irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: No, there is a difference between the instrumental record and satellite record. Do you not understand this? Neal Verifiable fact requires a control compared to a repeated experiment that produces the same result. A computer model that is constantly modified to match the data is not a control. Comparing recent data with advanced satellite technology to a mercury thermometer used in the early 19th century and carbon dating with a 5000 year accuracy is not a control. Repeating millions of years of climate cycles is not a possibility. They're using a computer model with an algorithm designed by people who are paid to prove global warming. If they don't produce the desired result, they don't get their grants renewed. Do you not see the conflict of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 Biggest scam perpetrated by anyone anywhere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The Phoenix news last night said that Arizona broke 25 different records for coldest temperature ever recorded during the month of February. Some records were totally destroyed by double digits. They said the month of Feb 2019 was 24 degrees colder than average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 WE MUST STOP CLIMATE CHANGE! If those retards would have implemented hard line taxes back before the last ice age...we wouldn't be in this mess now!!! Idiots!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: The Phoenix news last night said that Arizona broke 25 different records for coldest temperature ever recorded during the month of February. Some records were totally destroyed by double digits. They said the month of Feb 2019 was 24 degrees colder than average. Snow in Hawaii recently as well. I've said it before, we are more likely to go into a Global Freeze than we are into a Global meltdown. History proves that but who looks at that anymore when we have computers where we can manipulate the numbers and all sorts of things to prove our Global warming point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The Paris Climate Fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, jtssrx said: Yes and the records you are referring to are Satellite records that are 40 years old Incorrect, the last 5 years being the warmest 5 in recorded history is from the Instrumental record. You are incorrect. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: The Phoenix news last night said that Arizona broke 25 different records for coldest temperature ever recorded during the month of February. Some records were totally destroyed by double digits. They said the month of Feb 2019 was 24 degrees colder than average. It was cold here this winter too. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, irv said: Snow in Hawaii recently as well. I've said it before, we are more likely to go into a Global Freeze than we are into a Global meltdown. History proves that but who looks at that anymore when we have computers where we can manipulate the numbers and all sorts of things to prove our Global warming point. It snows in Hawaii every winter. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, irv said: Verifiable fact requires a control compared to a repeated experiment that produces the same result. A computer model that is constantly modified to match the data is not a control. Comparing recent data with advanced satellite technology to a mercury thermometer used in the early 19th century and carbon dating with a 5000 year accuracy is not a control. Repeating millions of years of climate cycles is not a possibility. They're using a computer model with an algorithm designed by people who are paid to prove global warming. If they don't produce the desired result, they don't get their grants renewed. Do you not see the conflict of interest? That the planet is warming is a verifiable fact. That man is contributing to that warming is also a verifiable fact. A control isn't necessary or required for either of those facts. The issue with anthropic warming isn't that we will destroy the planet. No one believes that we will do such a thing. The concern is that we will make much of the current parts of the planet uninhabitable, as it currently is. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Incorrect, the last 5 years being the warmest 5 in recorded history is from the Instrumental record. You are incorrect. Neal Where are getting your info from, Neal? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/04/26/global-temperatures-have-cooled-since-2016-heres-why-thats-normal/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6d1aff5a4ec9 https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-global-warming-earth-cooling-media-bias/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/#47d874cb3de0 https://globalnews.ca/news/3955038/danielle-smith-what-if-the-earth-is-actually-cooling/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That the planet is warming is a verifiable fact. That man is contributing to that warming is also a verifiable fact. A control isn't necessary or required for either of those facts. The issue with anthropic warming isn't that we will destroy the planet. No one believes that we will do such a thing. The concern is that we will make much of the current parts of the planet uninhabitable, as it currently is. Neal Verifiable by who, Neal? Scientists who receive funding as long as they go with the Gov't's narrative or by non funded scientists, or even those who were basically fired by disagreeing with the Govt's narrative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Neals head has concrete in it....it takes longer for it to cure if its cold...pay him no bother.