Mileage Psycho Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 This is how you treat an ally? You have to think that our Afghan allies are looking at US service personell sideways. Quote Military leader of Syrian Kurds tells US 'you are leaving us to be slaughtered' (CNN)The commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces told a senior US diplomat, "You are leaving us to be slaughtered," demanding to know whether the US is going to do anything to protect Syrian Kurds as Turkey continues its military operation targeting America's Kurdish allies in Syria. "You have given up on us. You are leaving us to be slaughtered," Gen. Mazloum Kobani Abdi told the Deputy Special Envoy to the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, William Roebuck, in a meeting Thursday, according to an internal US government readout that has been obtained exclusively by CNN. "You are not willing to protect the people, but you do not want another force to come and protect us. You have sold us. This is immoral," Mazloum added. He insisted the US either help stop the Turkish attack or allow the Syrian Democratic Forces to strike a deal with the Assad regime in Damascus and their Russian backers, allowing Russian warplanes to enforce a no-fly zone over northeast Syria, thereby denying Turkey the ability to carry out airstrikes. "I need to know if you are capable of protecting my people, of stopping these bombs falling on us or not. I need to know, because if you're not, I need to make a deal with Russia and the regime now and invite their planes to protect this region," Mazloum said. Turkey launched its long-threatened incursion into Syria after President Donald Trump ordered US troops to be pulled back from the border area. Before that, as a confidence building measure with Turkey, the US convinced Kurds to dismantle their defensive fortifications along the border and pull their fighters back. Turkey had pledged not to take military action. Senior members of the Trump administration have insisted the US has not deserted the Syrian Kurds, however the US government has not taken action yet to stop the Turkish incursion. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said Friday the US is not abandoning its Kurdish allies, although he made it clear the US military will not intervene in the fight. "We are not abandoning our Kurdish partner forces and US troops remain with them in other parts of Syria," Esper told reporters at the Pentagon. "We remain in close coordination with the Syrian Democratic Forces who helped us destroy the physical caliphate of ISIS, but I will not place American service members in the middle of a longstanding conflict between the Turks and the Kurds, this is not why we are in Syria," Esper said. In an interview with The Tennessean on Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration "has been incredibly supportive of the Kurds" and that they had been good partners to the US. "I am very confident this administration will continue to support these people who have been good friends of the United States of America," he said. Trump signed an executive order Friday giving the Treasury Department "very significant new sanctions authorities" against Turkey over its actions in Syria, but the US doesn't have any immediate plans to use them, Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin said. The Treasury statement had said that Trump's threat of sanctions was meant to dissuade Turkey from actions that included "the indiscriminate targeting of civilians, targeting of civilian infrastructure, targeting of ethnic or religious minorities." Trump, who has a well-established affinity for authoritarian leaders, invited Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to the White House in November. Mazloum told Roebuck Thursday that "I've been holding myself for two days from going to the press and saying that America abandoned us and that I would like you to get out of our areas now so that I can invite Russian and regime planes to take over this airspace. Either you stop this bombing on our people now or move aside so we can let in the Russians." Pentagon claims it's not abandoning Kurds while admitting it won't help them Roebuck told Mazloum "not to take any immediate decisions," saying he would communicate the Kurdish leaders' messages to the State Department, and saying the US was working to stop Turkey's offensive and broker a ceasefire. CNN has reached out to the State Department and White House on Saturday for comment. Asked what message the US was communicating to the Kurdish-led SDF, the Chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark Milley, said Friday that "we're encouraging them not to over-react at this point, and to try to tamp things down in order to allow some sort of diplomatic resolution to some of this." Several US military and defense officials who have spoken to CNN expressed dismay over how the Trump administration has handled the situation. One US official said it is well known that some senior US military officials are livid at how the Kurds have been treated. Another senior US defense official told CNN, "We are just watching the second largest Army in NATO attack one of our best counter-terrorism partners." Syrian Civil War Fast Facts A US official familiar with the situation in Syria tells CNN there is growing concern that Turkey's operation in Syria has grown in ambition and that Ankara seeks to control an area stretching from the Iraq border all the way to areas in northwest Syria already under Turkish control -- an area inhabited mostly by Kurds and other minorities. Turkish officials had previously communicated to the US that the scope of the operation was narrower, focusing in the area where the now defunct US-Turkish safe zone was to be located. The official said Friday's artillery strikes near US troops around Kobani are evidence Turkey is operating beyond the areas it had indicated to the US. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics/syrian-kurds-us-turkey-military-operation/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 “We should do something! WAR WITH TURKEY!!!!!!” FUCK TRUMP!