Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, Anler said: I'm guessing you don't know what sanctions are. You guess at a lot of things from my experience. Be my guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Interesting read. How today's crisis in Venezuela was created by Hugo Chávez's 'revolutionary' plan.html You can't blame everything on our "imperialism". Sometimes countries fuck things up all by themselves and then somebody else has to try to clean up the mess albeit by making a little money. Take that bullshit and shove it right up your bootlicking ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Do you think that nationalizing oil is a good thing? I may be wrong but I think that it makes fewer richer. Do you think that Chavez and his circle profited by it? What business is it of ours? It isn't. And this is all to steal control of the oil for the oil companies and commodity traders. Venezuela has tried to sell oil for below market rates in the past. When you do that you kinda expose the other guys who are fucking us as the thieves they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Just now, Anler said: What business is it of ours? It isn't. And this is all to steal control of the oil for the oil companies and commodity traders. Venezuela has tried to sell oil for below market rates in the past. When you do that you kinda expose the other guys who are fucking us as the thieves they are. And you think that's good...deep derp? Edited May 1, 2019 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: What business is it of ours? It isn't. And this is all to steal control of the oil for the oil companies and commodity traders. Venezuela has tried to sell oil for below market rates in the past. When you do that you kinda expose the other guys who are fucking us as the thieves they are. Yeah, they did sell oil at highly discounted prices to countries that begged for it. In turn, Chavez tried to impose his socialistic power on them. Who was the snake? Us or him. Had he not "used" the weak, nobody would have given a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, J. Jackson said: Yeah, they did sell oil at highly discounted prices to countries that begged for it. In turn, Chavez tried to impose his socialistic power on them. Who was the snake? Us or him. Had he not "used" the weak, nobody would have given a shit. No he didn't. That's a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: No he didn't. That's a lie. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Here's the game, Syria beat back isis and Al nusra who were secretly being supported by us, Saudis and Israel only to get.... Sanctions! You can't control oil unless they control the oil! With Assad Victorious, US Oil Sanctions Now Strangle Entire Syrian Population written by tyler durden sunday april 28, 2019 The deep irony of the tragic Syria war is that after seven years of massive bloodshed, as the government has emerged victorious, it is only now with relative stability and ensuing calm over most of the country that an "economic siege" has hit the population with full force. Damascus even during some of the worst years of warwas always a bustling traffic-packed economic center for its six million inhabitants, but as we noted previously the country has been plunged into a fuel crisis that is the result of new US-led oil sanctions targeting Damascus and Tehran. As one recent WSJ report put it, Iranian oil deliveries to Syria have "fallen off a cliff" since January. "Lifeless" and "decimated economy" are words used to describe the Syrian capital city and home to Assad in a new Bloomberg piece (which appeared just as busy as most any global cosmopolitan center only months ago), as further "traffic is light" and "morale is down," according to the report. "Waiting 19 hours for gas in a lifeless city" — the headlines read. The ongoing weeks-long crisis has now been made especially worse after the Trump administration this week ended embargo exemptions for eight countries allowed to purchase Iranian crude. "Lines of cars stretching for miles wait hours to fill their tanks with the 20 liters of gasoline that Syrians in government-controlled areas are allowed every five days," Bloomberg describes. "The last shipment of oil from Iran, which was sending up to 3 million barrels a month, came in October before sanctions were resumed." It was thought runaway inflation during the height of the war years would reverse course, but as one Damascus resident related: 'I thought once the war ended, our currency would become stronger and our living standards better,' said Saeed al-Khaldi, who transports vegetables across the sprawling city. Damascus’s population has almost doubled since the war started, to over 6 million, as civilians fled violence in other regions. 'Instead, we’re living from one crisis to the other.' The WSJ reported last month that Iranian oil had been routinely delivered to Syria throughout most of the war, but now "US sanctions have cut off Iranian oil shipments to Syria, taking an unprecedented toll on a flow of crude that had persisted in the face of long-term international restrictions and helped sustain the Assad regime through years of civil war." So why did Washington previously keep it flowing? Why cut off supplies now through increased sanctions? Simply put, Assad and his Iranian allies won the war. And so long as there were US-Saudi supported "rebels" entrenched in Damascus' suburbs, such as Eastern Ghouta, and other pockets across the country, any targeting of Syrian oil imports at that time would have strangled not only the regime but America's proxies on the ground as well. View image on Twitter EHSANI2@EHSANI22 How would #Syria ‘s State have been able to avoid the latest sanctions on Petroleum Products? By not going for the final “win” in April 2018 in Eastern Ghouta & other opposition held areas near Damascus. OFAC prepared its directive & delivered it barely 6 months afterwards 10 5:00 PM - Apr 18, 2019 See EHSANI2's other Tweets Twitter Ads info and privacy But now, as last year the final anti-Assad pockets of insurgents were rooted out by the Syrian Army, Washington is content to economically strangle the entire region. One little acknowledged fact is that by United Nations figures, the majority of the displaced from the war are actually "internally displaced persons" (7 million IDP's based on past years' estimates by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR), which means Washington's policy of economic strangulation is directly impacting every part of the population, whether pro-government or not. The White House still fundamentally prioritizes weakening Syria as crucial in its ultimate goal of regime change in Tehran. In this sense, the "long war" for Syria could merely be in its middle phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Do you think that nationalizing oil is a good thing? I may be wrong but I think that it makes fewer richer. Do you think that Chavez and his circle profited by it? I have a few simple questions. Why, given Venezuela is a