Capt.Storm Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Z it was a good post to start with but way to much opportunity for spin and deflection. It does look like we are heading towards a society where pretty much anything goes. It's hard for me also...like how can you give a illegal a dl? How did that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Day one of the Obama first term the top repub says this.... https://youtu.be/W-A09a_gHJc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Z it was a good post to start with but way to much opportunity for spin and deflection. It does look like we are heading towards a society where pretty much anything goes. It's hard for me also...like how can you give a illegal a dl? How did that happen? Welcome to FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Anler, He's Prolly referring to Barry. Of course he is but the president is not king, he cant just change legislation at his will. Our economic problems are systemic and are only going to get worse. Crony capitalism is going to bleed us dry... 21 trillion coming up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Well Z is right,tolerance does have it's limits ..does that mean there will prolly be a uprising from the silent majority..who knows. Trump if elected will probably be a disappointment anywho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 42 minutes ago, Snake said: Americans continue to lose economic freedom. Following declines in seven of the past eight years, the United States this year has equaled its worst score ever in the Index of Economic Freedom. Ratings for labor freedom, business freedom, and fiscal freedom have flagged notably, and the regulatory burden is increasingly costly. Guess they didn't want to post this, from the link. Odd.............. LOL! 1 minute ago, Anler said: Of course he is but the president is not king, he cant just change legislation at his will. Our economic problems are systemic and are only going to get worse. Crony capitalism is going to bleed us dry... 21 trillion coming up! He has a phone and a pen. But you're correct, the whole system is corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 18 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Z it was a good post to start with but way to much opportunity for spin and deflection. It does look like we are heading towards a society where pretty much anything goes. It's hard for me also...like how can you give a illegal a dl? How did that happen? I know...it was a rant after reading some of the usual crap this morning. I am surprised at the low number of so called "prominent leftys" being absent from this though. Again...just a group of "cut and pasters" with no thoughts of their own other than to just fling shit at those that question their ideas. Which is weird too, because they really don't have any ideas of their own at all. Just a disenfranchised, "my life sucks because of someone else" bunch-o harpies. Status quo for America. And I'm pretty sure you know exactly why those DL's or, let's call them "voter cards", are being issued. 15 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Welcome to FS. Ahhh...I'm used to it. Although, it's weird not being sled based in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: And I'm pretty sure you know exactly why those DL's or, let's call them "voter cards", are being issued. Say it aint so Joe! Yeah..I was waiting to punch a lib in the face with that one..lol. Edited June 1, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Read Snake's thread called Typical, Snakes quote " When facts get in your way....... insult and raise your voice" sums this thread up perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 30 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I know...it was a rant after reading some of the usual crap this morning. I am surprised at the low number of so called "prominent leftys" being absent from this though. Again...just a group of "cut and pasters" with no thoughts of their own other than to just fling shit at those that question their ideas. Which is weird too, because they really don't have any ideas of their own at all. Just a disenfranchised, "my life sucks because of someone else" bunch-o harpies. Status quo for America. And I'm pretty sure you know exactly why those DL's or, let's call them "voter cards", are being issued. Ahhh...I'm used to it. Although, it's weird not being sled based in any way. I guess the flip side is its June 01. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Read Snake's thread called Typical, Snakes quote " When facts get in your way....... insult and raise your voice" sums this thread up perfectly. Oh good grief....Give me a break! You and that other complete Ass-hat run around this forum doing nothing but that. Then, when it's turned on you, you "take the high road". What a load! Hold on...I've got to gather myself a bit.... You and "Dweeble 1" (BTW, you are "Dweeble 2") have to be the worst two excuses of anybody promoting the liberal mentality on FS. In fact, you and your idiot friends are the reason we now have Trump...and it's just another reason for us all to hate you which is really only "Trumped" (pun) by the better reason that you still don't understand that at all. If only there was a rock big enough to slide you all under. But it's too late for that. You are a disease in this world, and a somewhat effective and contagious one. And going back to my original post, a cure is forthcoming. Try to use your god damn brain and not look so fucking surprised when it's time for your "inoculation". Edited June 1, 2016 by Zambroski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 54 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: Z it was a good post to start with but way to much opportunity for spin and deflection. It does look like we