20 Dead in Gay Club Shooting.....

[Elkhorn]

5 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

 

No, it's truth fail rider , you have no clue about Christianity .

now tell us what Sharia law says about gays and how they deal with them in Islamic countries. 

[SnowRider]

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to-know-about-the-bible/ 

What the Quran-bashers Don’t Want You to Know About the Bible

This article is part 4 of LoonWatch’s Understanding Jihad Series. Please read my “disclaimer”, which explains my intentions behind writing this article: The Understanding Jihad Series: Is Islam More Likely Than Other Religions to Encourage Violence?

What the Quran-bashers don’t want you to know is that the Bible is far more violent than the Quran.  In fact, the Bible–unlike the Quran–glorifies genocide; we’ve documented some of these genocide-glorifying passages in our earlier articles: see part 1, part 2, and part 3.

The anti-Muslim bigots–such as the extremist Jewish Zionist Pamela Geller and the fervent, zealous Catholic polemicist Robert Spencer—especially don’t want you to know about the Biblical passages regarding King Saul.  The reason they don’t want you to read these passages is that it would make the Islamic literature look quite tame by comparison, and well, that wouldn’t be too good for the anti-Muslim business, now would it?

It is of course getting tedious, redundant, and a bit boring to document all the God-sanctioned genocides of the Bible; there are too many of them, so they seem to mesh together.  Having said that, Saul’s genocide of the Amalekites warrants special attention, so it would behoove our readers to suffer through one last article on this topic.   It should be noted, however, that our collection of violent Biblical verses is non-exhaustive, limited only by our own boredom.

So, who was Saul?  He was the first king of the United Kingdom of Israel, divinely appointed to this position by the Jewish prophet Samuel.  His first task as king was to ethnically cleanse the land of the Amalekite peoples:

1 Samuel 15:1 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people, over Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord.

15:2 This is what the Almighty Lord says: ‘I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and utterly destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'”

Notice that it was God Himself who ordered Saul to slaughter the Amalekites.  And so King Saul led the Israelites in war against the Amalekites.  Per God’s directives, Saul “put to death men and women, children and infants.”  He killed every human being with the lone exception of the Amalekite king; he also spared some animals.  By sparing King Agag’s life, Saul failed to complete the mitzvah (the religious obligation) of genocide–something which was completely unacceptable to the God of the Bible:

15:7 Saul attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, to the east of Egypt.

15:8 He took Agag, king of the Amalekites, alive, and all his people he utterly destroyed with the sword.

15:9 But Saul and the army spared [King] Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves and lambs—everything that was good. These they were unwilling to destroy completely, but everything that was despised and weak they totally destroyed.

15:10 Then the word of the Lord came to Samuel:

15:11 “I am grieved that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions.” Samuel was troubled, and he cried out to the Lord all that night.

Saul tried to defend himself, but God stripped him of his kingship:

15:13 When Samuel reached him, Saul said, “The Lord bless you! I have carried out the Lord’s instructions.”

15:14 But Samuel said, “What then is this bleating of sheep in my ears? What is this lowing of cattle that I hear?”

15:15 Saul answered, “The soldiers brought them from the Amalekites; they spared the best of the sheep and cattle to sacrifice to the Lord your God, but we totally destroyed the rest.”

15:16 “Stop!” Samuel said to Saul. “Let me tell you what the Lord said to me last night.”

“Tell me,” Saul replied.

15:17 Samuel said, “Although you were once small in your own eyes, did you not become the head of the tribes of Israel? The Lord anointed you king over Israel.

15:18 And he [the Lord] sent you on a mission, saying, ‘Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.’

15:19 Why did you not obey the Lord? Why did you pounce on the plunder and do evil in the eyes of the Lord?”

15:20 “But I did obey the Lord,” Saul said. “I went on the mission the Lord assigned me. I completely destroyed the Amalekites and brought back Agag, their king.

15:21 The soldiers took sheep and cattle from the plunder, the best of what was devoted to God, in order to sacrifice them to the Lord your God at Gilgal.”

15:22 But Samuel replied: “Does the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the Lord? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams.

15:23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you as king.”

15:24 Then Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned. I violated the Lord’s command and your instructions. I was afraid of the people and so I gave in to them.

15:25 Now I beg you, forgive my sin and come back with me, so that I may worship the Lord.”

15:26 But Samuel said to him, “I will not go back with you. You have rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord has rejected you as king over Israel!”

Saul repeatedly repented for his “failure”:

15:30 Saul replied, “I have sinned. But please honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel; come back with me, so that I may worship the Lord your God.”

And God was sad that He had chosen such a sissy to be king:

15:35 The Lord repented that He had made Saul king over Israel.

Saul was stripped of his kingship, which was given to David–who was frankly just much better at killing civilians.  In fact, all the Israelite chicks fawned over David for being a more proficient killer; all the girls wanted him and all the guys (including Saul himself) wanted to be him:

18:6 When the men were returning home after David had killed the Philistine, the women came out from all the towns of Israel to meet King Saul with singing and dancing, with joyful songs and with tambourines and lutes.

