motonoggin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Why are you even replying. You don't believe in NHC. A true communist society you don't pay for anything and the govt controls nothing because there is no govt. Moto: Hey doc you want to pull out this gerbal, I got some pot to trade ya. Even so I can still understand the basic principles of such a system. Removing capitalism from healthcare would be a major step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, oleroule said: you know THAT isn't going to be a real number. it'll be more like $1.4 trillion / 175 million. that's $8000 / person....not family. the cost of which will end up on the backs of the rich people through taxes and companies who are already paying huge costs for med insurance, no idea why middle class america is so scared of single payer when right now they pay through the nose compared to the rich people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 13, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, oleroule said: you know THAT isn't going to be a real number. it'll be more like $1.4 trillion / 175 million. that's $8000 / person....not family. Yes you are correct. 40% of the country is already on Medicare/Medicaid. They are not getting rid of those programs. $1.4 trillion/ 128 million = $10,937 per person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Yes you are correct. 40% of the country is already on Medicare/Medicaid. They are not getting rid of those programs. $1.4 trillion/ 128 million = $10,937 per person. Cheaper than a lot of policies these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: the cost of which will end up on the backs of the rich people through taxes and companies who are already paying huge costs for med insurance, no idea why middle class america is so scared of single payer when right now they pay through the nose compared to the rich people. you do understand how taxing companies works, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Cheaper than a lot of policies these days. thank you government regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Highmark said: Dude you do realize you don't have to agree with your preferred candidate on everything. I know that is a concept above your head but ask your wife or someone else to explain it to you. No shit.....but increased military spending coupled with lower taxes explodes the debt.....so what issues do you agree with Dump on that support your fiscal conservatism? Edited September 13, 2017 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, oleroule said: thank you government regulation. thank you capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Sleepr2 said: No insurance Comany forced anyone to buy insurance . Imagine if the government mandated everybody had to buy a pair of slippers. And they cost $10,000 for each person. And then imagine if Sleepers Slippers was the only place you could buy them. Would that be good for you? Who wins there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, s pump said: Imagine if the government mandated everybody had to buy a pair of slippers. And they cost $10,000 for each person. And then imagine if Sleepers Slippers was the only place you could buy them. Would that be good for you? Who wins there? Hardly a fair comparison unless from time to time someone fell ill and had to be given those 10k slippers at a much higher cost because they refused to pay for them on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 hours ago, motonoggin said: How pathetic you've become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: How pathetic you've become. Insurance companies wrote the ACA and own the politicians you idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Insurance companies wrote the ACA and own the politicians you idiot. you hate the insurance companies for doing that. do you hate the government for mandating it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, oleroule said: you hate the insurance companies for doing that. do you hate the government for mandating it? here is a clue you fucking idiot ......the insurance companies and the government are basically the same people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, oleroule said: you hate the insurance companies for doing that. do you hate the government for mandating it? Well fuckin duh bro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, oleroule said: you hate the insurance companies for doing that. do you hate the government for mandating it? 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: here is a clue you fucking idiot ......the insurance companies and the government are basically the same people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oleroule Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Well fuckin duh bro... and you call for more government. weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, f7ben said: here is a clue you fucking idiot ......the insurance companies and the government are basically the same people and you call for more government (single payer). weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, oleroule said: and you call for more government (single payer). weird. I'm not happy about it.....but it is the only way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, oleroule said: and you call for more government. weird. I want it burned to the ground but I understand why normies like single payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 14, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 14, 2017 17 hours ago, motonoggin said: Cheaper than a lot of policies these days. $44K for a family of 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 14, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 14, 2017 16 hours ago, SnowRider said: No shit.....but increased military spending coupled with lower taxes explodes the debt.....so what issues do you agree with Dump on that support your fiscal conservatism? I'm not even going to go into the whole tax cuts increase economic growth because I know its beyond your mental capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: $44K for a family of 4? Your numbers are pure bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 14, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: $44K for a family of 4? Hey dipshit - how do other industrialized countries provide better HC on average for less than half the cost per captita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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