Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: No we dont. Our govt has operated under a deficit for ever. We dont need them. They arent paying for the military or anything else. Really? Can you point out exactly which part of our govt is paid for by taxes and which part is paid for by loans? We are not "borrowing" 100% of the spending so something has to be paid for. Edited December 1, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Play with Highmark. He's at least humoring you. I don't know why...but, we all have to have something to do. I'm busy. And you're boring. Weird how you come from this superior position of all knowing in regards to economics and politics and cant explain a fucking thing either way. Are you for taxation or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Weird how you come from this superior position of all knowing in regards to economics and politics and cant explain a fucking thing either way. Are you for taxation or not? He's for whatever his perceived enemies are against. Partisan asshats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Really? Can you point out exactly which part of our economy is paid for by taxes and which part is paid for by loans? We are not "borrowing" 100% of the spending. Can you? If you have a credit card @ 5% interest with $1,000,000 on it in purchases an you buy a new yacht for $2,000,000 making your total balance $3,000,000 and you pay the $35 minimum payment how much of that yacht did you pay for with your payment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: He's for whatever his perceived enemies are against. Partisan asshats... No he really knows this shit, he just doesnt want to educate anyone else on it because then they might make informed decisions and he doesnt want to be responsible for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Can you? If you have a credit card @ 5% interest with $1,000,000 on it in purchases an you buy a new yacht for $2,000,000 making your total balance $3,000,000 and you pay the $35 minimum payment how much of that yacht did you pay for with your payment? No I can't anymore than the govt can. Shut the whole thing down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 Nobody is required to pay just the minimum tax rate, or only pay the minimum into social security or medicare. You can always stand by your principle and pay more. Hell people like ben, Jimmy and all the other peabrain idiots don't even have to file to collect social security when they become eligible. They could not collect so that other old people have that, that really need it. My guess is those idiots will most certainly pay the minimum and reap all the rewards of this tax cut while bitching about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: No I can't anymore than the govt can. Shut the whole thing down! Thank you Why do we play this game and why are we arguing about it? This tax cut fucks everybody except the people who are paying to get this tax cut. We should all just stop paying income taxes. Its really the easiest method of protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Nobody is required to pay just the minimum tax rate, or only pay the minimum into social security or medicare. You can always stand by your principle and pay more. Hell people like ben, Jimmy and all the other peabrain idiots don't even have to file to collect social security when they become eligible. They could not collect so that other old people have that, that really need it. My guess is those idiots will most certainly pay the minimum and reap all the rewards of this tax cut while bitching about it. We should all stop paying income taxes. How much more buying power will you have if you dont have to pay income taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Thank you Why do we play this game and why are we arguing about it? This tax cut fucks everybody except the people who are paying to get this tax cut. We should all just stop paying income taxes. Its really the easiest method of protest. I made this suggestion a long time ago. Everyone stop paying taxes. Start a fund that you pay a small % of what you use to pay in taxes into. That is the legal defense and tax fund that pays when they come after you. They can only come after so many a year so the fund wouldn't need to be that large. I actually think your little reverse psychology ploy is amusing. Edited December 1, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: We should all stop paying income taxes. How much more buying power will you have if you dont have to pay income taxes? Nope I will pay taxes according to the law. If I can use my vote to change the law so I pay less I will. First politician thats comes along I think they can get it done and eliminate all income tax they have my vote!!! But nothing in the current laws says you only have to pay the minimum and you must take Social Security or medicare. Those upset by a tax cut can pay more and not use Social Security when they get older or medicare. Simple they can stand by their "principles" instead of attacking those that use their vote to pay less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 33 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Oh right, debt is good. funny how debt was bad when Obama was president but now increased deficit and debt is not an issue. That part i dont understand. He’s an idiot don’t give him a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nope I will pay taxes according to the law. If I can use my vote to change the law so I pay less I will. First politician thats comes along I think they can get it done and eliminate all income tax they have my vote!!! But nothing in the current laws says you only have to pay the minimum and you must take Social Security or medicare. Those upset by a tax cut can pay more and not use Social Security when they get older or medicare. Simple they can stand by their "principles" instead of attacking those that use their vote to pay less! So you dont really need a tax cut then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: So you dont really need a tax cut then? Need?????? No but I want one so I can keep more of my money. Maybe invest it, maybe buy some AR 15's with bump stocks, or make a 2 hour trip to Nevada and have a good time with my tax cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 1, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) I would be able to go from itemizing to just a standard deduction under either tax plan. Would make tax time much more simple. Only thing I would need to do is start lobbying my state to go ditch an income tax to further my tax savings and go to strictly a sales tax. Edited December 1, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 1, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 1, 2017 Damn Ben has been right all along...this Zambro guy really doesn’t say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Damn Ben has been right all along...this Zambro guy really doesn’t say anything. I think he just likes to hear himself type. Nothing but Palin word salad. Keyboard diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Need?????? No but I want one so I can keep more of my money. Maybe invest it, maybe buy some AR 15's with bump stocks, or make a 2 hour trip to Nevada and have a good time with my tax cut. But the devaluation of our currency due to the unsustainable debt negates your savings. Just dont pay taxes. Keep all of your money in cash and dont own anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Damn Ben has been right all along...this Zambro guy really doesn’t say anything. He's neocon Snowrider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Mainecat said: The Democrats will be elected to fix another republican fuckin mess. You mean like North Korea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sal Rosenberg Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Sounds legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, Sal Rosenberg said: Sounds legit Everything on the book is real!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Sounds legit Look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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