon 6.21/gallon 141.12 64.01 Home Heating and Diesel Fuel (Distillate) 22.40/gallon 10.16/gallon 161.30 73.16 Kerosene 21.50/gallon 9.75/gallon 159.40 72.30 Coal (All types) 4,631.50/short ton 2,100.82/short ton 210.20 95.35 Natural Gas 117.10/thousand cubic feet 53.12/thousand cubic feet 117.00 53.07 Gasoline 19.60/gallon 8.89/gallon 157.20 71.30 Residual Heating Fuel (Businesses only) 26.00/gallon 11.79/gallon 173.70 78.79 Other transportation fuels Jet Fuel 21.10/gallon 9.57/gallon 156.30 70.90 Aviation Gas 18.40/gallon 8.35/gallon 152.60 69.20 Industrial fuels and others not listed above Flared natural gas 120.70/thousand cubic feet 54.75/thousand cubic feet 120.60 54.70 Petroleum coke 32.40/gallon 14.70/gallon 225.10 102.10 Other petroleum & miscellaneous 22.09/gallon 10.02/gallon 160.10 72.62 Nonfuel uses Asphalt and Road Oil 26.34/gallon 11.95/gallon 166.70 75.61 Lubricants 23.62/gallon 10.72/gallon 163.60 74.21 Petrochemical Feedstocks 24.74/gallon 11.22/gallon 156.60 71.03 Special Naphthas (solvents) 20.05/gallon 9.10/gallon 160.50 72.80 Waxes 21.11/gallon 9.57/gallon 160.10 72.62 Coal by type Anthracite 5,685.00/short ton 2,578.68/short ton 228.60 103.70 Bituminous 4,931.30/short ton 2,236.80/short ton 205.70 93.30 Subbituminous 3,715.90/short ton 1,685.51/short ton 214.30 97.20 Lignite 2,791.60/short ton 1,266.25/short ton 215.40 97.70 Coke 6,239.68/short ton 2,830.27/short ton 251.60 114.12 Other fuels Geothermal (average all generation) NA NA 16.99 7.71 Municipal Solid Waste 5,771.00/short ton 2,617.68/short ton 91.90 41.69 Tire-derived fuel 6,160.00/short ton 2,794.13/short ton 189.54 85.97 Waste oil 924.0/barrel 419.12/barrel 210.00 95.25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Bring back coal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Jesus. MC just getting rag dolled again. And Spinner tries to come to the rescue but, as usual, fails to bring the proper intellect to do so. Oh well. que sera sera 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Jesus. MC just getting rag dolled again. And Spinner tries to come to the rescue but, as usual, fails to bring the proper intellect to do so. Oh well. que sera sera Trump is being cancelled. Fun as a barrel of monkeys to watch unfold. I really though things would be boring post trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Trump is being cancelled. Fun as a barrel of monkeys to watch unfold. I really though things would be boring post trump. LOL....huh? TDS HAS YOU!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Trump is being cancelled. Fun as a barrel of monkeys to watch unfold. I really though things would be boring post trump. This is fun for you but you hated the keys.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave said: This is fun for you but you hated the keys.... He's a fun guy! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: He's a fun guy! As much fun as nailing a 6 inch spike through your cock kind of fun!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Dave said: As much fun as nailing a 6 inch spike through your cock kind of fun!!!! Even that sounds more fun and exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Trump is being cancelled. Fun as a barrel of monkeys to watch unfold. I really though things would be boring post trump. Congrats... you got the first Trump post in this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave said: This is fun for you but you hated the keys.... I loved the Keys. Weather was fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: I loved the Keys. Weather was fantastic. Oh the story changes.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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