Global Temperatures Plunge. Icy Silence from Climate Alarmists

[Boered]

4 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Well apparently even Mennonite living is no good since they grow  livestock and travel by horse and buggy. 

Want to know what is really funny. Most of these shit heads that preach mmgw live in large cities. You know, those places that are completely covered in concrete and asphalt, where 3000 people live on one acre of land and all their shit goes into the water they drink from. MORONS. But hey, they have a small communal garden on the roof and recycle their plastic water bottles, and ride public transit so it is all good. It is those evil farmers fucking up this world.

[Momorider]

1 hour ago, Boered said:

Want to know what is really funny. Most of these shit heads that preach mmgw live in large cities. You know, those places that are completely covered in concrete and asphalt, where 3000 people live on one acre of land and all their shit goes into the water they drink from. MORONS. But hey, they have a small communal garden on the roof and recycle their plastic water bottles, and ride public transit so it is all good. It is those evil farmers fucking up this world.

 every hipster tree-hugging FUCK to the max  

[revkevsdi]

11 hours ago, Boered said:

Want to know what is really funny. Most of these shit heads that preach mmgw live in large cities. You know, those places that are completely covered in concrete and asphalt, where 3000 people live on one acre of land and all their shit goes into the water they drink from. MORONS. But hey, they have a small communal garden on the roof and recycle their plastic water bottles, and ride public transit so it is all good. It is those evil farmers fucking up this world.

WOW! How fucking stupid are you? Compare the footprint of someone who lives in an apartment in the city vs rural.

Try to use your tiny brain for a second. Living in an apartment with 2-3 walls share for heating or cooling. Dividing that 1,500 square feet of apartment over the number of floors is far better than a 1,500 square foot house with an  acre of land.

Really think about your argument you dumb fuck. Isn't 3,000 people sharing an acre better than 3,000 acres of farmland being used up for the same amount of people? 

actual stats are that the average lot size is about 1/4 acre. 750 acres would be used vs 1 acre for your example.

How many use cars in the city vs public transit? Food coming in, garbage going out has to be more efficient. 

 

 

 

 

[revkevsdi]

https://weather.com/news/news/breitbart-misleads-americans-climate-change

BTW for the rest of your Trump/Breitbart fans. 

[bussman]

40 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

WOW! How fucking stupid are you? Compare the footprint of someone who lives in an apartment in the city vs rural.

Try to use your tiny brain for a second. Living in an apartment with 2-3 walls share for heating or cooling. Dividing that 1,500 square feet of apartment over the number of floors is far better than a 1,500 square foot house with an  acre of land.

Really think about your argument you dumb fuck. Isn't 3,000 people sharing an acre better than 3,000 acres of farmland being used up for the same amount of people? 

actual stats are that the average lot size is about 1/4 acre. 750 acres would be used vs 1 acre for your example.

How many use cars in the city vs public transit? Food coming in, garbage going out has to be more efficient. 

 

 

 

 

[bussman]

40 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

https://weather.com/news/news/breitbart-misleads-americans-climate-change

BTW for the rest of your Trump/Breitbart fans. 

[Momorider]

Just now, bussman said:

I like MaineCUNTs gif better  

[bussman]

14 minutes ago, Momorider said:

I like MaineCUNTs gif better  

It's gonna be hard to top that one.

[Snoslinger]

so buss, considering you now have a clean slate on your gw stance, would you mind confirming what it is? apparently it's changed from before.

[bussman]

29 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

so buss, considering you now have a clean slate on your gw stance, would you mind confirming what it is? apparently it's changed from before.

You have no interest in actual discussion about it so I have no interest in wasting my time with you. 

[Skidooski]

Alls is knows is Global Cooling finally decided to show up this year. Powder everywhere and lake is covered! 

[Boered]

4 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

WOW! How fucking stupid are you? Compare the footprint of someone who lives in an apartment in the city vs rural.

Try to use your tiny brain for a second. Living in an apartment with 2-3 walls share for heating or cooling. Dividing that 1,500 square feet of apartment over the number of floors is far better than a 1,500 square foot house with an  acre of land.

Really think about your argument you dumb fuck. Isn't 3,000 people sharing an acre better than 3,000 acres of farmland being used up for the same amount of people? 

actual stats are that the average lot size is about 1/4 acre. 750 acres would be used vs 1 acre for your example.

How many use cars in the city vs public transit? Food coming in, garbage going out has to be more efficient. 

