Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted July 18, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 18, 2021 I don't concider myself sheep. I don't know if I believe all the numbers. I do know that the world has been effected by this. I didn't know anyone in my circle of family or friends that even had it. Last winter I lost all the oil from my Cat about 30-40 minutes from my truck and trailer. One of the guys riding with us said "I know a guy not far from here, let's call." This guy jumped in his truck with atrailer and came to pick my sled up at the side of the road." I drove back later to pick it up and he loaded it for me. Great guy. Well this is his story. Most people in our area know him as Chicken Mike. https://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/news/local-news/norfolk-man-returns-home-after-covid-19-battle-2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I don't concider myself sheep. I don't know if I believe all the numbers. I do know that the world has been effected by this. I didn't know anyone in my circle of family or friends that even had it. Last winter I lost all the oil from my Cat about 30-40 minutes from my truck and trailer. One of the guys riding with us said "I know a guy not far from here, let's call." This guy jumped in his truck with atrailer and came to pick my sled up at the side of the road." I drove back later to pick it up and he loaded it for me. Great guy. Well this is his story. Most people in our area know him as Chicken Mike. https://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/news/local-news/norfolk-man-returns-home-after-covid-19-battle-2 I'm not denying covid exists, I just think it is greatly overblown. Regarding the vaccines, I now know 2 people who have now died from the vaccine, and I know one woman whose lower legs swelled up like balloons and went to the hospital. All 3 were perfectly healthy who tested negative for covid prior to their vaccines. Like your friends story above, where are the stories for these types of cases? The vaccine is a first time ever used RNA vaccine. There is nothing about it similar/same to what we had in our childhood. It hasn't been approved, except for emergency use only, and there are no long term side affect studies. To each their own, but like I've said before, until I can see proof it is actually doing anything at all at curbing/protecting you from covid, I won't be getting it. Numerous cases of fully vaccinated people getting covid after they have been vaccinated. Some hospitalized and some dying. The "scientists" say the benefit outweighs the risk. Numerous doctors and nurses refuse to take it, but of course, they are silenced and shunned. Why is that? Why are the side affects, hospitalizations, deaths never talked about? Why are these breakthrough cases never talked about? Why are the side affects never mentioned in any of the T.V. or on air commercials? Barely a peep about the 6 new cases of fully vaccinated Yankee ball players this week and the same for the 9 who contracted it after being fully vaccinated back in May? If they weren't famous ball players, we wouldn't have heard a peep otherwise. Can someone tell me, when I post these links on facebook, they are removed? That, in itself, throws up a red flag for me. Why don't they want people knowing about this and why are the vaccines being pushed on people to the likes that has never been seen before? Free ice cream, free burger and fires, free sporting event tickets, free lottery tickets. They go on and on. I don't know about you guys, but if doctors, nurses and other frontline workers are refusing them, then that's good enough for me as well. https://www.crainsdetroit.com/health-care/why-are-some-health-care-workers-refusing-covid-vaccine https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/02/large-numbers-of-health-care-and-frontline-workers-are-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=658337693c96 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-health-care-worker-reluctance/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-hospital-staff-vaccinations-1.5961417 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/health-care-workers-vaccines-northern-ontario-1.5963181 https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access Edited July 18, 2021 by irv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Nobody said Covid is a hoax, but it was planned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, irv said: I'm not denying covid exists, I just think it is greatly overblown. Regarding the vaccines, I now know 2 people who have now died from the vaccine, and I know one woman whose lower legs swelled up like balloons and went to the hospital. All 3 were perfectly healthy who tested negative for covid prior to their vaccines. Like your friends story above, where are the stories for these types of cases? The vaccine is a first time ever used RNA vaccine. There is nothing about it similar/same to what we had in our childhood. It hasn't been approved, except for emergency use only, and there are no long term side affect studies. To each their own, but like I've said before, until I can see proof it is actually doing anything at all at curbing/protecting you from covid, I won't be getting it. Numerous cases of fully vaccinated people getting covid