$400M to iran? This community organizer says Trump unprepared? 7yrs for Barry and he still doesn't know what the fuck he's doing!

[1jkw]

6 minutes ago, Momorider said:

Bullshit they have used European banks for other payments in the past  

The US gave Iran, Iran's own money back and it was given in currencies other than US because of the regulations set forth in the sanctions and the fact the US doesn't have a banking agreement with them, and the fact of what you just posted proves it.

[Snake]

19 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

The US gave Iran, Iran's own money back and it was given in currencies other than US because of the regulations set forth in the sanctions and the fact the US doesn't have a banking agreement with them, and the fact of what you just posted proves it.

Justice tried to kibosh it, but State (ahem) over ruled.

Even David Gergan..... quote "If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a duck."

Now tell me... are you more in the know... in the loop... more knowledgeable of the situation than a DEM SYCOPHANT?

Your head is so far up your ass...

[1jkw]

10 minutes ago, Snake said:

Justice tried to kibosh it, but State (ahem) over ruled.

Even David Gergan..... quote "If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a duck."

Now tell me... are you more in the know... in the loop... more knowledgeable of the situation than a DEM SYCOPHANT?

Your head is so far up your ass...

Not near as far as yours is. Please, please tell  how giving something back to its rightful owner money or a possession is paying a ransom, yes justice didn't like it because of the optics.

 

[Momorider]

39 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

The US gave Iran, Iran's own money back and it was given in currencies other than US because of the regulations set forth in the sanctions and the fact the US doesn't have a banking agreement with them, and the fact of what you just posted proves it.

They have used European banks just recently for other payments currency is completely fucking irrelevant, you're a Barry ball licking hack  

[Zambroski]

This is definitely a "where there's smoke..." scenario.  But, it's the Dems so.....THUNDERDOME!

Word is out now no matter how this all went down for whatever reasons: THE UNITED STATES NOW PAYS RANSOMS.  I feel safer...do you?  

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, Momorider said:

They have used European banks just recently for other payments currency is completely fucking irrelevant, you're a Barry ball licking hack  

Well it was reported at the time back in January that the payment was made and that is a fact, so the fact it was cash is really not even relevant, and you are incorrect, and you are a basement dwelling shit eater that lives in a cage and is known to be not only a liar and a fraud, but the mast laughed at and joked about poster on either site, they don't say something is momo dumb for nothing.

[Capt.Storm]

Well back in January when the hostages were released there was no mention of the 400 million going to Iran..why was that?

Same day even!

 

Edited August 4, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[racer254]

Democrats can try and defend this all they want, the bottom line is that the US just gave 400 million that they didn't have to.  Not to mention, we are going to pay the interest as well, thanks to people like Ben Rhodes, Hillary Clinton and Obama.  Great fucking policy.

Edited August 4, 2016 by racer254

[Capt.Storm]

58 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

The US gave Iran, Iran's own money back and it was given in currencies other than US because of the regulations set forth in the sanctions

Tell me why it could not be in US currency in more detail please.

[Capt.Storm]

side issue I just found.

 

 

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John Kerry: Some sanctions relief money for Iran will go to terrorism

When asked about whether some the $150 billion in sanctions relief to Iran would go to terrorist groups, Kerry reiterated that, after settling debts, Iran would receive closer to $55 billion. He conceded some of that could go to groups considered terrorists, saying there was nothing the U.S. could do to prevent that.

"I think that some of it will end up in the hands of the IRGC or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists," he said in the interview in Davos, referring to Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. "You know, to some degree, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that every component of that can be prevented."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/john-kerry-money-iran-sanctions-terrorism/

[1jkw]

10 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Well back in January when the hostages were released there was no mention of the 400 million going to Iran..why was that?

Same day even!

 

Go back and read the article, they explained the 400 million in January.

[1jkw]

7 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Democrats can try and defend this all they want, the bottom line is that the US just gave 400 million that they didn't have to.  Not to mention, we are going to pay the interest as well, thanks to people like Ben Rhodes, Hillary Clinton and Obama.  Great fucking policy.

The 400 million wasn't ours it was the Iranians, and it could have cost more had it been settled in the world court.

[Rod]

Iran used hostages to get their own money back.

yes it was obviously a ransom HOWEVER the U.S. Owed the money.  The truth is in the middle 

[Capt.Storm]

10 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Go back and read the article, they explained the 400 million in January.

yeah..read this.

The payment came just prior to the release by Iran of five U.S. prisoners, prompting claims from some that the $1.7 billion was a ransom payment. Senior officials in Iran have said the money was provided as part of the prisoner swap.

A senior Iranian military commander said Wednesday that the cash settlement was reached as a perk to motivate Iranian authorities to free the imprisoned Americans, who were released over the weekend.

“The annulment of sanctions against Iran’s Bank Sepah and reclaiming of $1.7bln of Iran’s frozen assets after 36 years showed that the US doesn’t understand anything but the language of force,” Mohammad Reza Naqdi, the commander of Iran’s volunteer Basij forces, told the country’s state-controlled press.

