ArcticCrusher Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well said...if not for Covid 19 they would still be alive and a funeral director isn’t a doctor but apparently that is racers “friend in the know”🤣🤣 Just how many family members receive the official death certificate from the funeral director? I'm also pretty sure the family knows the real cause with underlying conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Lots of places taking the "precautions" and still have rising rates. In fact a much higher percentage of positive tests are from people who say they constantly wear masks. No stopping this even with a vaccine. Needs to run its course and we can't ruin the economy and society in general over it. Fact is it could be with us year after year now just like the flu. Get yourself as healthy as you can. people aren’t dying of covid period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Mask clearly make this worse. Wash your hands and stop touching your face. That's the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well said...if not for Covid 19 they would still be alive and a funeral director isn’t a doctor but apparently that is racers “friend in the know”🤣🤣 This is the mentality of some here. Who sees more dead bodies and causes of death, a funeral director or a doctor? LOL Yeah, you are something special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: It’s pretty clear the masks are making it worse. Multiple studies show 70 to 80% of the participants who wore masks all the time got covid while 2% of the participants who didn’t wear them got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Just how many family members receive the official death certificate from the funeral director? I'm also pretty sure the family knows the real cause with underlying conditions. That’s fine but the mortician doesn’t determine cause of death and if someone dies that would otherwise be alive if not for Covid than how would you record it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: This is the mentality of some here. Who sees more dead bodies and causes of death, a funeral director or a doctor? LOL Yeah, you are something special. No shit they see a lot of dead bodies but they don’t determine cause of death so you must be saying that doctors are lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: It’s pretty clear the masks are making it worse. Multiple studies show 70 to 80% of the participants who wore masks all the time got covid while 2% of the participants who didn’t wear them got it the countries with the least issues are asian where masks are not a big deal just normal street wear. Our mask wearing is about as effective as a screen door at stopping things, look at half the people "wearing" masks with their nose out or it around their chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: That’s fine but the mortician doesn’t determine cause of death and if someone dies that would otherwise be alive if not for Covid than how would you record it? I'm sure if a funeral director sees covid he starts pressing the family to find out what the 'real' cause of death is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: the countries with the least issues are asian where masks are not a big deal just normal street wear. Our mask wearing is about as effective as a screen door at stopping things, look at half the people "wearing" masks with their nose out or it around their chin. He starts 5 thread a day about Covid being overblown and fake...it’s weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, frenchy said: I'm sure if a funeral director sees covid he starts pressing the family to find out what the 'real' cause of death is. Well sure...their main goal is to get to the bottom of things!! 🤣🤣🤣 Grieving families need to be grilled and questioned!! Edited October 28, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No shit they see a lot of dead bodies but they don’t determine cause of death so you must be saying that doctors are lying. Oh look, you misunderstood the issue again. No one is lying, if they test positive for covid, then they are labeled that way. Comprehension of the thread dipshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: He starts 5 thread a day about Covid being overblown and fake...it’s weird. I agree with it being overblown but to say it's because of mask wearing is just plain stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, racer254 said: Oh look, you misunderstood the issue again. No one is lying, if they test positive for covid, then they are labeled that way. Comprehension of the thread dipshit. I didn’t misunderstand anything...so your source in the funeral him can look at a body labeled as a Covid death and tell different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: I didn’t misunderstand anything...so your source in the funeral him can look at a body labeled as a Covid death and tell different? Do you have any idea the process from death to funeral? You think anyone is lying? Stop trying to deflect and defend and go get some facts, stop with the media rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Fact is the average fatality associated with COVID has on average 2.6 of the underlying preexisting conditions. These are extremely unhealthy people. The one person who passed away out of the dozens and dozens I know couldn't walk to the car from the house without oxygen. A chest cold could have killed her. Edited October 28, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: Do you have any idea the process from death to funeral? You think anyone is lying? Stop trying to deflect and defend and go get some facts, stop with the media rhetoric. I’m not deflecting anything...you said all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Fact is the average fatality associated with COVID has on average 2.6 of the underlying preexisting conditions. These are extremely unhealthy people. The one person who passed away out of the dozens and dozens I know couldn't walk to the car from the house without oxygen. A chest cold could have killed her. many pre-existing conditions manifest themselves over years due to lack of access to healthcare. Lots of conditions that can be treated very easily if caught early enough but progressively become worse over time. It's one of the main reasons the US's numbers are so bad - because there are so many that literally have no access to health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 Funeral directors are responsible for getting the death certificate completed. In general, their duties are to: + Complete, or have completed, all items on the death certificate. + Obtain the cause-of-death information and certification statement from the attending physician or medical examiner or coroner. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/hb_fun.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I’m not deflecting anything...you said all of this. Wrong again, you assumed someone was lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: You certainly would know about that. He is the #1 troll here MC trolling the trolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, frenchy said: many pre-existing conditions manifest themselves over years due to lack of access to healthcare. Lots of conditions that can be treated very easily if caught early enough but progressively become worse over time. It's one of the main reasons the US's numbers are so bad - because there are so many that literally have no access to health care. Yeah they cannot occur at all or develop much slower by simply taking care of oneself. Does a person really need a doctor to tell someone they are fat and heading towards severe medical issues if they don't eat better and exercise? Oh and by the way our mortality rate is half of what some UHC countries are when it comes to observed case fatality rate. The fact that we have a high infection rate has just as much to do with how American's live their life than whether or not our HC is run by the govt. In fact Canada's observed case fatality rate is MUCH higher than ours. What people have to wait in line to get treated there? https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality Edited October 28, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, frenchy said: many pre-existing conditions manifest themselves over years due to lack of access to healthcare. Lots of conditions that can be treated very easily if caught early enough but progressively become worse over time. It's one of the main reasons the US's numbers are so bad - because there are so many that literally have no access to health care. One of my friends dad passed with Covid as the official cause of death. Now the man was 82 and just two years earlier he was cycling almost daily about 30 km. Now I saw him last about a year before he died and he could barely walk and if I ask my friend he will tell you he had no pre-existing condition. Yah, sure. Anyways, take vit D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yeah they cannot occur at all or develop much slower by simply taking care of oneself. Does a person really need a doctor to tell someone they are fat and heading towards severe medical issues if they don't eat better and exercise? Oh and by the way our mortality rate is half of what some UHC countries are when it comes to observed case fatality rate. The fact that we have a high infection rate has just as much to do with how American's live their life than whether or not our HC is run by the govt. In fact Canada's observed case fatality rate is MUCH higher than ours. What people have to wait in line to get treated there? https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality we haven't tested nearly as many people as you guys have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 28, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, frenchy said: we haven't tested nearly as many people as you guys have. Yeah Trump did great in getting tests out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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