motonoggin Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: False. Even if sweat shop people are not paid a lot, they are making much more money than they ever were before Lmao. A system that creates, relies upon, and exploits poverty can't claim that it's on an antipoverty crusade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: The amount of people living in starvation level Poverty has fallen around 80% since 1980 how did communism do? link? I thought more people were on food stamps here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Lmao. A system that creates, relies upon, and exploits poverty can't claim that it's on an antipoverty crusade. The amount of starvation level poverty has fallen about 80% since 1980. Such exploit! how does communisms stats compare? And what are you doing to help these poor exploited people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not what I'm saying at all. Whoosh! Yes it is. By defending and supporting capitalism you are implying that you don't think people would do any work unless they're either threatened with deprivation of basic needs or enticed by avarice and envy. Just because that's how you may operate and how you may motivate your workers doesn't mean that's how everyone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: The amount of starvation level poverty has fallen about 80% since 1980. Such exploit! how does communisms stats compare? And what are you doing to help these poor exploited people? Posting memes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: The amount of people living in starvation level Poverty has fallen around 80% since 1980 how did communism do? I would imagine the leaders made out rather well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: They wouldn't without incentive other than food, clothing and shelter. Right....Galileo and Pythagoras had to dream up that physics and math shit or they wouldnt have been able to eat. Kill yourself you short sighted moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, Anler said: link? I thought more people were on food stamps here... Being on food stamps is the opposite of starvation level poverty. Even the “poor people” in capitalism are comfortable in their living compared to others if one makes roughly $33,000 per year they are part of the global 1%. It’s an interesting stat. This makes moto one of those greedy people he hates who won’t use his privilege to help others. Communists\socialists are quick to point out that people over seas are starving and uncomfortable and stomp their feet that the 1% are the cause. But they are the 1%. It’s always someone else that needs to do the dirty work and pay the tab though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I would imagine the leaders made out rather well. Yup in communism the wealth gathers at the top much worse than capitalism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 So what Highmark is saying....is that without monetary incentive no advancements would have ever been made. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: So what Highmark is saying....is that without monetary incentive no advancements would have ever been made. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that? Poast up a society that’s shown otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 It's such a stupid point to try and blame individual workers for the failures of capitalism. This in the global 1% shit is a complete red herring. It's all relative. And it is not the workers fault that capitalism exploits poverty, disparity, and appeals to the worst of human behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: It's such a stupid point to try and blame individual workers for the failures of capitalism. This in the global 1% shit is a complete red herring. It's all relative. And it is not the workers fault that capitalism exploits poverty, disparity, and appeals to the worst of human behavior. It’s not a red herring. It’s you trying to pass off your privilege responsibilities onto someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Poast up a society that’s shown otherwise Ever heard of the Renaissance Era you brain dead fucking moron. Kill yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Being on food stamps is the opposite of starvation level poverty. Even the “poor people” in capitalism are comfortable in their living compared to others if one makes roughly $33,000 per year they are part of the global 1%. It’s an interesting stat. This makes moto one of those greedy people he hates who won’t use his privilege to help others. Communists\socialists are quick to point out that people over seas are starving and uncomfortable and stomp their feet that the 1% are the cause. But they are the 1%. It’s always someone else that needs to do the dirty work and pay the tab though. So no link then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Ever heard of the Renaissance Era you brain dead fucking moron. Kill yourself Oh I didn’t know money didn’t exist then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Anler said: So no link then? Will you be happier if I give you one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: So what Highmark is saying....is that without monetary incentive no advancements would have ever been made. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that? If people were all paid the same regardless of the quality of their work, advancement would certainly slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: It’s not a red herring. It’s you trying to pass off your privilege responsibilities onto someone else. It's absolutely a red herring, in a ham-handed attempt to try and blame the least powerful people for the actions of the most powerful. Typical blame-the-victim shit, I see it in all aspects of neoliberal/conservative ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Will you be happier if I give you one? Your liberal socialist education is showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: It's absolutely a red herring, in a ham-handed attempt to try and blame the least powerful people for the actions of the most powerful. Typical blame-the-victim shit, I see it in all aspects of neoliberal/conservative ideology. No it’s you typical communists that hate that stat because it exposes your greed. You are part of the elite that you hate yet refuse to self govern and redistribute your own wealth to those who have been exploited by the system that you prosper in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Anler said: Your liberal socialist education is showing. I must educate the masses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I must educate the masses Ohhhh... A youtube video. That has to be all true right? Youtube is good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Anler said: Ohhhh... A youtube video. That has to be all true right? Youtube is good! R U dum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 20, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Yes it is. By defending and supporting capitalism you are implying that you don't think people would do any work unless they're either threatened with deprivation of basic needs or enticed by avarice and envy. Just because that's how you may operate and how you may motivate your workers doesn't mean that's how everyone is. Jesus no I'm saying all they would be working for is food, clothing and shelter rather by concentrating on those items or trading other items/skills for those items. There would be no mass production, not mass farming, not mass anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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