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: A US official familiar with the situation in Syria tells CNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Why doesn’t trump lift the no fly zone and allow the Kurds to ally with Russia and Assad? Seems like a simple request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Why doesn’t trump lift the no fly zone and allow the Kurds to ally with Russia and Assad? Seems like a simple request. Send him a twit! You’ve got this!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: Send him a twit! You’ve got this!!!!!! You’re the guy that claims connections on the ground. oh, snake is here now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Snake said: obtained exclusively by CNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, spin_dry said: You’re the guy that claims connections on the ground. oh, snake is here now too. It’s not that, it’s just that you whining fucking hippies are about as clueless as it gets. But, carry on! It’s priceless. This is how our politicians make money in war. They appreciate your work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnloverxtreme2 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 normal actions by the yanks. get people all worked into a lather about freedoms, new states, (after pounding the fuck out of the old one). telling poor fucks "we got your back" and then just like a squirrel, 'look over there, nuts' leaving them out to dry. not just a trump thing. has been like this for years, MIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, spin_dry said: You’re the guy that claims connections on the ground. oh, snake is here now too. 38 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It’s not that, it’s just that you whining fucking hippies are about as clueless as it gets. But, carry on! It’s priceless. This is how our politicians make money in war. They appreciate your work! You keep saying everybody is clueless but you offer nothing.....pretty sure you are a lying sack of shit and have zero inside anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: You keep saying everybody is clueless but you offer nothing.....pretty sure you are a lying sack of shit and have zero inside anything. There's been plenty of times us "bootlickers" have given our opinions, only to hear a bunch of complete retardedness from you fucking clowns that LITERALLY don't know what you are talking about...at all. So...nope! You pseudo military and world strategists can carry the fuck on with your constant back peddling, hypocrisy and "misremembering" what you posted yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 12, 2019 Don't worry , it will never be called Kurdistan. It will be the Islamic states of Iraq and Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Call the Israelis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 11:21 AM, Snake said: It's a shit show now, we had 1,000 SF troops in country keeping things stable with Kurds doing the heavy lifting, now we have ISIS prisoners escaping. It's discouraging and demoralizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: It's a shit show now, we had 1,000 SF troops in country keeping things stable with Kurds doing the heavy lifting, now we have ISIS prisoners escaping. It's discouraging and demoralizing. So these Kurds were doing the “heavy lifting” but now, in one day...we pull back and it all falls to shit? Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: It's a shit show now, we had 1,000 SF troops in country keeping things stable with Kurds doing the heavy lifting, now we have ISIS prisoners escaping. It's discouraging and demoralizing. Putin is laughing his ass off. That guy is freaking amazing. He’s got the Kurds, a warm water port to expand, oil assets, Assad is his buddy, and Erdogan has no where else to turn except to Russia. He played this prefect. Oh, and now an alliance with Iran as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, spin_dry said: Putin is laughing his ass off. That guy is freaking amazing. He’s got the Kurds, a warm water port to expand, oil assets, Assad is his buddy, and Erdogan has no where else to turn except to Russia. He played this prefect. Oh, and now an alliance with Iran as well. Meanwhile Trump cries about Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Meanwhile Trump cries about Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. He’s got the right wingers thinking he’s a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, spin_dry said: He’s got the right wingers thinking he’s a genius. That he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Putin is laughing his ass off. That guy is freaking amazing. He’s got the Kurds, a warm water port to expand, oil assets, Assad is his buddy, and Erdogan has no where else to turn except to Russia. He played this prefect. Oh, and now an alliance with Iran as well. We really need an Obama! 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Meanwhile Trump cries about Shep Smith and Chris Wallace. “Meanwhile.....back at the legion of doom...” 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: He’s got the right wingers thinking he’s a genius. No, but you’ve all got many despising your every breath even more! Well done! Dems still have no plan, huh? 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: That he does. No. Dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Putin is laughing his ass off. That guy is freaking amazing. He’s got the Kurds, a warm water port to expand, oil assets, Assad is his buddy, and Erdogan has no where else to turn except to Russia. He played this prefect. Oh, and now an alliance with Iran as well. If only Napolean could come to the rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If Saddam was alive Trump would be having lunch with him in the Oval Office. FUCK TRUMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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