18:7 As they danced, they sang: “Saul has slain his thousands, and David his tens of thousands.” 

18:8 Saul was very angry; this refrain galled him. “They have credited David with tens of thousands,” he thought, “but me with only thousands. What more can he get but the kingdom?”

18:9 And from that time on Saul kept a jealous eye on David.

Certainly, killing thousands just doesn’t cut it.  The mass murderer field is just so saturated, that you really need to kill tens of thousands to be considered competitive for Heaven University.  No wonder Samuel felt like an absolute idiot for sending a sissy to do a man’s job; realizing this, he cleaned up Saul’s mess:

15:33 Samuel put Agag to death before the Lord at Gilgal.

King Agag was not the only one who was killed: God was so upset over the whole not killing everybody thing that He killed Saul and his three sons.  The prophet Samuel explained to Saul why this was his fate:

28:18 Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today.

[Using the emotive language of Pamela Geller, would this be a case of the mafioso Jewish god offing one of his goons for failing to carry out a hit–or in this case, a hit against thousands of people?]

According to the Jewish texts (as reproduced on p.76 of Vol.11 of The Jewish Encyclopedia), Saul had protested the commandment to “utterly destroy” the Amalekites, saying:

For one found slain the Torah requires a sin offering [Deuteronomy 21:1-9]; and here so many shall be slain.  If the old have sinned, why should the young suffer; and if men have been guilty, why should the cattle be destroyed?

 

What Saul didn’t realize was that obeying the Lord’s commandment–in this case to kill women and children–was more important than anything else.  The Bible explains the reason for Saul’s demise:

1 Chronicles 10:13 Saul died because he was unfaithful to the LORD.  He failed to obey the LORD’s command…

A well-renowned Biblical commentary explains:

Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord–in having spared the king of the Amalekites and taken the flocks of the people as spoils [1Sa 15:9],

Today, Jews and Christians revere David over Saul, emphasizing the fact that David was more obedient to God than Saul.  For example, ministry founder Tom Bushnell asks:

When faced with difficult decisions, should we act like King David or King Saul?

…King David and King Saul are as antithetical as any two people in the Bible. If we look at some of the defining moments in their lives, we see two men with drastically different outlooks on life.

When faced with a decision, Saul’s first thought was, “Is this pleasing to me?”

King David’s first thought usually was, “Is my choice pleasing to the Lord?”

Bushnell then gives this specific example to illustrate:

Saul was disobedient when he spared king Agag and the best of the livestock of the Amalekites. (Partial obedience is disobedience).

David was careful to follow the commands of the Lord, even during battle.

One can only imagine the reaction of the Islamophobes–Spencer, Geller, et al.–had the Quran glorified genocide in this way.  In fact, they can never cite verses in the Quran that promote, sanction, or justify genocide–because they simply do not exist.  Indeed, there are explicit statements of the Prophet Muhammad forbidding the killing of women and children.

So next time anti-Muslim bigots troll the net by copying and pasting a litany of Quranic quotes in order to bash Muslims, we encourage readers to link this article about Saul (as well as our earlier articles about Moses, Joshua, Samson, and David)  Reproducing these genocidal verses from the Bible is a good way to serve the Islamophobes a steaming hot platter of STFU, our absolute favorite dish.

Addendum I:

Perhaps the tone of voice in this article is a bit too aggressive, and as always with such topics I have my regrets.  Yet, in the spirit of International Judge a Koran Day, I think a healthy dose of STFU is necessary.  If you want to judge the Quran, then let’s also be sure to judge some Bible.  I’ll see your jihad and raise you a herem.

Edited June 12, 2016 by SnowRider

[Badger**]

19 minutes ago, Axys1 said:

That's is the old testiment it all changed after Jesus died. 

Again!!

[SnowRider]

[Badger**]

3 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

[SnowRider]

 

 

[Rod]

Omar wasn't muslim 

[oleroule]

assault weapons were involved?

[SnowRider]

Semantics....let's call them military style weapons.....  

America has a gun problem....and it's only a matter of time before meaningful legislation is passed.  

[Momorider]

Just now, SnowRider said:

Semantics....let's call them military style weapons.....  

America has a gun problem....and it's only a matter of time before meaningful legislation is passed.  

Your lying CUNT candidate couldn't do anything meaningful if her criminal life depended on it  

[Ebsell]

2 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Semantics....let's call them military style weapons.....  

America has a gun problem....and it's only a matter of time before meaningful legislation is passed.  

It ain't a gun problem it's a politically correct problem. This guy was looked at twice for possible extremist beliefs and because of the way people think was still allowed to buy a firearm.   To me that's fucked up 

[oleroule]

7 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Semantics....let's call them military style weapons.....  

