spin_dry Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just another harbinger. https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/sp500-big-companies-loaded-up-dangerous-amounts-debt/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Some of us have been screaming about this bubble for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It will pass betas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Some of us have been screaming about this bubble for a while now The extent of this pain has just started to be revealed. And that is really unfortunate for a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The extent of this pain has just started to be revealed. And that is really unfortunate for a lot of people. I always get a kick listening to losers who don't have two cents to theirs names or in the markets offering their opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Well evidently, alot of these companys must not have two cents to their names either, otherwise they might not be in such a predicament. I mean hell, things only took a turn for the worse these last few days. There'll be no way to bail out of this problem if things continue like this for the next 3-5 months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, hayward said: Well evidently, alot of these companys must not have two cents to their names either, otherwise they might not be in such a predicament. I mean hell, things only took a turn for the worse these last few days. There'll be no way to bail out of this problem if things continue like this for the next 3-5 months. Ahhh....these companies were made to leverage everything they had to remain competitive.....that’s the direct result of endless free credit and massive debt driven consumption 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Ahhh....these companies were made to leverage everything they had to remain competitive.....that’s the direct result of endless free credit and massive debt driven consumption Don't look at me, I operate old paid for shit with no payments. Let all you ballers bail these fuckers out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Trumpco has nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, hayward said: Well evidently, alot of these companys must not have two cents to their names either, otherwise they might not be in such a predicament. I mean hell, things only took a turn for the worse these last few days. There'll be no way to bail out of this problem if things continue like this for the next 3-5 months. It was directed at spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: It was directed at spin. ahhh give the little fella a break, he gets it right once in a blue moon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, f7ben said: Some of us have been screaming about this bubble for a while now It's just a cold, the market has a cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Not really anything unexpected. When rates have been near zero for a decade, companies load up on cheap debt. Debt is additionally fueled by the interest being tax deductible. Regulatory requirements make it expensive to raise capital with equity, where debt is just a phone call away. The unfortunate thing is, stockholders are last in line if the company goes under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 12 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: Not really anything unexpected. When rates have been near zero for a decade, companies load up on cheap debt. Debt is additionally fueled by the interest being tax deductible. Regulatory requirements make it expensive to raise capital with equity, where debt is just a phone call away. The unfortunate thing is, stockholders are last in line if the company goes under. how is that unfortunate, owners should be the last to get paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: how is that unfortunate, owners should be the last to get paid How is it not unfortunate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 15 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: I always get a kick listening to losers who don't have two cents to theirs names or in the markets offering their opinion. You mean like these losers? And the debt bomb that Ben has been telling you about for the last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Zambroski said: How is it not unfortunate? owners should get paid last, employees bondholders suppliers etc all deserve to be paid first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: owners should get paid last, employees bondholders suppliers etc all deserve to be paid first I think its time to eat the rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: owners should get paid last, employees bondholders suppliers etc all deserve to be paid first I don’t disagree. It’s still unfortunate for those holding stock “ownership” as an investments for their future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Anler said: You mean like these losers? And the debt bomb that Ben has been telling you about for the last year? I invest in long term strategies, I don't flop around like a fish out of water like you two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: owners should get paid last, employees bondholders suppliers etc all deserve to be paid first That's usually how it happens, but should owners use their our equity to continue to pay their employees during these periods? Who here do you think is doing that? 1 hour ago, Anler said: I think its time to eat the rich. Your employees might eat you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I invest in long term strategies, I don't flop around like a fish out of water like you two. Oh stfu youve said that 1000x. This was in response to your loser comment and nobody knowing what they are talking about except you. except here is the examples of what we have been talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: That's usually how it happens, but should owners use their our equity to continue to pay their employees during these periods? Who here do you think is doing that? Your employees might eat you. I could probably teach you some lessons in leadership. In fact, I know I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, Anler said: Oh stfu youve said that 1000x. This was in response to your loser comment and nobody knowing what they are talking about except you. except here is the examples of what we have been talking about. You don't know what you are talking about or what you are doing, that is obvious. Where were you putting your investments, cause they should should stand through this? I'll wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: You don't know what you are talking about or what you are doing, that is obvious. Where were you putting your investments, cause they should should stand through this? I'll wait I havent touched any of my investments and I also have not been strutting around acting like I am the smartest "investor" on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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