Art Vandelay

That one new model intro he participated in was embarrassing. Talking about how a grown man like him couldn't handle an adult sled but he liked the blast. Having said that clowns in these positions typically have nothing to do with product development. I'm sure he made the decision that he would help by being in the presentation.

Everyone knew this was coming before they ordered their 24.

18 cat and 84 Enticer. About 7000-7500 miles. Usually do about 1500 a year over 2 4 day riding trips. Live in IN so trailer to best snow we can get to based on time we have. Occasionally go west too and either drag them out or rent. Also take kids to relative's house in Eagle River WI but usually ride sleds they have there since we take the minivan to get there with the kids.

Yeah I wonder the same thing. Haven't ridden either of them yet. Polaris quality seems iffy these days but the cat is brand new and who knows what textron is doing, so who knows what you'll get. By quality that's just my opinion from reading their forums, before someone jumps on that. The gauge doesn't make any difference than me other than I laugh that they call it "deluxe" now in the new chassis when the one on my 06 fusion was better...

I watched his videos before and maybe I should watch them again. I think he said the catalyst riot is a lot better on trail than the procross riot.

That's what I was wondering about. Probably ride my procross one more year and see about something else next year. Probably spend 75% of the time on the trail. Mine is a 137 and I like the 129 my bud has better.

Riot might be tempting in season. Would like to read some more rider reviews on it first though.

I don't know anything about what's going on with him in MN but didn't like the crap he pulled in the UP

Ok got it. Mine is an 18. I can't remember what miles I have on it but I think around 7K.

What year was it? Didn't they redo the pistons around 18 or so because of these issues?

Pence is a robot but if you listen to the whole answer instead of the gotcha moment it's the normal position for big government conservatives (i.e., GWB) who expect the fed govt to fix all our internal problems and police the world.

I might try this too. For some reason it's hard to get it running right in the middle and it sounds like this will make it easy.

I assume by now everyone's mind is made up on this. Is it warming or just cyclical? If so are humans at fault? If so is there anything we can do about it? If so will the chinese counteract anything we can do? Does it help to add more taxes? Does it help for the elites to fly in private jets to meet to discuss how to raise taxes to fix the problem? Why do the biggest proponents of it build enormous houses on the coasts?

I sure hope that's the outcome for cat - getting sold to someone who cares.

I'm guessing textron was part of it - probably cut them off for the new chassis. Unless doo or poo wanted to team up, there was nothing yamaha could do since they abandoned chassis development. Yamaha sold out their whole lineup in hours at ridiculous prices with nothing new other than stickers and then exited the market a few months later. So it's not a demand problem. Dealers were asking for more product.

They also get the sales tax, which is much more than when gas was cheaper.

Lots of issues on the yamaha side as well. No idea why yamacat can't make more units and figure out how to take orders for them.

If cat is losing money it's on textron at this point. The demand is there (and has been the past few years), they just aren't making enough units.

Who is going to riot in miami around spring break?

Why would textron get out now, with something new actually to promote? Or does snowcross have nothing to do with the catalyst.

People are so fat in the US.

The S4 engine must come with an anchor. 100 lb penalty +/- compared to the other Poo 2 strokes. Would have liked to see the Doo 900 and the procross but they only had the sleds in their fleet. Unfortunately textcat hasn't been supporting marketing for several years now. Sounds like it may change now that they are trying again

That won't stop the dems from mandating it.

Good to know. I can't swing one for this season. If I get a new one the year after that I might just keep it for kids to ride.

Mine has 7200 on it. Probably worth little at this point. Probably ride it a couple more seasons.