Im4snow Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, spin_dry said: Extreme pain will be good for america. It’ll open some eyes. Yup, some of our greatest decades immediately followed the great depression. Hardship builds character! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Interesting article: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/09/unveiled-lenins-brilliant-plot-to-destroy-capitalism/280006/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: 6 figure loan? so 200k loan from mom and dad would make a person a success is what motofag is saying. Not likely, many would piss it away and hope for more never paying it back. The odd one would put it to work and make something out of it. yet those are the same ones that would be a success without the loan. it would just take a little longer. A friend of mine graduated Uni, maxed out as many cards as he could get and started a business that way, he is now retired with millions in assets. this guy was gonna make it no matter what, but would have been there sooner if his family was helping. you either want to be a success or you don't. My friends who came from wealth, not one of them advanced themselves beyond anyone else who started from squat. The ones who pushed the envelope did it cause they were driven. I don't know why some like to make excuses for their own shortcomings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 So, people who aren't billionaires just didn't want to be one hard enough? They somehow lacked the work ethic or character to gain that much wealth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: My friends who came from wealth, not one of them advanced themselves beyond anyone else who started from squat. The ones who pushed the envelope did it cause they were driven. I don't know why some like to make excuses for their own shortcomings. Drive and patience is key. wealth building is not an overnight thing and even those with modest lifetime incomes can do it and retire withoutconcerns about the low monthly pension the government provides. I am so tired of hearing about the poor seniors. those that are poor did it to themselves. how about all the money wasted on booze, lottery, casino, trips, smoking etc, got saved and invested. You spent it, now live in poverty and put your fucking hand away, I aint giving you shit. My MIL has worked a grand total of about one year in her shitty life. her current husband is not leving her with shit other than a 250k paid for house. She will get nothing from his pensions, they are alreadytaken. So she will get OAS and the suppliment for about 12k per year. She can suck it and I will not help her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: So, people who aren't billionaires just didn't want to be one hard enough? They somehow lacked the work ethic or character to gain that much wealth? reality check moron. Not very many will ever amass a billion net worth. Even fewer expect to or have that as a goal.being envious of those that do is a waste of time, Time you seem to waste a lot of. grow the fuck up retard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Give someone of low IQ 100 grand and see where they end up within a year the very most that you can do with a stupid, incompetent person is give them a comfortable amount of basic needs and that’s it. If you believe in Darwinism even that’s too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, ACE said: Give someone of low IQ 100 grand and see where they end up within a year the very most that you can do with a stupid, incompetent person is give them a comfortable amount of basic needs and that’s it. If you believe in Darwinism even that’s too much. That's called welfare. It's now a generational thing. 3 generations on welfare. They see no reason to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, awful knawful said: That's called welfare. It's now a generational thing. 3 generations on welfare. They see no reason to change. And that’s what’s causing people to fall behind. The game has changed but only because the people who are active in the game are often generationally becoming better players. And since around 1960 there’s those who not only stagnated but have regressed moto should spend some time in a communist country. This phenomenon persists there as well. Aggressive people find ways to improve their position where others are comfortable in squalor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Im4snow said: Yup, some of our greatest decades immediately followed the great depression. Hardship builds character! Absolutely. And an opportunity to hang the wealthy fucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ManOnManOral said: reality check moron. Not very many will ever amass a billion net worth. Even fewer expect to or have that as a goal.being envious of those that do is a waste of time, Time you seem to waste a lot of. grow the fuck up retard. I don't hate billionaires because I want to be them, I hate them because they shouldn't exist. Even the more intelligent amongst you can't form an argument in defense of capitalism without inserting a logical fallacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I don't hate billionaires because I want to be them, I hate them because they shouldn't exist. Even the more intelligent amongst you can't form an argument in defense of capitalism without inserting a logical fallacy. You literally just used a logical fallacy to defend your position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I don't hate billionaires because I want to be them, I hate them because they shouldn't exist. Even the more intelligent amongst you can't form an argument in defense of capitalism without inserting a logical fallacy. I like the fact that you can become rich and powerful rising from nothing. that is freedom baby. While I will never make I am happy for those that do. All the good things in life came from capitalism and the freedom to invent great things while the market rewards you for doing so. Communists think people will be creative by being told to be and living in poverty. Go fuck yourself, you are nothing but a disgruntled fucktard whom hates life and wants to drag others into your misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Absolutely. And an opportunity to hang the wealthy fucks. Someone is butthurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Someone is butthurt. these fuck heads would cry for their mommy if they lived in a shithole that did notsupply them with the modern comfort capitalism has given us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: these fuck heads would cry for their mommy if they lived in a shithole that did notsupply them with the modern comfort capitalism has given us. Marx said capitalism must fully mature before the transition to communism can begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Marx said capitalism must fully mature before the transition to communism can begin. i say you must fully take your head out of your ass before I bother with you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Sik birn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Marx said capitalism must fully mature before the transition to communism can begin. And Marx was a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Snake said: Die broke. Nah...I’m gonna get a union pension and some government cheese just like you. Quit pretending you did anything other than marry a 2nd income and take the easy way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 great thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: great thread My favourite part was moto using logical fallacies while telling others they’re using logical fallacies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: My favourite part was moto using logical fallacies while telling others they’re using logical fallacies The whole term "logical fallacies". He trotted out a couple new woke terms tonight. He's kind of on the leading edge of this wokeness thing......so recognize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Nah...I’m gonna get a union pension and some government cheese just like you. Quit pretending you did anything other than marry a 2nd income and take the easy way first income... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: The whole term "logical fallacies". He trotted out a couple new woke terms tonight. He's kind of on the leading edge of this wokeness thing......so recognize. Well understating logical fallacies is important to having a meaningful discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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