Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 2, 2020 Really Senator Alexander....WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 This isn't over yet. Lots more emails coming out. Trump may not skate on this one quite as easily as some think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: This isn't over yet. Lots more emails coming out. Trump may not skate on this one quite as easily as some think. Nancy was really pushed to rush this thing, seems they would have been better off waiting and gathering more proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Edmo said: Nancy was really pushed to rush this thing, seems they would have been better off waiting and gathering more proof. They really fucked this thing up by rushing it. Trump would be done had the dems exercised a little patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, Edmo said: Nancy was really pushed to rush this thing, seems they would have been better off waiting and gathering more proof. Can't it gets burned. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Can't it gets burned. Neal Hilliary done leaned them well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Hilliary done leaned them well So did Bush. It's a common thing that all do. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AKIQPilot said: They really fucked this thing up by rushing it. Trump would be done had the dems exercised a little patience. Honestly I'm not sure the Dems. want the presidency, they have gotten far more money than they would with a Dem. Pres., and lets face it the economy will likely tank within the next four years or less. Hoping the Senates actions cause them to lose the majority I think that is what the Dems. are shooting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Honestly I'm not sure the Dems. want the presidency, they have gotten far more money than they would with a Dem. Pres., and lets face it the economy will likely tank within the next four years or less. Hoping the Senates actions cause them to lose the majority I think that is what the Dems. are shooting for. The senates actions? Look what happened in the house. Was that not a completely partisan exercise? Clinton’s impeachment was bi partisan. Are we supposed to forget about that and just blame the senate for his acquittal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Honestly I'm not sure the Dems. want the presidency, they have gotten far more money than they would with a Dem. Pres., and lets face it the economy will likely tank within the next four years or less. Hoping the Senates actions cause them to lose the majority I think that is what the Dems. are shooting for. I can agree but, I think they will lose the house over this and it’s unlikely they gain the senate. 2 minutes ago, Edmo said: The senates actions? Look what happened in the house. Was that not a completely partisan exercise? Clinton’s impeachment was bi partisan. Are we supposed to forget about that and just blame the senate for his acquittal? Looking at this bullshit partisanship, imagine if the Dems had the senate also. They impeach at will. Our system is now hyper partisan...it’s toast. Civil war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 This battle between Trump and the House Dems is far from over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Edmo said: The senates actions? Look what happened in the house. Was that not a completely partisan exercise? Clinton’s impeachment was bi partisan. Are we supposed to forget about that and just blame the senate for his acquittal? Yes the house fucked up. So that means the Senate should not be interested in hearing witnesses ? Two wrongs don't make a right, and one group looks like fuckups the other like cover ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I can agree but, I think they will lose the house over this and it’s unlikely they gain the senate. Looking at this bullshit partisanship, imagine if the Dems had the senate also. They impeach at will. Our system is now hyper partisan...it’s toast. Civil war. Maybe we will see, but as I say the House looks like fuckups, but the Senate looks like they are covering up, and more and more shit will be exposed, and the WH will be seen as covering it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, 1jkw said: Maybe we will see, but as I say the House looks like fuckups, but the Senate looks like they are covering up, and more and more shit will be exposed, and the WH will be seen as covering it up. The senate was an answer to a completely corrupt, biased, partisan and disgusting trial the Dems purposely ran. That’s all. I’m not happy they had it at all giving it any amount of credibility. They should have thrown it in the trash the second they were delivered....on television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: The senate was an answer to a completely corrupt, biased, partisan and disgusting trial the Dems purposely ran. That’s all. I’m not happy they had it at all giving it any amount of credibility. They should have thrown it in the trash the second they were delivered....on television. That is you biased opinion. No matter the bias in the house enough evidence was brought forth that 75% wanted the Senate to here from witnesses. In the coming days, weeks, and months more information will come out, and more cover ups by the WH will happen, and I honestly think it will hurt the Senate more than Trump or the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: This battle between Trump and the House Dems is far from over. Dems are idiots. Unless they get Trump on an actual crime that even the Republicans can't defend they will get the same result. In the mean time Republicans can extort Trump for whatever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, 1jkw said: That is you biased opinion. No matter the bias in the house enough evidence was brought forth that 75% wanted the Senate to here from witnesses. In the coming days, weeks, and months more information will come out, and more cover ups by the WH will happen, and I honestly think it will hurt the Senate more than Trump or the house. It’s not my “biased” opinion. It’s indeed what happened. There wasn’t a single shred of direct evidence to back any of the house’s articles. Not a sliver of it. Yet, they voted along party lines to impeach. Complete bullshit sidestepping th Constitution every singe step of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It’s not my “biased” opinion. It’s indeed what happened. There wasn’t a single shred of direct evidence to back any of the house’s articles. Not a sliver of it. Yet, they voted along party lines to impeach. Complete bullshit sidestepping th Constitution every singe step of the way. The whole thing was a farce. If you’re blaming the senate here you’re not paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 2, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Edmo said: The whole thing was a farce. If you’re blaming the senate here you’re not paying attention. Yes the House Dems fucked up but once the Articles are approved it is up to the Senate to act as an impartial jury and clearly they had no intentions of doing that and said so publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, AKIQPilot said: This battle between Trump and the House Dems is far from over. It kind of is though. The election will heat up and Durham will start dropping indictments and the appetite for impeachment will fade. Dems made their move and the moral of the story is if you are going to President hunting you have to have all of your ammunition dry are ready to go before you start shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: This battle between Trump and the House Dems is far from over. Yes x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: The senate was an answer to a completely corrupt, biased, partisan and disgusting trial the Dems purposely ran. That’s all. I’m not happy they had it at all giving it any amount of credibility. They should have thrown it in the trash the second they were delivered....on television. X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yes the House Dems fucked up but once the Articles are approved it is up to the Senate to act as an impartial jury and clearly they had no intentions of doing that and said so publicly. If they had proven their case in the house it would be different. They did not IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 2, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, Edmo said: If they had proven their case in the house it would be different. They did not IMO. Well that's fine but the Senate is where the "trial" happens and to have "jurors" say that they already have their mind made up before the trial even starts is not how it's supposed to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 There was no trial. There is no double jeopardy. The house will start this entire process over again and they wont make the same mistakes they made the first time. IMO this is not good for Trump. I believe he did most of what he is accused of doing. The emails concerning the aid to Ukraine go way back to March or before and there are hundreds of them. Say what you want about Schiff but he is a smart guy. He will not fuck this up this time around. This battle will likely go well beyond Nov 2020. There is no statute of limitation on this type of corruption. Trump will be impeached again but it will likely be in his second term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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