are heading towards a society where pretty much anything goes. It's hard for me also...like how can you give a illegal a dl? How did that happen? Agreed. Nothing is taboo or shameful anymore. Drug use, being a whore, bankruptcy. My wife's aunt was telling us last night, she went over to her brothers and here this buddy of his is bragging about being on disability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Oh good grief....Give me a break! You and that other complete Ass-hat run around this forum doing nothing but that. Then, when it's turned on you, you "take the high road". What a load! Hold on...I've got to gather myself a bit.... You and "Dweeble 1" (BTW, you are "Dweeble 2") have to be the worst two excuses of anybody promoting the liberal mentality on FS. In fact, you and your idiot friends are the reason we now have Trump...and it's just another reason for us all to hate you which is really only "Trumped" (pun) by the better reason that you still don't understand that at all. If only there was a rock big enough to slide you all under. But it's too late for that. You are a disease in this world, and a somewhat effective and contagious one. And going back to my original post, a cure is forthcoming. Try to use your god damn brain and not look so fucking surprised when it's time for your "inoculation". 1jkw is a pretty decent poster when it comes to having a debate actually. You on the other hand came into the new FreedomSledder just like SnowRider did the old FreedomSledder. Like a douchebag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Cold War said: Agreed. Nothing is taboo or shameful anymore. Drug use, being a whore, bankruptcy. My wife's aunt was telling us last night, she went over to her brothers and here this buddy of his is bragging about being on disability. Yup, Maggie McMuffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Oh good grief....Give me a break! You and that other complete Ass-hat run around this forum doing nothing but that. Then, when it's turned on you, you "take the high road". What a load! Hold on...I've got to gather myself a bit.... You and "Dweeble 1" (BTW, you are "Dweeble 2") have to be the worst two excuses of anybody promoting the liberal mentality on FS. In fact, you and your idiot friends are the reason we now have Trump...and it's just another reason for us all to hate you which is really only "Trumped" (pun) by the better reason that you still don't understand that at all. If only there was a rock big enough to slide you all under. But it's too late for that. You are a disease in this world, and a somewhat effective and contagious one. And going back to my original post, a cure is forthcoming. Try to use your god damn brain and not look so fucking surprised when it's time for your "inoculation". Number one, I have never copied and pasted anything on this site. Number two, I agree with what Trump has said for the most part except, Mexico won't pay for the wall, and some countries will not be able to pay more for the bases we have in their countries and they maybe vital to our security. You proved Snakes and my point perfectly in this post, not one fact just insults. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Just now, SSFB said: 1jkw is a pretty decent poster when it comes to having a debate actually. You on the other hand came into the new FreedomSledder just like SnowRider did the old FreedomSledder. Like a douchebag. If you disagree with something I post, fine...let's hear your side. But the same old "boo hoo, somebody is hurting my feelings" is quite lame. If you cannot defend yourself on the internet...don't throw stones. And "Douch Bag"?....how very unoriginal. SO................Now's your chance to get back at all us meanie HCS guys You have that power right? Show me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I have no problem with cut and paste when it is relevant to the discussion. Like all the ones in the Hillary email thread that get ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: 1jkw is a pretty decent poster when it comes to having a debate actually. You on the other hand came into the new FreedomSledder just like SnowRider did the old FreedomSledder. Like a douchebag. Thank you, I do my best to debate with facts and try to keep the insults to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: If you disagree with something I post, fine...let's hear your side. But the same old "boo hoo, somebody is hurting my feelings" is quite lame. If you cannot defend yourself on the internet...don't throw stones. And "Douch Bag"?....how very unoriginal. SO................Now's your chance to get back at all us meanie HCS guys You have that power right? Show me. I don't ever complain about someone hurting my feelings. On these websites, it's the people who act all macho who tend to bitch the most it seems. I don't punish people just for disagreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 1, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Zamboni is a trickled on parrot so I'll post some excerpts from an article I read this morning. BTW your thread was a failure for the start given your delusional opinion we have a free market economy. Do free markets subsidize businesses? Do companies like Oshkosh Corp and Marinette Marine exist in a free market where their existence is dependent on government contracts? Now let's look at the list of free market economies - many you would consider socialist - simply because they take care of their own with simple things like education, healthcare, and retirement. Apparently you prefer more in the hands of fewer people - which is what happened after W's tax cuts (see link). So who benefited from the 'free market' of private profits and public risk? Finally your delusional brain dead notion of people taking up arms and rectifying the issues with