Global Temperatures Plunge. Icy Silence from Climate Alarmists

[Dave]

2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Everything is a balance.  A pure vegetarian diet is not good, just as a pure meat diet isn't as well.  People do not eat lean beef cause it costs a lot.

Id agree if the said person was a vegan....an vegetarian is a little different.

[Boered]

56 minutes ago, Catman said:

You don't know when to quit.

Your friends friend is dumb, you can be a vegetarian and be as healthy or healthy than a beef eater.

I digress I never even mentioned vegetarianism.  I'd never stop eating Animals.  chicKen is far less expensive, better for you, uses far less land to raise, and produces far less emissions to raise than cattle. There and plenty of other foods you can supplement your diet with as well.  Seems like you should look into it with how brain dead you are. 

I love how guys like you who think you know everything and have all the answers just make stuff up through self rationalization and never bother to look into the facts or consider people who have studies these topics immensely. NO NO 02sled on ole freedomsledder has ALL the answers!

 

Some facts:

-Livestock take up 25% of land not covered by ice

-260 million acres of usa forests have been cut for livestock feed

-80% of the deforestation in the amazon is due to beef production

-one acre of beef production land producing 250lbs of beef could product over 130,000 lbs of vegatables.

-1 lb of beef uses 1800 gallons of water to produce while chicken is 470 gal and 357 gal for 3 pounds of potatoes

 

Get some rest, its been a long day for you.

What a load of crap. You would have to be in a coma to buy into that lie. Do you ever research the propaganda you read and buy into?

[bussman]

2 minutes ago, Boered said:

What a load of crap. You would have to be in a coma to buy into that lie. Do you ever research the propaganda you read and buy into?

No

[Catman]

49 minutes ago, Boered said:

What a load of crap. You would have to be in a coma to buy into that lie. Do you ever research the propaganda you read and buy into?

How long does it take to raise 1 cow for slaughter ?    idiot

Edit:  I noticed I make a mistake  it's 30,000 lbs of vegatables not 130000...

I've looked into it immensely 

Edited December 9, 2016 by Catman

[bussman]

Steak for dinner now.  

[Dave]

7 minutes ago, bussman said:

Steak for dinner now.  

Medium rare?

[Dave]

10 minutes ago, Catman said:

How long does it take to raise 1 cow for slaughter ?    idiot

 

I've looked into it immensely 

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

3 hours ago, Catman said:

What in  the fuck are you talking  about? chicken $/lb is about 1/4 the cost of most beef products.

It's mostly rich countrieswho have the highest consumption of beef.

Vegatables have a higher yield per square foot of land and offer better nutrition in general. 

 

 

..and woosh. Way to miss the idea of privileged. Sheltered 1st world opinion on food. Maybe try visiting somewhere that doesn't have a Starbucks on every block. 

[bussman]

7 minutes ago, Dave said:

Medium rare?

Yes  

[sledderj]

1 hour ago, Catman said:

You don't know when to quit.

Your friends friend is dumb, you can be a vegetarian and be as healthy or healthy than a beef eater.

I digress I never even mentioned vegetarianism.  I'd never stop eating Animals.  chicKen is far less expensive, better for you, uses far less land to raise, and produces far less emissions to raise than cattle. There and plenty of other foods you can supplement your diet with as well.  Seems like you should look into it with how brain dead you are. 

I love how guys like you who think you know everything and have all the answers just make stuff up through self rationalization and never bother to look into the facts or consider people who have studies these topics immensely. NO NO 02sled on ole freedomsledder has ALL the answers!

 

Some facts:

-Livestock take up 25% of land not covered by ice

-260 million acres of usa forests have been cut for livestock feed

-80% of the deforestation in the amazon is due to beef production

-one acre of beef production land producing 250lbs of beef could product over 130,000 lbs of vegatables.

-1 lb of beef uses 1800 gallons of water to produce while chicken is 470 gal and 357 gal for 3 pounds of potatoes

 

Get some rest, its been a long day for you.

 

       

 

 

 

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

This guy is a full blown retard, but I like him. His aggression level is proper. Should be good fun. 

[02sled]

1 hour ago, Dave said:

Id have to disagree with that....

You go ahead and tell her doctors their analysis of her blood work is wrong. 

[Dave]

Just now, 02sled said:

You go ahead and tell her doctors their analysis of her blood work is wrong. 