after they have been vaccinated. Some hospitalized and some dying. The "scientists" say the benefit outweighs the risk. Numerous doctors and nurses refuse to take it, but of course, they are silenced and shunned. Why is that? Why are the side affects, hospitalizations, deaths never talked about? Why are these breakthrough cases never talked about? Why are the side affects never mentioned in any of the T.V. or on air commercials? Barely a peep about the 6 new cases of fully vaccinated Yankee ball players this week and the same for the 9 who contracted it after being fully vaccinated back in May? If they weren't famous ball players, we wouldn't have heard a peep otherwise. Can someone tell me, when I post these links on facebook, they are removed? That, in itself, throws up a red flag for me. Why don't they want people knowing about this and why are the vaccines being pushed on people to the likes that has never been seen before? Free ice cream, free burger and fires, free sporting event tickets, free lottery tickets. They go on and on. I don't know about you guys, but if doctors, nurses and other frontline workers are refusing them, then that's good enough for me as well. https://www.crainsdetroit.com/health-care/why-are-some-health-care-workers-refusing-covid-vaccine https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/02/large-numbers-of-health-care-and-frontline-workers-are-refusing-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=658337693c96 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-health-care-worker-reluctance/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-hospital-staff-vaccinations-1.5961417 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/health-care-workers-vaccines-northern-ontario-1.5963181 https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access I had to take my mom to the hospital emergency yesterday. Never seen it almost empty before. Triage, registration and burst nurse visit in about 5 mins, all waiting for people. What a sham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) From April this year. I'm sure all numbers are up since then if they were investigated and noted? So far, 5,800 fully vaccinated people have caught COVID-19 anyway in U.S., CDC says. Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/so-far-5-800-fully-vaccinated-people-have-caught-covid-19-anyway-in-u-s-cdc-says-1.5388245 https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...zeneca-vaccine https://globalnews.ca/video/7815211/...zeneca-vaccine https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml Warriors' Damion Lee tested positive for COVID-19 despite full vaccination Lee went on to describe the symptoms he experienced, including headache, chills, sneezing, congestion, soreness, body aches, and what he described as "brain fog" — where he'd lost track of what he was talking about five minutes into a conversation. "It felt like I was hit by a car, hit by two cars at once," he added. https://theathletic.com/news/warrior...n/muRvt49vKYuI https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/gol...032701485.html Why are they withholding this info from the Public?? The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public. https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/ We are still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and washing your hands often. CDC will continue to update recommendations as we know more. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ect/after.html 1.3% of Canada’s COVID-19 cases had 1st vaccine: PHAC Two hundred and three people were hospitalized and 53 people died of COVID-19 after receiving one shot of the vaccine, PHAC added. https://globalnews.ca/news/7829119/c...t-dose-canada/ https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html Why emergency COVID-vaccine approvals pose a dilemma for scientists Immunizations are speeding towards approval before clinical trials end, but scientists say this could complicate efforts to study long-term effects. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03219-y B.C. man has part of small intestine removed due to vaccine-induced blood clot "I really wish they had let us know what “worse case scenario” might look like..."" https://www.torontosun.com/news/loca...f-81de5fd6d4c0 Family left with questions after Brampton senior's death. https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ive-days-later Are there so many of these breakthrough cases that they couldn't keep up??? "At the start of May, the CDC shifted from monitoring all reported breakthroughs to only those that result in hospitalization or death, Tom Clark, head of the vaccine evaluation unit for the CDC’s vaccine task force, said in an interview" https://fortune.com/2021/05/10/can-y...cases-tracing/ Edited July 18, 2021 by irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: I had to take my mom to the hospital emergency yesterday. Never seen it almost empty before. Triage, registration and burst nurse visit in about 5 mins, all waiting for people. What a sham. Hope she's OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: I had to take my mom to the hospital emergency yesterday. Never seen it almost empty before. Triage, registration and burst nurse visit in about 5 mins, all waiting for people. What a sham. ???? The lockdown ended that rush are you really not seeing that? there is only 120 people in ICUs now, maybe less didn't check today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Nobody said Covid is a hoax, but it was planned. actually plenty of people did including the President of the United States "this hoax made up by the Democrats" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, irv said: From April this year. I'm sure all numbers are up since then if they were investigated and noted? So far, 5,800 fully vaccinated people have caught COVID-19 anyway in U.S., CDC says. Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/so-far-5-800-fully-vaccinated-people-have-caught-covid-19-anyway-in-u-s-cdc-says-1.5388245 https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...zeneca-vaccine https://globalnews.ca/video/7815211/...zeneca-vaccine https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml Warriors' Damion Lee tested positive for COVID-19 despite full vaccination Lee went on to describe the symptoms he experienced, including headache, chills, sneezing, congestion, soreness, body aches, and what he described as "brain fog" — where he'd lost track of what he was talking about five minutes into a conversation. "It felt like I was hit by a car, hit by two cars at once," he added. https://theathletic.com/news/warrior...n/muRvt49vKYuI https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/gol...032701485.html Why are they withholding this info from the Public?? The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public. https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/ We are still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and washing your hands often. CDC will continue to update recommendations as we know more. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ect/after.html 1.3% of Canada’s COVID-19 cases had 1st vaccine: PHAC Two hundred and three people were hospitalized and 53 people died of COVID-19 after receiving one shot of the vaccine, PHAC added. https://globalnews.ca/news/7829119/c...t-dose-canada/ https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html Why emergency COVID-vaccine approvals pose a dilemma for scientists Immunizations are speeding towards approval before clinical trials end, but scientists say this could complicate efforts to study long-term effects. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03219-y B.C. man has part of small intestine removed due to vaccine-induced blood clot "I really wish they had let us know what “worse case scenario” might look like..."" https://www.torontosun.com/news/loca...f-81de5fd6d4c0 Family left with questions after Brampton senior's death. https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ive-days-later Are there so many of these breakthrough cases that they couldn't keep up??? "At the start of May, the CDC shifted from monitoring all reported breakthroughs to only those that result in hospitalization or death, Tom Clark, head of the vaccine evaluation unit for the CDC’s vaccine task force, said in an interview" https://fortune.com/2021/05/10/can-y...cases-tracing/ I thought this was a planned attack by all governments, why would this information be released by the very people we are accusing of "The great Sheep hoax" I can you post something about these people you know that have died from their vaccine for covid, I hope you are not just making up stuff that would be sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: actually plenty of people did including the President of the United States "this hoax made up by the Democrats" No, it's from the globalists. You know that debt nobody has to pay back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, oldslowsledder said: Hope she's OK She's good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: I thought this was a planned attack by all governments, why would this information be released by the very people we are accusing of "The great Sheep hoax" I can you post something about these people you know that have died from their vaccine for covid, I hope you are not just making up stuff that would be sad Wanna bet this was not included as an adverse side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Wanna bet this was not included as an adverse side effect. Yes it is included - why do you have to wait 15 minutes before leaving? advert side affect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Yes it is included - why do you have to wait 15 minutes before leaving? advert side affect Bull. It's totally underreported. Good to see this get coverage on fake news. Yah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Billion of vaccines given out, side affects are next to nothing. And if you compare it to the Haters saying covid is safe only 1 in 2000 die the received it is harmless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Bull. It's totally underreported. Good to see this get coverage on fake news. Yah right. It is reported - with a handful of people being affect for whatever reason, how much reporting should there be? astrazenca is gone now and that was just like 5 people in Canada that got blood clots. AC there is really only 1 way we can find out if all this will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: It is reported - with a handful of people being affect for whatever