 

 

 

 

Look at the precious snowflake, so angry. The morons living in those high rises are completely dependant upon farmers to feed them. yet they literally bite the hand  that feeds. Now go take a big dump, flush it into the lake you get your water from and smile to yourself, knowing that you have made a difference today by sharing the warmth in you apartment through the wall with the neighbor you do not even talk to on the elevator.

[Snoslinger]

6 hours ago, bussman said:

You have no interest in actual discussion about it so I have no interest in wasting my time with you. 

i;ve discussed it plenty of times, including with you. that's how i remember your changing stances on it. in one discussion you'll be saying man does an effect on GW but there's nothing we can do about it, and the next you're laughing at data presented by a leftie showing man's influence on it. you can't have both dude. you seem to base your thoughts on a topic by what audience is participating. so here's your chance to "clear the air" so we're all aware.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2016 by Snoslinger

[BOHICA]

Bison in the US numbered similar numbers to cattle before white man.....  LB for LB.  Maybe Bison flatulence was less CO2ish causing less global warming back then so maybe we could switch to bison instead of cattle like indiains use to raise and eat. 

Just think how many trees and greens could grow in large urban areas sequestering carbon instead of releasing massive amounts of it in the atmosphere like they due now.

Edited December 11, 2016 by BOHICA

[02sled]

I think every urban flat roof should become a rooftop vegetable garden to help the environment and the tenants should all be required to participate in its care. 

[Catman]

2 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Bison in the US numbered similar numbers to cattle before white man.....  LB for LB.  Maybe Bison flatulence was less CO2ish causing less global warming back then so maybe we could switch to bison instead of cattle like indiains use to raise and eat. 

Just think how many trees and greens could grow in large urban areas sequestering carbon instead of releasing massive amounts of it in the atmosphere like they due now.

We'll,  not exactly.  there are almost 100m cattle, dairy and beef. There were estimated to be 20-30m bison.  500k  now.  Which is an issue in and of itself.

That is just in the usa. There are over 1.6b cattle world wide, mostly in places that never had cows of any kind prior to.

Then you have the canary in the coal mine; the land used not just for grazing but for feeding the animals.  total livestock feed land represents 1/3 of all land used for livestock. The water used to feed livestock of course, which I pointed out earlier. 

Roughly 3% of the worlds land mass is urbabized, which represents about 1/2 of the wold population.  This is increasing of course.  It presents challenges due to the urban heat island effect, food distribution and housing but urbanization has a minimal impact on the climate in comparison to fossil fuel use, animal agriculture, etc.

http://www.fao.org/Newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html

Edited December 12, 2016 by Catman

[Catman]

15 minutes ago, 02sled said:

I think every urban flat roof should become a rooftop vegetable garden to help the environment and the tenants should all be required to participate in its care. 

Only reasonably intelligent thing you've said in his thread.  Something that is occurring on a small scale all over the world.  Solar panels would probably be better in most places.

[BOHICA]

13 minutes ago, Catman said:

We'll,  not exactly.  there are almost 100m cattle, dairy and beef. There were estimated to be 20-30m bison.  500k  now.  Which is an issue in and of itself.

That is just in the usa. There are over 1.6b cattle world wide, mostly in places that never had cows of any kind prior to.

Then you have the canary in the coal mine; the land used not just for grazing but for feeding the animals.  total livestock feed land represents 1/3 of all land used for livestock. The water used to feed livestock of course, which I pointed out earlier. 

Roughly 3% of the worlds land mass is urbabized, which represents about 1/2 of the wold population.  This is increasing of course.  It presents challenges due to the urban heat island effect, food distribution and housing but urbanization has a minimal impact on the climate in comparison to fossil fuel use, animal agriculture, etc.

Ive read 50-75 million bison farting in the us before whiteman and bison are substantial larger increasing there carbon footprint.  Good thing about all the cattle drinking water is it doesnt make it to the ocean increasing water levels.  Plus large metropolis super heat the atmosphere due to glass and concrete and asphalt.  Plus they slow release there heat during the evenings.  Always warmer in a large city then out side of them.  Releasing massive amounts of earth atmosphere warming emissions.

see the ground under cows feet will still freeze and frost will go in the ground.  That ground under the skyscraper and is surrounding area of streets doesnt freeze and doesnt have vegetation anywhere on it.