Drs are wrong quite often....regardless every individual is different.

[ArcticCrusher]

12 minutes ago, Dave said:

Drs are wrong quite often....regardless every individual is different.

Oh they are wrong a lot.   But phd's starving for funding must be takwn seriously. 

[sledderj]

 

I got one kid who doesn't eat meat.  Vegetarianism isn't that hard, as long as you like bland food.  

Veganism is pretty tough IMO.  It can be done, but the crap they have to eat to avoid any animal products looks pretty disgusting IMO.  Of course they say it's all scrumptious, right after they finish trying to shame you for eating another salient being.

 

 

 

[02sled]

2 hours ago, Catman said:

You don't know when to quit.

Your friends friend is dumb, you can be a vegetarian and be as healthy or healthy than a beef eater.

I digress I never even mentioned vegetarianism.  I'd never stop eating Animals.  chicKen is far less expensive, better for you, uses far less land to raise, and produces far less emissions to raise than cattle. There and plenty of other foods you can supplement your diet with as well.  Seems like you should look into it with how brain dead you are. 

I love how guys like you who think you know everything and have all the answers just make stuff up through self rationalization and never bother to look into the facts or consider people who have studies these topics immensely. NO NO 02sled on ole freedomsledder has ALL the answers!

 

Some facts:

-Livestock take up 25% of land not covered by ice

-260 million acres of usa forests have been cut for livestock feed

-80% of the deforestation in the amazon is due to beef production

-one acre of beef production land producing 250lbs of beef could product over 130,000 lbs of vegatables.

-1 lb of beef uses 1800 gallons of water to produce while chicken is 470 gal and 357 gal for 3 pounds of potatoes

 

Get some rest, its been a long day for you.

So when do you quit and go back to your village so they can stop looking for their idiot. You tell me to give it a rest... take some of your own advice since you keep showing your stupidity. Only an absolute moron would believe that North Americans eating less beef would solve world hunger.

consider people who have studies these topics immensely 

Sure as hell hope you don't mean you. Which university is your degree in climatology from? You selectively claim...

-Livestock take up 25% of land not covered by ice

-260 million acres of usa forests have been cut for livestock feed

Sure as hell not North America. Definitely not Canada. You claim these as facts but don't offer up any viable accredited proof.  

Now you're going on about how much water is consumed. I don't know where you are but water is pretty plentiful here. Ontario has about 1/5 of the worlds fresh water. Give up Catman... we heard constantly all about the ozone layer having holes and causing global warming thanks to our carbon footprint... oops... all of a sudden silence and the ozone layer was inexplicably repairing itself. Now it's no longer global warming it's climate change and the carbon footprint is to blame.... give it time and there will be yet another shift to another theory.

[02sled]

1 hour ago, Catman said:

How long does it take to raise 1 cow for slaughter ?    idiot

Edit:  I noticed I make a mistake  it's 30,000 lbs of vegatables not 130000...

I've looked into it immensely 

So how long does it take Catman. I know do you. About 14 to 15 months from calf to slaughter house. That would put them around 1200 to 1300 lbs. The last weeks before they go to the stock yard they come in from the pastures and are fed beef finisher. But then they have a year round operation and not just relying on summer seasonal crop growth.  I can put you in touch with the President of the Ontario Charolais Association. I suspect he understands raising beef cattle better than you even though you've looked into it immensely.

[02sled]

46 minutes ago, Dave said:

Drs are wrong quite often....regardless every individual is different.

Agreed and as you said every individual is different and how they metabolize things are different. Her doctors since she has seen a few starting with her family doctor and then a couple of specialists identified blood deficiencies that would be corrected if she ate some meat. That's all I know based on what she told us.

Edited December 9, 2016 by 02sled

[Dave]

19 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Agreed and as you said every individual is different and how they metabolize things are different. Her doctors since she has seen a few starting with her family doctor and then a couple of specialists identified blood deficiencies that would be corrected if she ate some meat. That's all I know based on what she told us.

Can lead a horse to water....

Edited December 9, 2016 by Dave

[washedupmxer]

1 hour ago, Catman said:

How long does it take to raise 1 cow for slaughter ?    idiot

Edit:  I noticed I make a mistake  it's 30,000 lbs of vegatables not 130000...