reason, how much reporting should there be? astrazenca is gone now and that was just like 5 people in Canada that got blood clots. AC there is really only 1 way we can find out if all this will work The virus is a bio-weapon fail and the cure is worse. Are you really this dumb? For real, not acting or trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: The virus is a bio-weapon fail and the cure is worse. Are you really this dumb? For real, not acting or trolling. Hopefully these vaccines work and we don't have to go backwards again ... we are nearing 70% double shots Huge cost dollar wise no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 17 hours ago, irv said: The vaccine is a first time ever used RNA vaccine. There is nothing about it similar/same to what we had in our childhood. It hasn't been approved, except for emergency use only, and there are no long term side affect studies. To each their own, but like I've said before, until I can see proof it is actually doing anything at all at curbing/protecting you from covid, I won't be getting it. Numerous cases of fully vaccinated people getting covid after they have been vaccinated. Some hospitalized and some dying. The "scientists" say the benefit outweighs the risk. Numerous doctors and nurses refuse to take it, but of course, they are silenced and shunned. Why is that? Why are the side affects, hospitalizations, deaths never talked about? Why are these breakthrough cases never talked about? Why are the side affects never mentioned in any of the T.V. or on air commercials? Can someone tell me, when I post these links on facebook, they are removed? That, in itself, throws up a red flag for me. Why don't they want people knowing about this and why are the vaccines being pushed on people to the likes that has never been seen before? Free ice cream, free burger and fires, free sporting event tickets, free lottery tickets. They go on and on. I don't know about you guys, but if doctors, nurses and other frontline workers are refusing them, then that's good enough for me as well. To each their own says IRV but you are sheep and posts it daily here and on his facebook IRV millions of Doctors and Nurse have gotten the vaccine, why is that not a part of your thought process? The few that didn't is a deal breaker? You state you are afraid that some people got covid and died after getting a vaccine, but the millions that died without the vaccine isn't a concern to you do you not see this as odd? By the way FACEBOOK is not a YOUR RIGHT and is a private entity that has the right to delete your posts or even delete your account without warning or reason. You should post your dinner shots instead of insulting all of your (used to be) friends and family daily.... You have been bitten, I hope you get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: To each their own says IRV but you are sheep and posts it daily here and on his facebook IRV millions of Doctors and Nurse have gotten the vaccine, why is that not a part of your thought process? The few that didn't is a deal breaker? You state you are afraid that some people got covid and died after getting a vaccine, but the millions that died without the vaccine isn't a concern to you do you not see this as odd? By the way FACEBOOK is not a YOUR RIGHT and is a private entity that has the right to delete your posts or even delete your account without warning or reason. You should post your dinner shots instead of insulting all of your (used to be) friends and family daily.... You have been bitten, I hope you get better. You creeping me now on FB, Trail? You are one fucked up, strange individual. Wasn't it you who took a self appointed leave after someone creeped you on FB? So fucking stupid you are!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, irv said: You creeping me now on FB, Trail? You are one fucked up, strange individual. Wasn't it you who took a self appointed leave after someone creeped you on FB? So fucking stupid you are!! YOU posted that you post links all day on facebook and gets deleted - no I haven't creeped you IRV no it was due to douche bags here and at their site posting my personal information and some trying to get me fired from work.. also why I don't promote my great sled site here anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted July 19, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 4:39 PM, ArcticCrusher said: Nobody said Covid is a hoax, but it was planned. Planned? You want to go that far down the rabbit hole wit Polaris550? Botched lab experiment I can almost believe, but you would think the security at that Wuhan facility would have been extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Planned? You want to go that far down the rabbit hole wit Polaris550? Botched lab experiment I can almost believe, but you would think the security at that Wuhan facility would have been extreme. AC is a mess right now My Question would be if Planned what is the goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted July 20, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: AC is a mess right now My Question would be if Planned what is the goal? To gain better control of the sheep obviously. Edited July 20, 2021 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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