f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Weren't mc and snot fingering each other about the trump hooker pee thing pre election? yes they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: yes they were So they were using the dossier pre election hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: So they were using the dossier pre election hmmmm oh yes.....the dossier came out in like june or something........he was way off base there. they didnt push it too hard because it was obvious blatant bullshit with dirty tracks leading back to their little house of cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: oh yes.....the dossier came out in like june or something........he was way off base there. they didnt push it too hard because it was obvious blatant bullshit with dirty tracks leading back to their little house of cards Looks like they were leaking tidbits to CNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Looks like they were leaking tidbits to CNN they gave it to the fbi or some shit and Obama used it as grounds to wire tap trump....the whole thing is dirty as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: they gave it to the fbi or some shit and Obama used it as grounds to wire tap trump....the whole thing is dirty as fuck So they're using the dossier as grounds for warrants and it's proven fake and made at the behest of the DNC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: So they're using the dossier as grounds for warrants and it's proven fake and made at the behest of the DNC... yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Anybody who fell for the pee thing doesn't know much about Trump. He's a germophobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, SSFB said: Anybody who fell for the pee thing doesn't know much about Trump. He's a germophobe. Exactly! He has many faults but that and booze are not among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Part of the problem is that the dossier mixes outrageous stories with possible, if not true information. Separating it out is going to be a long process. Fantastic that it muddies both the rights' and lefts' faces. Neal Edited November 1, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Part of the problem is that the dossier mixes outrageous stories with possible, if not true information. Separating it out is going to be a long process. Fantastic that it muddies both the rights' and lefts' faces. Neal I remember watching morning Joe back before the election when the dossier was getting some play. Tom Brokow was on saying that all the major networks had seen the document and had a few months to look it over and yet none of them ran it which is how it ended up on the rag BuzzFeed. So many basic facts are off that it makes even something that might have merit worthless. Again the real question is did the FBI use the dossier to obtain FISA warrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: I remember watching morning Joe back before the election when the dossier was getting some play. Tom Brokow was on saying that all the major networks had seen the document and had a few months to look it over and yet none of them ran it which is how it ended up on the rag BuzzFeed. So many basic facts are off that it makes even something that might have merit worthless. Again the real question is did the FBI use the dossier to obtain FISA warrants. I can see the intentional torpedoes lobbed at the dossier by the media, as it makes the left look bad as well as the right. We will have to see it all exposed and delineated before claiming it is all incorrect, or was misused for FISA warrant application. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I can see the intentional torpedoes lobbed at the dossier by the media, as it makes the left look bad as well as the right. We will have to see it all exposed and delineated before claiming it is all incorrect, or was misused for FISA warrant application. Neal Bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: Bullshit How so? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: How so? Neal Onus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Onus Bullshit. There is just as much onus to run stories of a completely fabricated (if true) dossier paid for and directed by both political parties. Not reporting it if it's all crap is just as damming and wrong as ignoring it if it contains some truths. Even moreso if it was the base for FISA warrants. Neal Edited November 1, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Bullshit. There is just as much onus to run stories of a completely fabricated (if true) dossier paid for and directed by both political parties. Not reporting it if it's all crap is just as damming and wrong as ignoring it if it contains some truths. Neal If the FISA court gave warrants on unproven information it is a huge problem. Forget Trump for a minute if all you need is a cooked up story to ignore someone's civil rights and preform what amounts to an illegal search, yea that is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: If the FISA court gave warrants on unproven information it is a huge problem. Forget Trump for a minute if all you need is a cooked up story to ignore someone's civil rights and preform what amounts to an illegal search, yea that is a problem. Exactly....not to mention the slanderous nature of such blatantly false info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: If the FISA court gave warrants on unproven information it is a huge problem. Forget Trump for a minute if all you need is a cooked up story to ignore someone's civil rights and preform what amounts to an illegal search, yea that is a problem. We assume the story need be somewhat realistic. A FISA warrant wasn't granted over peegate. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Exactly....not to mention the slanderous nature of such blatantly false info Thus the onus. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 hours ago, f7ben said: name one part of that dossier that was proven true.....and not just his travel times and locations etc Damn, slinger ran away fast after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Damn, slinger ran away fast after this. because he's a disingenuous intellectually dishonest partisan shitbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, racer254 said: Damn, slinger ran away fast after this. No, he's just stepped away for anit to "carb up". He's gonna have another big day here. He has to. The "Manafort" affair has floowed suit with all the other "gotchas" the left has thrown against the wall and his team requires massive narrative spin and defelections. ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: because he's a disingenuous intellectually dishonest partisan shitbag Well, that's not all true. I don't think he's "disingenuous". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Bullshit. There is just as much onus to run stories of a completely fabricated (if true) dossier paid for and directed by both political parties. Not reporting it if it's all crap is just as damming and wrong as ignoring it if it contains some truths. Even moreso if it was the base for FISA warrants. Neal I cant get my head around this Neal Are you saying that anyone with the motivation to damage the reputation of an individual should be able to commission a smear piece and then have that blatantly false information reported in the media and used as the basis for the Feds to investigate that individual? Is that your position here??? Cause if it is I am more shocked and concerned for you than I have ever been in the past. I am almost sure you are having a stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Also the dossier was not paid for by both parties. The R who had hired fusion bailed way way before the dossier when they figured out it was a dead end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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