“This money was returned for the freedom of the U.S. spy and it was not related to the [nuclear] negotiations,” he said.

Administration officials who spoke to the Free Beacon denied this characterization, saying that the settlement was reached outside of the nuclear agreement and not directly tied to Iran’s release of the five imprisoned Americans.

 

 

 

Critics of the agreement slammed the administration for using taxpayer dollars to appease Iran.

Lee Smith, a Middle East analyst and columnist for the Weekly Standard, accused the White House of paying for Iranian crimes against Americans.

The administration not only paid the settlement but also paid judgments against Iran awarded to U.S. victims of the country’s terrorist operation, Smith told the Free Beacon.

“The Iranian are not paying anything” as a result of these judgments, Smith said. “If they’re not paying anything, then where are the claims coming from?”

“The Iranians are not paying this,” Smith said. “We’re paying twice. We’re paying for that.”

“Obama officials are the last people on earth who are pretending that the $1.7 billion wasn’t a ransom payment,” one foreign policy consultant who has worked with Congress on the nuclear deal told the Free Beacon. “Everyone else knows what happened, which is that we rewarded Iranian hostage takers. The hostage takers certainly aren’t fooled, which is why they’re already looking for more Americans to kidnap. They need to restock.”

There remain outstanding legal claims against the United States by Iran, meaning that future payments could be made as a result of any resulting settlement, according to administration officials.

Meanwhile, Secretary of State John Kerry said money from the Iran deal could end up in the hands of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

“I think that some of [the $55 billion] will end up in the hands of the IRGC or of other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists,” Kerry said.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-admin-paid-iran-1-7-billion-taxpayer-funds/

 

 

Edited August 5, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[racer254]

5 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

The 400 million wasn't ours it was the Iranians, and it could have cost more had it been settled in the world court.

Yeah, right.  Were we worried about it?

[1jkw]

3 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Yeah, right.  Were we worried about it?

It was the Iranians money that is a fact. The nuclear deal hinged on this as well.

[1jkw]

8 minutes ago, Sludgey said:

Iran used hostages to get their own money back.

yes it was obviously a ransom HOWEVER the U.S. Owed the money.  The truth is in the middle 

A ransom is giving something of yours to someone to get something in return, giving something to someone that they already own is not.

[racer254]

3 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

It was the Iranians money that is a fact. The nuclear deal hinged on this as well.

You were fed a line of bullshit from guys like Ben Rhodes.  Look through the smoke and mirrors.

[Capt.Storm]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

It was the Iranians money that is a fact. The nuclear deal hinged on this as well.

How faking much money are we sending them..holy fuck.

U.S. to Award Iran $11.9 Billion Through End of Nuke Talks

Another $490 million released on Tuesday under deal

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BY: Adam Kredo 
January 21, 2015 5:00 am

The Obama administration on Wednesday paid $490 million in cash assets to Iran and will have released a total of $11.9 billion to the Islamic Republic by the time nuclear talks are scheduled to end in June, according to figures provided by the State Department.

Today’s $490 million release, the third such payment of this amount since Dec. 10, was agreed to by the Obama administration under the parameters of another extension in negotiations over Tehran’s contested nuclear program that was inked in November.

Iran will receive a total of $4.9 billion in unfrozen cash assets via 10 separate payments by the United States through June 22, when talks with Iran are scheduled to end with a final agreement aimed at curbing the country’s nuclear work, according to a State Department official.

Iran received $4.2 billion in similar payments under the 2013 interim agreement with the United States and was then given another $2.8 billion by the Obama administration last year in a bid to keep Iran committed to the talks through November, when negotiators parted ways without reaching an agreement.

[Mainecat]

Write to your rep and senator. If you even know who they are.

[Rod]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

A ransom is giving something of yours to someone to get something in return, giving something to someone that they already own is not.

That is not the definition of ransom at all.

[Capt.Storm]

6 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

It was the Iranians money that is a fact. The nuclear deal hinged on this as well.

Why was the Iranian money held to begin with?

[1jkw]

9 minutes ago, racer254 said:

You were fed a line of bullshit from guys like Ben Rhodes.  Look through the smoke and mirrors.

Read the details in WSJ article it explains the 400 million, likely happened before you were born.

[Capt.Storm]

Do we give the money on skids for this,

 

According to our research engine:
The U.S. Government gave a total of $951,399 to Iran in 2012:

Edited August 5, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Capt.Storm]

and yet again the NFL comes into play....you just can't make this shit up. JAN.2016

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/17/iran-getting-1-7b-from-u-s-in-debt-and-interest/

The timing of all this is extremely curious (and coincidental) to the release of the five prisoners being held in Iran. It’s completely possible the U.S decided to settle the claim levied by Iran as just an added assurance the prisoners would come home. That means the settlement could be seen as a form of ransom but is doesn’t mean it is. The timing, though, is just bizarre. From a PR standpoint, you’d think the Obama Administration would be willing to wait a week or a month to announce the deal to avoid any questions, but it’s possible they were hoping it’d slide because of the NFL playoffs. 

Edited August 5, 2016 by Capt.Storm