Wildboer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That's as retarded as alt left from Rod... Neal I see the try hard centrist in you is still in tact. This guy is comparable to Leftbook heroes like Zizek imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Wildboer said: I see the try hard centrist in you is still in tact. This guy is comparable to Leftbook heroes like Zizek imo Have you considered his give-a-fuck-o-meter is about as engaged for pronoun use as yours is for the sex of a partner? You really think that forcing me to use language I may not want to isn't fascism? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wildboer said: I see the try hard centrist in you is still in tact. This guy is comparable to Leftbook heroes like Zizek imo Pure I d e o l o g y 5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Have you considered his give-a-fuck-o-meter is about as engaged for pronoun use as yours is for the sex of a partner? You really think that forcing me to use language I may not want to isn't fascism? Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Pure I d e o l o g y It's a very coherent belief that forcing me to use language I do not wish to when describing a person is unjust. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Have you considered his give-a-fuck-o-meter is about as engaged for pronoun use as yours is for the sex of a partner? You really think that forcing me to use language I may not want to isn't fascism? Neal To the alt left, facism isn’t fascism if you agree with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It's a very coherent belief that forcing me to use language I do not wish to when describing a person is unjust. Neal No one should have to force you to not be complete shit, but you're a white guy, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: No one should have to force you to not be complete shit, but you're a white guy, so... Yeah there's no fallacies in that argument.... What a hypocrite hack. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Yeah there's no fallacies in that argument.... What a hypocrite hack. Neal White guys love to pretend being complete shitbags who couldn't care less about respecting people not like them is somehow edgy and rebellious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I mean, of all the dudes here, Neal is the absolute worst when it comes to white privilege and racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Have you considered his give-a-fuck-o-meter is about as engaged for pronoun use as yours is for the sex of a partner? You really think that forcing me to use language I may not want to isn't fascism? Neal That's more like it! I wasn't even talking about pronouns, he gives a fuck about his students and I'm glad to hear he's willing to respect their identities. I also agree the government has no place regulating pronoun use. Forcing you to what? What language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, motonoggin said: White guys love to pretend being complete shitbags who couldn't care less about respecting people not like them is somehow edgy and rebellious. Haha.... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I mean, of all the dudes here, Neal is the absolute worst when it comes to white privilege and racism. Holeo butthurt Batman. I mean it obvious we should just ditch all historical usages of words and define on the fly! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Sometimes it’s more fun to just spectate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Wildboer said: That's more like it! I wasn't even talking about pronouns, he gives a fuck about his students and I'm glad to hear he's willing to respect their identities. I also agree the government has no place regulating pronoun use. Forcing you to what? What language? Forcing me to use a specific pronoun or face punishment from a governmental law. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Sweet fancy Jesus!!!! @xtralettucetomatoe580 Get in here!!!!! I’m agreeing with Neal’s posts too much today!!!!! Did you slip me a roofie this morning????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Forcing me to use a specific pronoun or face punishment from a governmental law. Neal Well yeah, it's speech and shouldn't be regulated, but when asked by a trans person it's best to either respect their request or simply not communicate with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Well yeah, it's speech and shouldn't be regulated, but when asked by a trans person it's best to either respect their request or simply not communicate with them. I concur, however what's best and what's legal are not adjacent in this case... Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev6 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I mean, of all the dudes here, Neal is the absolute worst when it comes to white privilege and racism. But amusingly his job puts him in a place to see more of the world than 3/4 of this site will see in there entire life. Kneel and I don't agree on lots of points but i respect him, and his views a hell of a lot more than you and yours. White privilege is a farm boy who goes to school and busts his ass for a good job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, revkev6 said: But amusingly his job puts him in a place to see more of the world than 3/4 of this site will see in there entire life. Kneel and I don't agree on lots of points but i respect him, and his views a hell of a lot more than you and yours. White privilege is a farm boy who goes to school and busts his ass for a good job. All white people have white privilege and have never experienced racism. The dictionary definition isn't giving proper context and is woefully inadequate to address a much more complex issue. I don't go to the dictionary to get an education about physics. I can find the definition there, but I won't learn anything else. And that's precisely what this appeal to the dictionary definition is designed to do. It allows white people to invoke our privilege and escape from the conversation and refuse to LEARN anything else about the subject. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I like you moto but you’re fucked in the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: I like you moto but you’re fucked in the head X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I like you moto but you’re fucked in the head Woops that's u buddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, motonoggin said: All white people have white privilege and have never experienced racism. The dictionary definition isn't giving proper context and is woefully inadequate to address a much more complex issue. I don't go to the dictionary to get an education about physics. I can find the definition there, but I won't learn anything else. And that's precisely what this appeal to the dictionary definition is designed to do. It allows white people to invoke our privilege and escape from the conversation and refuse to LEARN anything else about the subject. And black people have black privilege.... and the second half of your sentence is absolutely wrong. 100%. It's laughable. There need not be any context, outside of the definition. The usage is encompassed with the listed definition. What it doesn't do is become stretched and morphed into a incorrectly applied definition. Go ahead and make up a word for only whites being racist towards only blacks if you or your movement so desires, but coopting the word racist for that purpose shows how inept and incompetent anyone who follows that idea is. They will, and rightfully so draw the immediate ridicule of the reasonable populace. The appeal to the usages of the word via a dictionary are to show that the word used specifically to reject those defined usages is idiotic and laughable. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Woops that's u buddy Wrong it’s you oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Wrong it’s you oops It's both of you. Oops^2!!! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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