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, irv said: Where are getting your info from, Neal? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/04/26/global-temperatures-have-cooled-since-2016-heres-why-thats-normal/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6d1aff5a4ec9 https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-global-warming-earth-cooling-media-bias/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/#47d874cb3de0 https://globalnews.ca/news/3955038/danielle-smith-what-if-the-earth-is-actually-cooling/ From research and an understanding of the issue being discussed, not memes... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, irv said: Verifiable by who, Neal? Scientists who receive funding as long as they go with the Gov't's narrative or by non funded scientists, or even those who were basically fired by disagreeing with the Govt's narrative? Anyone who wishes to be involved. Data is available if you so wish to research. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That the planet is warming is a verifiable fact. That man is contributing to that warming is also a verifiable fact. A control isn't necessary or required for either of those facts. The issue with anthropic warming isn't that we will destroy the planet. No one believes that we will do such a thing. The concern is that we will make much of the current parts of the planet uninhabitable, as it currently is. Neal Yes the planet is warming and man has a minor contribution just by breathing. The rest is total bullshit and the climate is going to do whatever it wants to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Anyone who wishes to be involved. Data is available if you so wish to research. Neal That data is there to feed the weak minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: From research and an understanding of the issue being discussed, not memes... Neal 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Anyone who wishes to be involved. Data is available if you so wish to research. Neal Quickly replies without even watching the vids I posted, especially the one right from the U.S. senate. Sorry to hear you have been sucked into the hysteria, Neal. It's nothing but a scam and hoax to extort more money out of you. The real info is out there, you just have to look instead of believing the people who are getting rich off of it. This is your/their narrative. If this doesn't make you think, then there is no hope. "Weather too hot? Global warming. Weather too cold? Global warming. Too much rain? Global warming. Drought? Global warming. What's the question? Doesn't matter. The answer's the same. Global warming. To true believers in the global warming religion, everything is a sign" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Meanwhile, in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Meanwhile, in Scotland So 122 years ago it was just as hot? Yep, must be Global Warming. Before 1901[edit] July 1757 heatwave, Europe, hottest summer in 500 years prior to 2003. 1896 Eastern North America heat wave killed 1,500 people in August 1896. 1900 – The historical heatwave of the center of Argentina between the first eight days of February 1900 known as "the week of fire" affects the city of Buenos Aires and Rosario with temperatures of up to 37 °C (98.6 °F) but with a very high index of humidity that elevates the sensation of heat to 49 °C (120.2 °F) severely affecting the health of people causing at least more than 478 fatalities. 20th century[edit] 1901 eastern United States heat wave killed 9,500 in the eastern United States. 1906 – During the 1906 United Kingdom heat wave which began in August and lasted into September broke numerous records. On the 2nd temperatures reached 36 °C (96 °F) which still holds the September record however some places beat their local record during September 1911 and September 2016. 1911 – The 1911 United Kingdom heat wave was one of the most severe periods of heat to hit the country with temperatures around 36 °C (97 °F). The heat began in early July and didn't let up until mid September where even in September temperatures were still up to 33 °C (92 °F). It took 79 years for temperature higher to be recorded in the United Kingdom during 1990 United Kingdom heat wave. 1923–1924 – During a period of 160 such days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924, the Western Australian town of Marble Bar reached 100 °F (38 °C).[1] 1936 – The 1936 North American heat wave during the Dust Bowl, followed one of the coldest winters on record—the 1936 North American cold wave. Massive heat waves across North America were persistent in the 1930s, many mid-Atlantic/Ohio valley states recorded their highest temperatures during July 1934. The longest continuous string of 100 °F (38 °C) or higher temperatures was reached for 101 days in Yuma, Arizona during 1937 and the highest temperatures ever reached in Canada were recorded in two locations in Saskatchewan in July 1937. 1950s – A prolonged severe drought and heat wave occurred in the early 1950s throughout the central and southern United States. In some areas it was drier than during the Dust Bowl and the heat wave in most areas was within the top five on record. The heat was particularly severe in 1954 with 22 days of temperatures exceeding 100 °F (38 °C) covering significant parts of eleven states. On 14 July, the thermometer reached 117 °F (47 °C) at East St. Louis, Illinois, which remains the record highest temperature for that state.