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[Anler]

 

Neocons Demand 'Crushing' Sanctions on Russia

written by ron paul

monday august 6, 2018

You can always count on the neocons in Congress to ignore reality, ignore evidence, and ignore common sense in their endless drive to get us involved in another war. Last week, for example, Senators John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-NC), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), and others joined up to introduce what Senator Graham called “the sanctions bill from hell,” aimed at applying “crushing” sanctions on Russia.

Senator Graham bragged that the bill would include “everything but the kitchen sink” in its attempt to ratchet up tensions with Russia.

Sen Cory Gardner (R-CO) bragged that the new sanctions bill “includes my language requiring the State Department to determine whether Russia merits the designation of a State Sponsor of Terror.”

Does he even know what the word “terrorism” means?

Sen Ben Cardin (D-MD) warns that the bill must be passed to strengthen our resolve against “Vladimir Putin’s pattern of corroding democratic institutions and values around the world, a direct and growing threat to US national security.”

What has Russia done that warrants “kitchen sink” sanctions that will “crush” the country and possibly designate it as a sponsor of terrorism? Sen. Menendez tells us: “The Kremlin continues to attack our democracy, support a war criminal in Syria, and violate Ukraine’s sovereignty.”

There is a big problem with these accusations on Russia: they’re based on outright lies and unproven accusations that continue to get more bizarre with each re-telling. How strange that when US Senators like Menendez demand that we stand by our NATO allies even if it means war, they attack Russia for doing the same in Syria. Is the Syrian president a “war criminal,” as he claims? We do know that his army is finally, with Russian and Iranian help, about to defeat ISIS and al-Qaeda, which with US backing for seven years have turned Syria into a smoking ruin. Does Menendez and his allies prefer ISIS in charge of Syria?

And how hypocritical for Menendez to talk about Russia violating Ukraine’s sovereignty. The unrest in Ukraine was started by the 2014 US-backed coup against an elected leader. We have that all on tape!

How is Russia “attacking our democracy”? We’re still waiting for any real evidence that Russia was involved in our 2016 elections and intends to become involved in our 2018 elections. But that doesn’t stop the propagandists, who claim with no proof that Russia was behind the election of Donald Trump.

These Senators claim that sanctions will bring the Russians to heel, but they are wrong. Sanctions are good at two things only: destroying the lives of innocent civilians and leading to war.

As I mentioned in an episode of my Liberty Report last week, even our own history shows that sanctions do lead to war and should not be taken lightly. In the run-up to US involvement in the War of 1812, the US was doing business with both France and the UK, which were at war with each other. When the UK decided that the US was favoring France in its commerce, it imposed sanctions on the US. What did Washington do in response? Declared war. Hence the War of 1812, which most Americans remember as that time when the British burned down the White House.

Recent polls show that the majority of Americans approve of President Trump’s recent meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Among Republicans, a vast majority support the meeting. Perhaps a good defeat in November will wake these neocon warmongers up. Let’s hope so!

[GGNHL]

The man who should have been president.

 

We have fucked with more than a handful of country's elections since the end of WW2 and we have the stones to get pissed "if" someone tried it on us.

[steve from amherst]

2 minutes ago, GGNHL said:

The man who should have been president.

 

We have fucked with more than a handful of country's elections since the end of WW2 and we have the stones to get pissed "if" someone tried it on us.

x2

[Zambroski]

13 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

 

Neocons Demand 'Crushing' Sanctions on Russia

written by ron paul

monday august 6, 2018

You can always count on the neocons in Congress to ignore reality, ignore evidence, and ignore common sense in their endless drive to get us involved in another war. Last week, for example, Senators John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-NC), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), and others joined up to introduce what Senator Graham called “the sanctions bill from hell,” aimed at applying “crushing” sanctions on Russia.

Senator Graham bragged that the bill would include “everything but the kitchen sink” in its attempt to ratchet up tensions with Russia.

Sen Cory Gardner (R-CO) bragged that the new sanctions bill “includes my language requiring the State Department to determine whether Russia merits the designation of a State Sponsor of Terror.”

Does he even know what the word “terrorism” means?

Sen Ben Cardin (D-MD) warns that the bill must be passed to strengthen our resolve against “Vladimir Putin’s pattern of corroding democratic institutions and values around the world, a direct and growing threat to US national security.”

What has Russia done that warrants “kitchen sink” sanctions that will “crush” the country and possibly designate it as a sponsor of terrorism? Sen. Menendez tells us: “The Kremlin continues to attack our democracy, support a war criminal in Syria, and violate Ukraine’s sovereignty.”

There is a big problem with these accusations on Russia: they’re based on outright lies and unproven accusations that continue to get more bizarre with each re-telling. How strange that when US Senators like Menendez demand that we stand by our NATO allies even if it means war, they attack Russia for doing the same in Syria. Is the Syrian president a “war criminal,” as he claims? We do know that his army is finally, with Russian and Iranian help, about to defeat ISIS and al-Qaeda, which with US backing for seven years have turned Syria into a smoking ruin. Does Menendez and his allies prefer ISIS in charge of Syria?

And how hypocritical for Menendez to talk about Russia violating Ukraine’s sovereignty. The unrest in Ukraine was started by the 2014 US-backed coup against an elected leader. We have that all on tape!

How is Russia “attacking our democracy”? We’re still waiting for any real evidence that Russia was involved in our 2016 elections and intends to become involved in our 2018 elections. But that doesn’t stop the propagandists, who claim with no proof that Russia was behind the election of Donald Trump.

These Senators claim that sanctions will bring the Russians to heel, but they are wrong. Sanctions are good at two things only: destroying the lives of innocent civilians and leading to war.

