Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: Many of these dudes never had any structure or even a reason to get up in the AM. To just warehouse them and then release them thinking they will turn it around on their own is ridiculous. Prison is nothing structure and being told when to get up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Highmark said: Thats how you look at it? Well maybe if they paid more like many of us they would find workers too. I think I proved with other articles where they paid them 3-4 dollars an hour less what its all about. Harvest time should be interesting in the fruit and vegetable fields this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: For sure. All these faggots complaining about how much a cheeseburger will cost at $15 an hour might get real pissed when their produce prices double. I'm thinking that the fruit and veggie farmers might get pissed to, but that's OK Trump will blame Obama and that will be that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 16 hours ago, BOHICA said: Low level, low threat offenders in jail should be used to fill these vacancies. The crab processors/pickers can then pay the prison system for the labor provided to help off set the cost of incarceration funded by tax payers. This way prisoners wouldnt be taking Jobs from Americans cause Americans would not take those jobs anyways as proof by the need for visas. Also if it is a shitty job it may serve as a deterrent to repeat offenders that have the threat of having to work a shitty job while incarcerated. Also some may find a new profession and establish the feeling of self worth and accomplishment! Agree 100%, this should be happening all over the country. 14 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: Institutional slavery! Great fucking idea! It is an outstanding idea, far better than taxpayers (good Americans) paying for the prison system. It could teach them a lesson....if you don't want to go to prison to work for free then don't commit the crime. Because at the end of the day, I'd much rather see the bad people be the slaves instead of the good people (taxpayers). How about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 How about we release all these low level offenders who don’t belong in prison to begin with..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, SnowRider said: How about we release all these low level offenders who don’t belong in prison to begin with..... If a person could go to prison for being a fuckstick, you would be serving a life sentence with no chance for parole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, SnowRider said: How about we release all these low level offenders who don’t belong in prison to begin with..... Low level offenders? You mean offenders of the laws the liberals keep making....like how it is against the law to....smoke in a bar, not wear a seat belt, etc? FFS, start looking at the bullshit laws that are enacted by your hero's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Low level offenders? You mean offenders of the laws the liberals keep making....like how it is against the law to....smoke in a bar, not wear a seat belt, etc? FFS, start looking at the bullshit laws that are enacted by your hero's. Or we could look at who pushes laws that actually put people in prison......like Hippie lettuce related offenses and other low level drug crimes....who,might that be Doe Dumber... Then take a look at how many cells are occupied by bar smokers and seat belt rebels Edited May 16, 2018 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: Or we could look at who pushes laws that actually put people in prison......like Hippie lettuce related offenses and other low level drug crimes....who,might that be Doe Dumber... Then take a look at how many cells are occupied by bar smokers and seat belt rebels Which ones, do you have any in particular or do you just parrot what you are told to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, racer254 said: Which ones, do you have any in particular or do you just parrot what you are told to? Who’s for tougher drug laws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, SnowRider said: Who’s for tougher drug laws? Are you mad about the criminals that are not paying their wheel tax? Or maybe the ones not putting in SOLAR on their new homes? How about the people still using incandescent light bulbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, racer254 said: Low level offenders? You mean offenders of the laws the liberals keep making....like how it is against the law to....smoke in a bar, not wear a seat belt, etc? FFS, start looking at the bullshit laws that are enacted by your hero's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: Yeah... you don't see a conflict with having a prison system that locks people up at a high cost to the tax payer and then forces them to perform labor at slave wages so the prison can profit from said labor? Wow. not force you dumb fuck . the guys want somthing to do. it is a privlage to ha e a job on the inside .you can have no disturbance issues or you loose your job. so no I see absolutely no issue with getting min security guys out to onsite jobs paying them min wage .of that wagr,they keep 2 bucks the state takes the rest till restitution is paid. then they can start paying for there back child supported or what ever ills they left behind. then the cost of work release related costs .then and only then the state can take a few more bucks out of the check to put in savings for when they get out . i see zero issue with it and guarentee guys would be linning up for the jobs. you get just how many in-house jobs already exist are you not? a fuck ton of call centers are in side prisons .a lot of assembly jobs. even trades are taught and used .my wife grandfather taught masonry and