Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 2, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Source more US produced steel to offset higher cost import steel to build their cars for the US market. This is to help keep the prices of a new BMW down from the high cost import steel if tariffs go through. These tariffs will become a huge win for the US middle class. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/06/steel-deal-bmw-may-start-sourcing-carbonized-iron-u-s/#more-1627256 Edited June 2, 2018 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Fire up those mines and Mills bitches!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: Fire up those mines and Mills bitches!!! Particularly that one in Minnesota so our pal Ben can go home! Lots of crying over this tariff talk but it seems to be working for the middle class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Edmo said: Particularly that one in Minnesota so our pal Ben can go home! Lots of crying over this tariff talk but it seems to be working for the middle class. I live in steel mill USA, I know people around here will love that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 2, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) This is the Germans retaliation for US steel and aluminum tariffs enacted by trump, is by buying more US produced steel and aluminum. the EU retaliation is awesome...... buying US steel instead of importing steel to US.... that will teach Trump!!!!! Edited June 2, 2018 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: This is the Germans retaliation for US steel and aluminum tariffs enacted by trump, is by buying more US produced steel and aluminum. the EU retaliation is awesome...... buying US steel instead of importing steel to US.... that will teach Trump!!!!! You’re missing the larger picture though. This is referring to a plant that is in the US. Are they going to buy US steel for their German plants? No. How about all the other industries that use steel in other countries? Will they buy US steel when there’s a 25% tarrif on it or will they buy domestic steel? How about all the other industries that are hit with tariffs like the soy bean farmers for instance? One minuscule possible win doesn’t offset all the losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 2, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: You’re missing the larger picture though. This is referring to a plant that is in the US. Are they going to buy US steel for their German plants? No. How about all the other industries that use steel in other countries? Will they buy US steel when there’s a 25% tarrif on it or will they buy domestic steel? How about all the other industries that are hit with tariffs like the soy bean farmers for instance? One minuscule possible win doesn’t offset all the losses. They didn’t buy us steel for their German plants before... what they are looking to do is buy more us steel for their us plants. BMW cars built in the US will use more us sourced steel. That is the point... nothing more. And it’s a win for the US!!!! US steel will have to increase production due to the increased demand. Edited June 2, 2018 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, BOHICA said: They didn’t buy us steel for their German plants before... what they are looking to do is buy more us steel for their us plants. BMW cars built in the US will use more us sourced steel. That is the point... nothing more. And it’s a win for the US!!!! US steel will have to increase production due to the increased demand. Whoosh Lots of companies in Canada, the EU and Mexico use US steel. When it costs more because of recriprocal tarriffs imposed as a result of the US tariffs on our steel, demand will drop. What don’t you understand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 2, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Whoosh Lots of companies in Canada, the EU and Mexico use US steel. When it costs more because of recriprocal tarriffs imposed as a result of the US tariffs on our steel, demand will drop. What don’t you understand? Why are they buying US steel when it is already more expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Why are they buying US steel when it is already more expensive? Who says it’s more expensive? American and Canadian steel was basically the same price here prior to the tarriffs. What happens now remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 2, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Who says it’s more expensive? American and Canadian steel was basically the same price here prior to the tarriffs. What happens now remains to be seen. If its the same price there will be no tarriff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: If its the same price there will be no tarriff Huh? American steel will be 25% more expensive vs Domestic when Canada implements it’s tarrif on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 2, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: Huh? American steel will be 25% more expensive vs Domestic when Canada implements it’s tarrif on it There will be no tariff on Canadian steel if it is the same price as American steel. So either you are incorrect about the price of Canadian steel , or you are worried about nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: There will be no tariff on Canadian steel if it is the same price as American steel. So either you are incorrect about the price of Canadian steel , or you are worried about nothing. Okay, let’s try this one last time..... Prior to this tarrif talk, Canadian produced steel and US produced steel were the same price in Canada. Now that the US has implemented a 25% tarrif on Canadian steel being imported into the US, Canada is going to reciprocate and slap a 25% tarrif on US steel being imported into Canada. The Canadian tarrif on US steel imports is slated to go into effect on July 1. On July 2, US steel theoretically will cost 25% more than Canadian steel in Canada. Get it???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 2, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 2, 2018 No , try this. IF Canadian steel hits the open market at the same price as American steel there will be no tariff on it. That is what you are missing. You are assuming there will be a tariff even if without one the price is the same. That is incorrect. Either Canadian steel is already cheaper or there isn't going to be a tariff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: You’re missing the larger picture though. This is referring to a plant that is in the US. Are they going to buy US steel for their German plants? No. How about all the other industries that use steel in other countries? Will they buy US steel when there’s a 25% tarrif on it or will they buy domestic steel? How about all the other industries that are hit with tariffs like the soy bean farmers for instance? One minuscule possible win doesn’t offset all the losses. we're they buying U.S. steel before . oh really no that is odd. just shut the fuck up and admit the us a has been getting fucked on trade for decades and it is long past due to attempt to get back to a level field . yeah yeah we know America has been arrogant and all that pussy talk . but that did not work now we are pissing back and so far it is working .I know that makes you sad inside but deal with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, BOHICA said: Source more US produced steel to offset higher cost import steel to build their cars for the US market. This is to help keep the prices of a new BMW down from the high cost import steel if tariffs go through. These tariffs will become a huge win for the US middle class. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/06/steel-deal-bmw-may-start-sourcing-carbonized-iron-u-s/#more-1627256 Considering is a strong word, especially in of light how the price of US steel is going through the roof. Tariffs and trade wars are never free. Quote On Friday, the automaker announced it was seriously considering boosting the amount of locally sourced steel for its U.S. factory. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/06/steel-deal-bmw-may-start-sourcing-carbonized-iron-u-s/#more-1627256 https://www.wheatland.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ECN-Price-Increase-Announcement.pdf Edited June 2, 2018 by Mileage Psycho typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 hours ago, steve from amherst said: If its the same price there will be no tarriff You have a significant misunderstanding of what a tariff is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: we're they buying U.S. steel before . oh really no that is odd. just shut the fuck up and admit the us a has been getting fucked on trade for decades and it is long past due to attempt to get back to a level field . yeah yeah we know America has been arrogant and all that pussy talk . but that did not work now we are pissing back and so far it is working .I know that makes you sad inside but deal with it BMW’s plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina, is the automaker’s largest in terms of production volume. It currently sources more than 70 percent of its steel from within the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: BMW’s plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina, is the automaker’s largest in terms of production volume. It currently sources more than 70 percent of its steel from within the United States. We want that number to be 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: We want that number to be 100% That’s unrealistic and not how trade works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: That’s unrealistic and not how trade works It is totally realistic. We can produce better steel and a better price than any other nation that has any standards at all. No reason to import any steel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: BMW’s plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina, is the automaker’s largest in terms of production volume. It currently sources more than 70 percent of its steel from within the United States. Drove buy that plant everyday last year for a couple of weeks. Spartenburg is on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: It is totally realistic. We can produce better steel and a better price than any other nation that has any standards at all. No reason to import any steel What are you afraid then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: What are you afraid then? Chinese garbage made by slaves filtered through 100s of port with its country of origin relabeled. Try and follow along you fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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