sovereign nation, is it our business what they do with their oil? Let’s assume every claim you made was 100% correct for sake of argument. Who are we to tell them otherwise? Would our intervention in their sovereign country’s choice not be a violation of their sovereignty? If it is to control the price of oil by doing so, that is irrelevant since it isn’t our oil. Who are we to challenge another country’s sovereignty? At the end of the day, no country owes us a commodity. To think otherwise is foolish. By influencing their markets, we are acting in a manner that is claiming a level of ownership over their oil therefore there sovereignty. That, as a conservative thinker, would not be ok in any case if the roles were switched. Perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: Not at all. What about us forcing them? Is it our duty to undermine their govt? Sanctions alone have allegedly killed 40,000 people in Venezuela. Zammy says that's not our fault but those are our sanctions... https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/trump-has-murdered-over-40-000-venezuelans-with-sanctions-6eb3e7f0eb7f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Anler said: What about us forcing them? Is it our duty to undermine their govt? Sanctions alone have allegedly killed 40,000 people in Venezuela. Zammy says that's not our fault but those are our sanctions... https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/trump-has-murdered-over-40-000-venezuelans-with-sanctions-6eb3e7f0eb7f Why are our “rules” so important in the world? Why do we have so much pull? Why doesn’t the world just say fuck the USA? You play ball on the field by the rules of the commission in charge (it’s not just the USA). If you don’t like that, plan accordingly and be prepared for that commission to defend its product. Venezala was run into the ground by arrogant, socialist imbeciles that were outplayed, outsmarted and out scored. Instead of compromise, they chose death. How admirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Why are our “rules” so important in the world? Why do we have so much pull? Why doesn’t the world just say fuck the USA? You play ball on the field by the rules of the commission in charge (it’s not just the USA). If you don’t like that, plan accordingly and be prepared for that commission to defend its product. Venezala was run into the ground by arrogant, socialist imbeciles that were outplayed, outsmarted and out scored. Instead of compromise, they chose death. How admirable. That is some of the dumbest shit you've ever typed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Anler said: That is some of the dumbest shit you've ever typed. It’s the truth. That’s a fucking fact. If it hurts feelings, that’s not ever been a concern of mine. BTW, I didn’t say I agreed with it, but, it is what it is. I’m not going to play stupid (while thinking I’m “woke” and some type of fucking world revolutionary) and spend my life whining about it all. The world has rules. Like it or not, those rules have rule makers. Learn the rules and you can learn to manipulate them for a good slice of “win”. (I’m not digressing on this...but I sure could) Be a retard, misfit, revolutionary wanna-be and well.....enjoy eating dirt. And that’s fine by me too.....people like me want to win, even if sometimes begrudgingly with the rules set in motion. I don’t need you retards with big mouths fucking up my plans either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Anler said: That is some of the dumbest shit you've ever typed. Not even close. Don't get me wrong, it's fucking stupid. But that post is mediocre stupid for Zambo the clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Only fascist like socialism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: It’s the truth. That’s a fucking fact. If it hurts feelings, that’s not ever been a concern of mine. BTW, I didn’t say I agreed with it, but, it is what it is. I’m not going to play stupid (while thinking I’m “woke” and some type of fucking world revolutionary) and spend my life whining about it all. The world has rules. Like it or not, those rules have rule makers. Learn the rules and you can learn to manipulate them for a good slice of “win”. (I’m not digressing on this...but I sure could) Be a retard, misfit, revolutionary wanna-be and well.....enjoy eating dirt. And that’s fine by me too.....people like me want to win, even if sometimes begrudgingly with the rules set in motion. I don’t need you retards with big mouths fucking up my plans either. Doubling down from dumb dumb. "It's the truth, it's fact" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, DUMPY said: Only fascist like socialism Would the fascists be the country attempting the over throw of other countries govts? You just out dumbed zambroski, dude. Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: Not even close. Don't get me wrong, it's fucking stupid. But that post is mediocre stupid for Zambo the clown. Look Anler! He agrees! 1 minute ago, revkevsdi said: Doubling down from dumb dumb. "It's the truth, it's fact" You are one of the most ignorant, whiney, know nothing liars I’ve ever experienced on any forum. Seriously. It’s quite an accomplishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, Anler said: Would the fascists be the country attempting the over throw of other countries govts? You just out dumbed zambroski, dude. Congrats. I’m sorry if you don’t understand words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, DUMPY said: I’m sorry if you don’t understand words Words are hard to understand when you stay triggered about things that make you mad because you want to believe imaginary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, Zambroski said: Words are hard to understand when you stay triggered about things that make you mad because you want to believe imaginary stuff. Analer is a white nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, DUMPY said: Analer is a white nationalist He’s totally adorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 1, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 1, 2019 Stay the fuck out. Let them deal with it and if their country becomes a fucking socialist shithole......shut our doors and let them deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Stay the fuck out. Let them deal with it and if their country becomes a fucking socialist shithole......shut our doors and let them deal with it. It's just so weird that everyone down there is all upset about their socialistic wealth sharing situation. Maybe it isn't really social equality and wealth sharing at all? What if true socialism doesn't really do what it's promoters says it does? Huh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 1, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Stay the fuck out. Let them deal with it and if their country becomes a fucking socialist shithole......shut our doors and let them deal with it. x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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