America has a gun problem....and it's only a matter of time before meaningful legislation is passed.  

revolvers, bolt action, semi-auto, ....not 'military'?

america has a problem but it's not guns...it's evil.

for some reason, libs won't define evil.

Edited June 12, 2016 by oleroule

[Capt.Storm]

6 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Semantics....let's call them military style weapons.....  

America has a gun problem....and it's only a matter of time before meaningful legislation is passed.  

America has a people problem.

[Badger**]

Okay I hate posting using my phone.

 

Islam is still stuck in the old testament where as Christian law changed when Jesus died and yes many Christians were barbaric after he died but they were way off on the teachings of Jesus. Jesus said only him and father can judge someones actions where as in Islam there followers can do the judging. The problem with Islam and Sahara law is they can lie to further their cause so at this point you can never know who the bad ones are from the good ones. Do I hate Muslims?? No but I do not trust them.. and our government has been doing a great job at picking out the follower of the true Islam and the followers of Sahara law. Now where do you wan't your family to stand next to a Christian or a Muslim??     

Edited June 12, 2016 by Badger**

[Badger**]

But I do like this. 

[Capt.Storm]

SR,

These muslims are killing people all over the world in cold blood.

They don't care what religion you are as long as your not muslim- we are all potential targets.

Edited June 12, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[BOHICA]

I went to the range yesterday.  Couple hundred rounds fired.  Nobody got hurt.  Few sheriff deputies practicing a few lanes down.  Near the end they pulled out some fully auto stuff.  Kind think it isnt fair they are allowed to have toys but the general law abiding public cant cause the liberals get all in a tiffy and childish temper tantrums cause of muslims shooting shit up and they blame the muslims action on a semi auto squirrel gun rather then blaming the muslims or the crazed american behind the trigger break a the law.

[Capt.Storm]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

I went to the range yesterday.  Couple hundred rounds fired.  Nobody got hurt.  Few sheriff deputies practicing a few lanes down.  Near the end they pulled out some fully auto stuff.  Kind think it isnt fair they are allowed to have toys but the general law abiding public cant cause the liberals get all in a tiffy and childish temper tantrums cause of muslims shooting shit up and they blame the muslims action on a semi auto squirrel gun rather then blaming the muslims or the crazed american behind the trigger break a the law.

It's the only way they can sorta be PC I guess.

Outlaw guns -then only outlaws will have guns.

[XCR1250]

4 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

SR,

These muslims are killing people all over the world in cold blood.

They don't care what religion you are as long as your not muslim- we are all potential targets.

Muslim's kill other Muslim's every day.

[Capt.Storm]

2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Muslim's kill other Muslim's every day.

Yeah I thought about that after I posted. 

I worded that all wrong.

Edited June 12, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[BOHICA]

See the fucked up thing is this guy blasting hiv all over on the walls in this club would have always had access to guns.  He was a security guard and was licensed and had advance training.  Pretty much a version of law enforcement.  Any new gun legislation wouldnt have stopped this as law enforcement and security details are issued or expected to own these weapons as part of their job duty.  Much like a mechanic is required to have hand tools.  The only meaningful law that would have stopped this is to ban law enforcement/security guards from having any weapons.

Edited June 12, 2016 by BOHICA

[Capt.Storm]

3 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

See the fucked up thing is this guy blasting hiv all over on the walls

The fucked up thing is you saying that.

No wonder some people don't like gun owners.

[Dave]

15 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Muslim's kill other Muslim's every day.

Amercans kill other americans everyday...whats your point?

[BOHICA]

9 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

The fucked up thing is you saying that.

No wonder some people don't like gun owners.

20% of the gay population has hiv....  1 in 5 of all gay people.  50 dead and over 50 injuried.  Statistics say at least 20 killed or injured by bullets which disperses their blood into the enviroment and on others had hiv in it.  

Its just the truth is all not put in a politically correct way.  So dont get butt hurt over something not politically correct.  But that building was full of blood born deadly virus  last night while this was going on.

why you may ask???  Cause of the patrons lifestyle choices which i could care less how they choose to lead.

 

know 3 gay people who are friends of my wife.  2/3 of the 3 that i know of have hiv.

 

the only reason i care is not cause of the dead but the effects on me as a gun owner due to liberals over reaction.

Edited June 12, 2016 by BOHICA

[Capt.Storm]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

20% of the gay population has hiv....  1 in 5 of all gay people.  50 dead and over 50 injuried.  Statistics say at least 20 killed or injured by bullets which disperses their blood into the enviroment and on others had hiv in it.  

Its just the truth is all not put in a politically correct way.  So dont get butt hurt over something not politically correct.  But that build was full of blood born deadly virus  last night while this was going on.

 

know 3 gay people who are friends of my wife.  2/3 of the 3 that i know of have hiv.

Look you still don't have to bring that chit up when 50 of them just lost their lives and 50 more are in the hospital.

Just so you know I have always had the stance that gays are abnormal..that said no gay has ever gave me a reason to fear them.