Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Nope....not even close i honestly think you're 3/4 retarded Edited October 4, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Rww logic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 id like to see someone fire an AR at the same firerate using their finger vs a bump stock. i believe it’s been claimed. 8-10 rounds a second is the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Everyone needs to watch that video for perspective. Who is saying we should make firearms easier to purchase? Seems like a pretty dumb question. some of these clowns, who are saying more guns equals less crimes. think a little dude. if they agree that some restrictions would help, like background checks, long waits, etc why were they against them initially and want to stop even more measures now that may help? Edited October 4, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: id like to see someone fire an AR at the same firerate using their finger vs a bump stock. i believe it’s been claimed. 8-10 rounds a second is the target. how about with a revolver and a reload thrown in the mix Edited October 4, 2017 by Rigid1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: you're still missing my point. i have no problems with guns. what i have a problem with is this mindset that any joe schmoe should be able to just walk into a store and buy an automatic weapon, which is what some of you are implying. But is not what is currently legal or happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 so ben, snoputz, etc. why are you OK with the ban of automatic weapons? 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Rww logic.... holy fuck what an ownage. the same clowns who want to stop a mad man from getting nukes are the same ones ok with a mad man buying weaponry at the local 7-11. someone please explain the logic there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: But is not what is currently legal or happening. i realize that. but some want it to happen. you can't have it both ways here dude. you can't say things like "guns don't kill people, people do" or "more guns equals less crimes" or "we should not try limiting weaponry sales" and then turn around and be OK with things like the ban of automatic weapons. if you are oik with that, then you must agree with the notion of limiting some carnage and that gun laws do help. me? i think people kill people, not guns, but i have absolutely no problems with some gun laws because imo, they help the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: Ummm...didn't you just post a photo? Here's another one idiot http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/03/the-correlation-between-guns-and-homicide-rate.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Wow, It's painful to watch some on here argue against facts using bullshit fake scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 drunk driving has decreased a lot over the years, while beer sales have increased. ben thinks more beer sales equals less drunk driving 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Did the gun change or did society change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i realize that. but some want it to happen. you can't have it both ways here dude. you can't say things like "guns don't kill people, people do" or "more guns equals less crimes" or "we should not try limiting weaponry sales" and then turn around and be OK with things like the ban of automatic weapons. if you are oik with that, then you must agree with the notion of limiting some carnage and that gun laws do help. me? i think people kill people, not guns, but i have absolutely no problems with some gun laws because imo, they help the situation. skidmark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 The Chicago Crime Lab study Cook and colleagues Susan Parker and Harold Pollack at the University of Chicago interviewed 99 inmates of the Cook County Jail in Chicago. They were looking for criminals who were likely to have used a gun or had ready access to one. The authors described the group of participants as "a convenience sample of gun-involved, criminally active men living in greater Chicago." "It is difficult to say how representative they are of the larger population with that description," they wrote. "For that reason, we do not place much emphasis on the statistical results, as opposed to the qualitative patterns that emerged from these data." That said, of the 70 inmates who had possessed a firearm, only 2, or 2.9 percent, had bought it at a gun store. The report found that percentage was in line with the findings of the Chicago Police Department when it traced weapons seized from suspected gang members. (For a glimpse into how guns move through a community, Cook's full article is good reading.) The national data In 2004, the government conducted its periodic Survey of Inmates in State and Federal Correctional Facilities. It found that among inmates who had a gun when they committed their crime (16 percent of all prisoners), about 11 percent had bought the firearm at a retail store, a pawn shop, a flea market or a gun show. Another 37 percent had gotten it from a friend or family member. About 40 percent said they got it illegally on the black market, from a drug dealer or by stealing it. Scarborough said that about "3 percent of murders and crimes are committed with guns from people who actually (legally) purchase those guns." Recent studies that look at prisoners who had a gun when they committed a crime found that between 3 and 11 percent purchased the weapon at a store or gun show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Killer said: Here's another one idiot http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/03/the-correlation-between-guns-and-homicide-rate.html Just what are you exactly trying to prove with this graphic that we have a lot of guns but a very low murder rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 it's no wonder .7ben falls for whacko conspiracies so often. he's got a serious logic flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hmmmm.......look when the murder rate started to jump up then fall back down. Year Homicide rate 1950 4.6 1951 4.4 1952 4.6 1953 4.5 1954 4.2 1955 4.1 1956 4.1 1957 4.0 1958 4.8 1959 4.9 1960 5.1 1961 4.8 1962 4.6 1963 4.6 1964 4.9 1965 5.1 1966 5.6 1967 6.2 1968 6.9 1969 7.3 1970 7.9 1971 8.6 1972 9.0 1973 9.4 1974 9.8 1975 9.6 1976 8.8 1977 8.8 1978 9.0 1979 9.7 1980 10.2 1981 9.8 1982 9.1 1983 8.3 1984 7.9 1985 7.9 1986 8.6 1987 8.3 1988 8.4 1989 8.7 1990 9.4 1991 9.8 1992 9.3 1993 9.5 1994 9.0 1995 8.2 1996 7.4 1997 6.8 1998 6.3 1999 5.7 2000 5.5 2001 5.6 2002 5.6 2003 5.7 2004 5.5 2005 5.9 2006 6.1 2007 5.9 2008 5.4 2009 5.0 2010 4.8 2011 4.7 2012 4.7 2013 4.5 2014 4.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i realize that. but some want it to happen. you can't have it both ways here dude. you can't say things like "guns don't kill people, people do" or "more guns equals less crimes" or "we should not try limiting weaponry sales" and then turn around and be OK with things like the ban of automatic weapons. if you are oik with that, then you must agree with the notion of limiting some carnage and that gun laws do help. me? i think people kill people, not guns, but i have absolutely no problems with some gun laws because imo, they help the situation. Crime and murder is more a societal issue than a gun issue. Countries with far few guns have exponentially more violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Just what are you exactly trying to prove with this graphic that we have a lot of guns but a very low murder rate? Read it dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Myth: People with concealed weapons licenses will commit crimes State 11 Licenses issued Revoked licenses % Revoked Violent Crime Rate Change 12 Florida 1,327,321 13 4,129 0.3% -30.5% Virginia 50,000 14 0 0.0% -21.9% Arizona 63,000 15 50 0.9% -28.7% North Carolina 59,597 16 1,274 1.2% -26.4% Minnesota 46,636 17 12 0.03% 8.0% 18 Michigan 155,000 19 2,178 0.1% 1.4% Fact: The results for the first 30 states that passed “shall-issue” laws for concealed carry licenses are similar. Fact: In Texas, citizens with concealed carry licenses are 14 times less likely to commit a crime. They are also five times less likely to commit a violent crime. 20 Fact: People with concealed carry licenses are: 21 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public 13.5 times less likely to be arrested for non-violent offenses than the general public Fact: Even gun control organizations agree it is a non-problem. One said about Texas, “because there haven’t been Wild West shootouts in the streets”. 22 Fact: Of 14,000 CCW licensees in Oregon, only 4 (0.03%) were convicted of the criminal (not necessarily violent) use or possession of a firearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Killer said: Read it dummy I did read the graph jackass. Its shows exactly what I said. Considering the amount of guns we have an extremely low murder rate. Now take out drug violence and we would be astronomically lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Crime and murder is more a societal issue than a gun issue. Countries with far few guns have exponentially more violence. you're going off topic. do some gun laws help prevent some murders? yes or no please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: you're going off topic. do some gun laws help prevent some murders? yes or no please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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