I've looked into it immensely 

you should have said looked into it bigly

[Boered]

1 hour ago, Catman said:

How long does it take to raise 1 cow for slaughter ?    idiot

Edit:  I noticed I make a mistake  it's 30,000 lbs of vegatables not 130000...

I've looked into it immensely 

18 months from birth to slaughter, yield is about 500 lbs of boneless trimmed beef, not 250 as your propaganda states. While some cattle are pastured until slaughter, most are not and are grain fed for the better part of their lives fattening them faster and confining them so they do not move about toughening the beef. You can argue about the ethical nature of a feed lot, bit you original statements are simply full of cow manure. I studied the immensely.

[Catman]

49 minutes ago, Boered said:

18 months from birth to slaughter, yield is about 500 lbs of boneless trimmed beef, not 250 as your propaganda states. While some cattle are pastured until slaughter, most are not and are grain fed for the better part of their lives fattening them faster and confining them so they do not move about toughening the beef. You can argue about the ethical nature of a feed lot, bit you original statements are simply full of cow manure. I studied the immensely.

Never mentioned anything related how much 1 cow produces.  you can grow numerous cycles of vegetables in 18 months, which was entirely my point.

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

So how long does it take Catman. I know do you. About 14 to 15 months from calf to slaughter house. That would put them around 1200 to 1300 lbs. The last weeks before they go to the stock yard they come in from the pastures and are fed beef finisher. But then they have a year round operation and not just relying on summer seasonal crop growth.  I can put you in touch with the President of the Ontario Charolais Association. I suspect he understands raising beef cattle better than you even though you've looked into it immensely.

Most of the food we consume in Canada is produced in regions which grow year round.  the numbers are accurate and I challenge you to refute them with more than a efernce to some arms length friend of yours. lol  

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

So when do you quit and go back to your village so they can stop looking for their idiot. You tell me to give it a rest... take some of your own advice since you keep showing your stupidity. Only an absolute moron would believe that North Americans eating less beef would solve world hunger.

consider people who have studies these topics immensely 

Sure as hell hope you don't mean you. Which university is your degree in climatology from? You selectively claim...

-Livestock take up 25% of land not covered by ice

-260 million acres of usa forests have been cut for livestock feed

Sure as hell not North America. Definitely not Canada. You claim these as facts but don't offer up any viable accredited proof.  

Now you're going on about how much water is consumed. I don't know where you are but water is pretty plentiful here. Ontario has about 1/5 of the worlds fresh water. Give up Catman... we heard constantly all about the ozone layer having holes and causing global warming thanks to our carbon footprint... oops... all of a sudden silence and the ozone layer was inexplicably repairing itself. Now it's no longer global warming it's climate change and the carbon footprint is to blame.... give it time and there will be yet another shift to another theory.

This is no theory moron. thsee are facts at end yiur opinion is not a faCT it's pure fantasy.  if you pulled your head out of your ass yoI'd relize how realis to it is

http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

8 minutes ago, Catman said:

Never mentioned anything related how much 1 cow produces.  you can grow numerous cycles of vegetables in 18 months, which was entirely my point.

Most of the food we consume in Canada is produced in regions which grow year round.  the numbers are accurate and I challenge you to refute them with more than a efernce to some arms length friend of yours. lol  

This is no theory moron. thsee are facts at end yiur opinion is not a faCT it's pure fantasy.  if you pulled your head out of your ass yoI'd relize how realis to it is

http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

Did you just post a link to cowspiracy? Seems credible. 

BTW, can you type? You can't claim the educational informed high ground, if you can't string a sentence together... 

Your North American ignorance on food in the developing world is astonishing btw. 

[02sled]

Catman is Chicken Little. The sky is falling, the sky is falling 

[sledderj]

57 minutes ago, Catman said:

Never mentioned anything related how much 1 cow produces.  you can grow numerous cycles of vegetables in 18 months, which was entirely my point.

Most of the food we consume in Canada is produced in regions which grow year round.  the numbers are accurate and I challenge you to refute them with more than a efernce to some arms length friend of yours. lol  

This is no theory moron. thsee are facts at end yiur opinion is not a faCT it's pure fantasy.  if you pulled your head out of your ass yoI'd relize how realis to it is

http://www.cowspiracy.com/facts/

 

Do you realize that in Canada, 99% of the land used to graze cattle is used for that purpose because it's unable to productively grow anything else?  If it was productive, it would be used for higher value grain crops and sure as hell would never be able to grow vegetables.