violence.... Maybe - but I'd be more concerned for the 1% than the average Joe who's black, brown, or white.... Tax increases will blunt the incentive to invest in new businesses: Decreasing taxes did not increase economic growth, so why would increasing taxes to levels they've been at in the past be harmful? In addition, it's hard to believe that a reduction in expected aftertax income of, say, 10 percent from $10 million to $9 million, or even from $300,000 to $270,000, would cause someone to pass on the investment opportunity. The wealthy will move to other countries to avoid the tax increase: A recent study examined the propensity of the rich to move between U.S. states in response to state tax increases. The lead author of the study, Cristobal Young of Stanford University, summarized the results by saying, "The most striking finding in our study is how little elites seem willing to move to exploit tax advantages across state lines." If the wealthy aren't willing to move between states in response to tax differences, it seems even more unlikely that would undertake the far more difficult task of moving to another country. Increasing taxes on the wealthy won't increase tax revenue: The Laffer curve argument that increasing taxes will cause the wealthy to pursue tax-avoidance strategies or forego profitable opportunities to the extent that tax revenues actually fall has been examined again and again, and the message is clear. Tax avoidance may increase somewhat, but nowhere near enough to cause tax revenues to fall. Diamond and Saez have looked at this closely, and they found that the revenue-maximizing top federal marginal income tax rate would be in or near the range of 50 percent to 70 percent (taking into account that individuals face additional taxes from Medicare and state and local taxes. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tax-hikes-on-the-wealthy-good-or-bad-for-growth/ Edited June 1, 2016 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 minute ago, SSFB said: I don't ever complain about someone hurting my feelings. On these websites, it's the people who act all macho who tend to bitch the most it seems. I don't punish people just for disagreeing with me. Well, I tip my hat to you sir. I really don't bitch much...but I've been known to throw a good vent out every now and then. It's intellectual pugilism I'm after. Or better called "intellectual debate". Some can do it...some cannot. Mice and men my friend....mice and men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Quote A new report says wealthy Maryland residents may be moving out due to recent tax hikes – a finding that is sure to escalate the battle over taxing the American rich. The study, by the anti-tax group Change Maryland, says that a net 31,000 residents left the state between 2007 and 2010, the tenure of a "millionaire's tax" pushed through by Gov. Martin O'Malley. The tax, which expired in 2010, in imposed a rate of 6.25 percent on incomes of more than $1 million a year. The Change Maryland study found that the tax cost Maryland $1.7 billion in lost tax revenues. A county-by-county analysis by Change Maryland also found that the state’s wealthiest counties also had some of the largest population outflows. In total, Maryland has added 24 new taxes or fees in recent years, Change Maryland says. Florida, which has no income-tax, has been a large recipient of Maryland's exiled wealthy. “Maryland has reached the point of diminishing returns. We're taxing people too much and people are voting with their feet," said Change Maryland Chairman Larry Hogan. “Until we change our focus from tax increases to increasing the tax base, more people are simply going to leave, leading to a downward spiral of raising revenues on fewer citizens." The finding adds to the renewed debate over raising taxes on the wealthy. In New Jersey, Gov. Chris Christie recently vetoed a millionaire's tax passed by his legislature, while California and other state governments are also considering higher taxes on high earners to fix budget problems. President Obama on Monday asked Congress to extend tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less – effectively increasing taxes for the higher earners. http://www.cnbc.com/id/48120446 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Snake said: I have no problem with cut and paste when it is relevant to the discussion. Like all the ones in the Hillary email thread that get ignored. I don't either. The only thing about the HC emails threads is there have been countless numbers of them, and she still hasn't been charged, when she is charged, well that will be fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 1, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, SSFB said: 1jkw is a pretty decent poster when it comes to having a debate actually. You on the other hand came into the new FreedomSledder just like SnowRider did the old FreedomSledder. Like a douchebag. You forget Spastic was anal about me from the start. I tske my share and I give it right back......and then some. If posters can't take it - don't dish it out. . Amd given the team Butthurt forum - it's obvious who couldn't seperate the forum from reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You forget Spastic was anal about me from the start. I tske my share and I give it right back......and then some. If posters can't take it - don't dish it out. . Amd given the team Butthurt forum - it's obvious who couldn't seperate the forum from reality. Let's just assume you're right, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. Now what about everyone else that you went into attack mode on from day one? You started shit with the vast majority there but you're too blind to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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