[2][3][4] 1955 - The 1955 United Kingdom heat wave was a period of hot weather that was accompanied by drought. In some places it was the worst drought on record, more severe than 1976 and 1995. 1960 2 January - Oodnadatta, South Australia hit 50.7 °C (123.3 °F) degrees, the highest temperature ever recorded in the Southern Hemisphere and Oceania. 1972 – The heat waves of 1972 in New York and Northeastern United States were significant. Almost 900 people perished; the heat conditions lasted almost 16 days, aggravated by very high humidity levels. 1976 – The 1976 United Kingdom heat wave was one of the hottest in living memory and was marked by constant blue skies from May until September when dramatic thunderstorms signaled the heat wave's end. 1980 – An estimated 1,000 people perished in the 1980 United States heat wave and drought, which impacted the central and eastern United States. Temperatures were highest in the southern plains. From June through September, temperatures remained above 90 °F (32 °C) all but two days in Kansas City, Missouri. The Dallas/Fort Worth area experienced 42 consecutive days with high temperatures above 100 °F (38 °C), with temperatures reaching 117 °F (47 °C) at Wichita Falls, Texas on 28 June. Economic losses were $20 billion (1980 dollars).[5] 1983 – During the Summer of 1983 temperatures over 100 °F (38 °C) were common across Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, Minnesota, Nebraska, and certain parts of Kentucky; the summer of 1983 remains one of the hottest summers ever recorded in many of the states affected. The hundred-degree readings were accompanied by very dry conditions associated with drought affecting the Corn Belt States and Upper Midwest. The heat also affected the Southeastern U.S. and the Mid-Atlantic states as well that same summer. New York Times represented articles about the heat waves of 1983 affecting the central United States.[6] This heat wave was associated with the I-94 derecho. 1983 – The United Kingdom experienced a heatwave during July 1983. This was the hottest month ever recorded until it was beaten in 2006. The heatwave is remembered, not for its extreme heat but the relentless heat with temperatures around 32 °C (90 °F) every day. Temperature maxima for the month were high but not especially so. Temperature difference in Europe from the average during the European heat wave of 2003 1987 – prolonged heat wave from 20 to 31 July in Greece, with more than 1,000 deaths in the area of Athens. The maximum temperature measured was 41.6 °C at 23 July at the center of Athens and in the suburb of Nea Philadelphia, 8 km northeast was 43.6 °C at 27 July, and were combined with high minima, with the highest being 30.2 °C in the center of Athens at 27 July and 29.9 °C at 24 July at Nea Philadelfia. The lowest minimum was 25.6 °C at the center of Athens. Moreover, humidity was high and wind speeds low, contributing to human discomfort, even during the night.[7] 1988 - intense heat spells in combination with the drought of 1988, reminiscent of the dust bowl years caused deadly results across the United States. Some 5,000 to 10,000 people perished because of constant heat across the United States although-according to many estimates-total death reports run as high as next to 17,000 deaths.[8] 1990 – Cities across the United Kingdom broke their all time temperature records in the dramatic 1990 United Kingdom heat wave temperatures peaked at 37 °C (99 °F). This led to one of the hottest Augusts on record, records going back to 1659. 1995 – The 1995 Chicago heat wave produced record high dew point levels and heat indices in the Chicago area and Wisconsin. The lack of emergency cooling facilities and inadequate response from civic authorities to the senior population, particularly in lower income neighborhoods in Chicago and other Midwestern cities, lead to many hundreds of deaths. A series of damaging derechos occurred on the periphery of the hot air dome. 1995 – The United Kingdom experienced its 3rd hottest summer since 1659. August was the hottest on record since 1659. The summer was also the driest on record since 1766. Temperatures peaked at 35 °C (95 °F) on 1 August, which did not break the all-time record. 1997 – The United Kingdom experienced its 3rd major heatwave in 7 years with August 1997 being one of the hottest on record. 1999 – a heat wave and drought in the eastern United States during the summer of 1999. Rainfall shortages resulted in worst drought on record for Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. The state of West Virginia was declared a disaster area. 3,810,000 acres (15,400 km2) were consumed by fire as of mid-August. Record heat throughout the country resulted in 502 deaths nationwide.[9] There were many deaths in urban centers of the Midwest. 2000 – in late Summer 2000, a heat wave occurred in the southern United States, breaking many cities' all-time maximum temperature records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted March 2, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Anyone who wishes to be involved. Data is available if you so wish to research. Neal You’re wasting your time. Most of these fucks ignore facts and you can’t discuss science with those who simply ignore the information in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snopro31 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The USA is the leading country in reducing CO2 emissions. With no carbon tax With no Paris Agreement Thats bad news for the believers and bad for their bank accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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