As I mentioned in an episode of my Liberty Report last week, even our own history shows that sanctions do lead to war and should not be taken lightly. In the run-up to US involvement in the War of 1812, the US was doing business with both France and the UK, which were at war with each other. When the UK decided that the US was favoring France in its commerce, it imposed sanctions on the US. What did Washington do in response? Declared war. Hence the War of 1812, which most Americans remember as that time when the British burned down the White House.

Recent polls show that the majority of Americans approve of President Trump’s recent meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Among Republicans, a vast majority support the meeting. Perhaps a good defeat in November will wake these neocon warmongers up. Let’s hope so!

The man makes some good, tremendous points, always has. But falls short on leadership qualities.  Like his son does in his footsteps. It’s a shame really.

8 minutes ago, GGNHL said:

The man who should have been president.

 

We have fucked with more than a handful of country's elections since the end of WW2 and we have the stones to get pissed "if" someone tried it on us.

Ohhh...I’d say a dozen handful’s.

Look at the retards go though!!!!!  “HOW DARE THEY MEDDLE WITH OUR POLITICS.”

Best quote ever by Ted “Imamoron”  Cruze (paraphrased).  “We don’t meddle in other’s elections, we promote Democracy!!!”

He clearly wears his super tight freedom pants on his head.

[Jimmy Snacks]

Great read...He is always spot on.

[Mainecat]

He’s a certified  fuckin lunatic

[steve from amherst]

yeah because minding ones own business is just plain fucking nuts.

[jtssrx]

6 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

He’s a certified  fuckin lunatic

You're a Certified partisan retard. You have to support the neocons becuase they support your Russia Collusion nonsense 

[GGNHL]

21 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

He’s a certified  fuckin lunatic

Says the guy who loves snowmobiling but shuts down a snowmobile trail through his own property and posts 10 threads a day with the same title, andat least 30 posts a day thats just "fuck trump!".

 

[steve from amherst]

Just now, GGNHL said:

Says the guy who loves snowmobiling but shuts down a snowmobile trail through his own property  

 

Wait a minute , what?

[Jimmy Snacks]

20 minutes ago, GGNHL said:

Says the guy who loves snowmobiling but shuts down a snowmobile trail through his own property and posts 10 threads a day with the same title, andat least 30 posts a day thats just "fuck trump!".

 

 

19 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Wait a minute , what?

I had forgotten about that....MC what say you?

[GGNHL]

54 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Wait a minute , what?

 

34 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

I had forgotten about that....MC what say you?

 

He bought a property up in northern NH to snowmobile from and the trail went through the yard, he didn't like it being so close so he shut em off is what I and others recall.

Edited August 6, 2018 by GGNHL

[steve from amherst]

No one ever told him a " no trespassing " sign in NH is considered un neighborly

[Angry ginger]

23 hours ago, GGNHL said:

 

 

He bought a property up in northern NH to snowmobile from and the trail went through the yard, he didn't like it being so close so he shut em off is what I and others recall.

the property is is Rangeley (Dallas Plantation) if i recall correctly 

[Snake]

[Pete]

On ‎8‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 10:54 AM, GGNHL said:

 

 

He bought a property up in northern NH to snowmobile from and the trail went through the yard, he didn't like it being so close so he shut em off is what I and others recall.

what a fucking asshole.

[Pete]

elitist fucking liberal asshole who is part of a dying breed..

[Kivalo]

On 8/6/2018 at 9:36 AM, Mainecat said:

He’s a certified  fuckin lunatic

You shit your pants again.

[Anler]

On 8/6/2018 at 8:20 AM, Zambroski said:

The man makes some good, tremendous points, always has. But falls short on leadership qualities.  Like his son does in his footsteps. It’s a shame really.

 

The "man" is smarter and more conservative than any candidate you have ever supported!

 

[$poorsledder$]

Nice.  His BIL's family supports him so he can buy land to enjoy sledding and then he closes it to everyone that is involved in the sport.   

[Zambroski]

48 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

The "man" is smarter and more conservative than any candidate you have ever supported!

 

That may be.  But he still lacks real leadership traits.  While he comes across with good ideas/thoughts/values, he appears weak and meek and seems likely to fold under any real pressure.

It's easy to coach from the bleachers.

[Kivalo]

2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

That may be.  But he still lacks real leadership traits.  While he comes across with good ideas/thoughts/values, he appears weak and meek and seems likely to fold under any real pressure.

It's easy to coach from the bleachers.

Dems have been saying the exact same thing abiut Trump. Different styles, thats all.

[Zambroski]

Just now, Kivalo said:

Dems have been saying the exact same thing abiut Trump. Different styles, thats all.

True.  But Dems like weak leaders.  Meekness is a virtue for them.  Weak minds like that.  It's not intimidating to them.  Trump is the other side of it.  Follow him into battle?  Nope.  But support him while he changes direction of the country/world back in favor of the US citizens?  Yep.

[Anler]

7 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

That may be.  But he still lacks real leadership traits.  While he comes across with good ideas/thoughts/values, he appears weak and meek and seems likely to fold under any real pressure.

It's easy to coach from the bleachers.

His leadership skills are fine, most people just arent smart enough to hear what he is saying. If he just touted the usual "Rah Rah!" shit he would be an awesome leader. Pull some old phrases like "If youre not with us, you are with the terrorists!" or " You didnt build that!" or "Ask not what your country can do for you! Ask what you can do for your country!" Then he would be a party darling! 

[Kivalo]

8 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

His leadership skills are fine, most people just arent smart enough to hear what he is saying. If he just touted the usual "Rah Rah!" shit he would be an awesome leader. Pull some old phrases like "If youre not with us, you are with the terrorists!" or " You didnt build that!" or "Ask not what your country can do for you! Ask what you can do for your country!" Then he would be a party darling! 

Truth!