stone work in a st cloud prison for 25yrs . the guys maintained the wall and buildings and walks and the waiting list to get the jobs were yrs and that was zero pay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Who knew prisons are full of illegal bar smokers and seat belt offenders? SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Who knew prisons are full of illegal bar smokers and seat belt offenders? SMH Well, what criminal offenders are in prison that should be allowed to just leave? Illegal Immigrants? Edited May 16, 2018 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Well, what criminal offenders are in prison that should be allowed to just leave? Illegal Immigrants? shit load of min security prisons out there full of non violent offenders . the 8 duo guys the drug charge guys forgery/ theft shit lots of small shit . I have a friend who was in for 18 yrs for 100 sheets of lsd . CA is full of 3 strikes low level offenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: shit load of min security prisons out there full of non violent offenders . the 8 duo guys the drug charge guys forgery/ theft shit lots of small shit . I have a friend who was in for 18 yrs for 100 sheets of lsd . CA is full of 3 strikes low level offenders California? The liberal run state of paradise? NO WAY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: not force you dumb fuck . the guys want somthing to do. it is a privlage to ha e a job on the inside .you can have no disturbance issues or you loose your job. so no I see absolutely no issue with getting min security guys out to onsite jobs paying them min wage .of that wagr,they keep 2 bucks the state takes the rest till restitution is paid. then they can start paying for there back child supported or what ever ills they left behind. then the cost of work release related costs .then and only then the state can take a few more bucks out of the check to put in savings for when they get out . i see zero issue with it and guarentee guys would be linning up for the jobs. you get just how many in-house jobs already exist are you not? a fuck ton of call centers are in side prisons .a lot of assembly jobs. even trades are taught and used .my wife grandfather taught masonry and stone work in a st cloud prison for 25yrs . the guys maintained the wall and buildings and walks and the waiting list to get the jobs were yrs and that was zero pay Cool, I can start sub contracting prison labor for minimum wage!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: Harvest time should be interesting in the fruit and vegetable fields this year. As the Zen master said....."We'll see." Funny how nobody complains about the companies that use these "workers" and the burden they place on the social system like they do Walmart. You think these workers get medical or do they simply go to the ER? What's your opinion of them being paid $3-$4 hr less than American equivalents? Edited May 16, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: As the Zen master said....."We'll see." Funny how nobody complains about the companies that use these "workers" and the burden they place on the social system like they do Walmart. You think these workers get medical or do they simply go to the ER? What's your opinion of them being paid $3-$4 hr less than American equivalents? Of course not, these are just little companies that are trying to hold costs of crab meat down for the local consumer.....ie good companies, not like big bad WALMART. The hypocrisy knows no bounds in liberal utopia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, racer254 said: Whaaaa, the wages at McDonalds should be $15/hour Whaaaaa, the price of crab meat is too high because there are not enough CHEAP migrant workers. You really can't make this up. This proves the exact point about what happens when you raise wages artificially. Thread ender. Edited May 16, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Well, what criminal offenders are in prison that should be allowed to just leave? Illegal Immigrants? you are dumb as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, racer254 said: Of course not, these are just little companies that are trying to hold costs of crab meat down for the local consumer.....ie good companies, not like big bad WALMART. The hypocrisy knows no bounds in liberal utopia. i'll ask again, what liberals are crying, and now being hypocritical? besides, there is a huge difference in Wal-Mart and a local restaurant depending upon cheap crab pickers. your stupidity has no bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i'll ask again, what liberals are crying, and now being hypocritical? besides, there is a huge difference in Wal-Mart and a local restaurant depending upon cheap crab pickers. your stupidity has no bounds. You are. Have you not complained about wanting a higher minimum wage? And in this thread you complained about the price of crab meat being too high. What do you want? High wages or low crab meat prices? FFS you need to figure out how this utopia is going to survive on your feel good policies. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, racer254 said: You are. Have you not complained about wanting a higher minimum wage? And in this thread you complained about the price of crab meat being too high. What do you want? High wages or low crab meat prices? FFS you need to figure out how this utopia is going to survive on your feel good policies. LOL Hey dumb fuck......it’s not about the wages for crabbers....it’s about literally having people available to do the work. Crab prices are tied to supply and demand......not hourly employees pulling pots. You’re dumb as dirt and should STFU while you’re still behind. Edited May 16, 2018 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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