 If the earth could go to a dermatologist large metropolis would be seen as a terminal cancer and the cow and rancher would be a pimple.  Large metropolis are killing this planet

Edited December 12, 2016 by BOHICA

[Catman]

5 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Ive read 50-75 million bison farting in the us before whiteman and bison are substantial larger increasing there carbon footprint.  Good thing about all the cattle drinking water is it doesnt make it to the ocean increasing water levels.  Plus large metropolis super heat the atmosphere due to glass and concrete and asphalt.  Plus they slow release there heat during the evenings.  Always warmer in a large city then out side of them.  Releasing massive amounts of earth atmosphere warming emissions.

see the ground under cows feet will still freeze and frost will go in the ground.  That ground under the skyscraper and is surrounding area of streets doesnt freeze and doesnt have vegetation anywhere on it.

 If the earth could go to a dermatologist large metropolis would be seen as a terminal cancer and the cow and rancher would be a pimple.  Large metropolis are killing this planet

Lol  sure, if you say so.  total bullshit

[Sleepr2]

21 minutes ago, Catman said:

Only reasonably intelligent thing you've said in his thread.  Something that is occurring on a small scale all over the world.  Solar panels would probably be better in most places.

LOL!

 

[BOHICA]

1 acre of city isnt warmer through the night then an acre of land with 250 lb cow at night on it?

[BOHICA]

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Edited December 12, 2016 by BOHICA

[Catman]

4 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

1 acre of city isnt warmer through the night then an acre of land with 250 lb cow at night on it?

Over 25% of the earth's non ice covered land mass is used by animal agriculture. I already posted that 3% is urbanized.

Urbanization is so far fown on the list of issues, not to mention totally impossible to restrict.  Diet/animal agriculture and the use of fossil fuels 100% able to change.  

http://www.slideshare.net/ciatdapa/livestock-and-resource-use-in-the-context-of-climate-change

Edited December 12, 2016 by Catman

[BOHICA]

2 minutes ago, Catman said:

Over 25% of the earth's non ice covered land mass is used by animal agriculture. I already posted that 3% is urbanized.

Urbanization is so far fown on the list of issues, not to mention totally impossible to restrict.  Diet/animal agriculture and the use of fossil fuels 100% able to change.  

http://www.slideshare.net/ciatdapa/livestock-and-resource-use-in-the-context-of-climate-change

Most of the land mass is covered by water that urban cities pollute from waste and polution created by big cities.  Not by cows...  Your 25 percent figure is bullshit cause all the cows dont 100 percent inhabit every square inch of an acre 100% of the time. A city building, streets, inhabit and cover every square inch of an acre permsnently covering that acre in materials that constantly warm the atmosphere around.  Just pumping water to the roof to water some carrots uses more energy then it is benefitting climate.  Chances are the carrot garden on the roof is going to be hotter then if that carrot garden wason the ground cause even more evaporation.  Also that elevator that you use to transport that bag of miracle grow flower and garden soil will use more electricity then you benefit from having the roof top garden.  

Grass and vegetation is constantly growing sequestering carbon on a ranch. You prolly could gather every cow in the US and fit them all within the borders of rhode island.

[Catman]

21 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Most of the land mass is covered by water that urban cities pollute from waste and polution created by big cities.  Not by cows...  Your 25 percent figure is bullshit cause all the cows dont 100 percent inhabit every square inch of an acre 100% of the time. A city building, streets, inhabit and cover every square inch of an acre permsnently covering that acre in materials that constantly warm the atmosphere around.  Just pumping water to the roof to water some carrots uses more energy then it is benefitting climate.  Chances are the carrot garden on the roof is going to be hotter then if that carrot garden wason the ground cause even more evaporation.  Also that elevator that you use to transport that bag of miracle grow flower and garden soil will use more electricity then you benefit from having the roof top garden.  

Grass and vegetation is constantly growing sequestering carbon on a ranch. You prolly could gather every cow in the US and fit them all within the borders of rhode island.

Fuck me.  I believe what you're tring to refer to is population density. Which is an important issue but totally unrelated.

 Let me reiterate this fact: 1/3 of all farmland is used to grow crops for livestcock. Then there is grazing land.  these factors ts are well documented.  I already posted a link. Unlike you I'm not making things up, I'm referring to documented well reviewed, accurate research.

There is really only 1 argument you or any other denier has is science in general is some kind of illuminati.

http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/ditcted2012d3_en.pdf

 

https://goo.gl/images/J88ppE

Edited December 12, 2016 by Catman