Mileage Psycho Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Crusty. Quote GOP dealt stiff blow in Senate's bid to repeal 'Obamacare' WASHINGTON (AP) — Dealing a serious blow to President Donald Trump's agenda, the Senate early Friday rejected a measure to repeal parts of former President Barack Obama's health care law after a night of high suspense in the U.S. Capitol. Unable to pass even a so-called "skinny repeal," it was unclear if Senate Republicans could advance any health bill despite seven years of promises to repeal "Obamacare." "This is clearly a disappointing moment," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "I regret that our efforts were not enough, this time." "It's time to move on," he said. McConnell put the health bill on hold and announced that the Senate would move onto other legislation next week. A key vote to defeat the measure was cast by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who returned to the Senate this week after receiving a diagnosis of brain cancer. In an impassioned speech the day he returned, McCain had called for bipartisanship on major issues of national concern, and a return to the "regular order" of legislating by committee. Three Republicans joined with all Democrats to reject the amendment, which would have repealed a mandate that most individuals get health insurance and suspended a requirement that large companies provide coverage to their employees. It would have also delayed a tax on medical devices and denied funding to Planned Parenthood for a year. The final vote was 49-51. Republicans Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine joined McCain in voting no. The amendment was a last resort for Senate Republicans to pass something — anything — to trigger negotiations with the House. "It's time to turn the page," said Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer of New York. "We are not celebrating. We are relieved." Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price said in a statement the Trump administration would pursue its health care goals through regulation. "This effort will continue," Price said. Buoyed by a signal from House Speaker Paul Ryan, McConnell had introduced a pared-down health care bill late Thursday that he hoped would keep alive Republican ambitions to repeal "Obamacare." McConnell had called his measure the Health Care Freedom Act. It was not intended to become law, but to open a path for a House-Senate conference committee to try to work out comprehensive legislation Congress could pass and send to Trump. The measure would have repealed the unpopular Affordable Care Act requiring most people to have health insurance or risk a fine from the IRS. A similar requirement on larger employers would be suspended for eight years. Additionally it would have denied funding to Planned Parenthood for a year, and suspended for three years a tax on medical device manufacturers. States could seek waivers from consumer protections in the Obama-era law, and individuals could increase the amount they contribute to tax-sheltered health savings accounts for medical expenses. Ryan, R-Wis., seemingly opened a path for McConnell earlier Thursday evening by signaling a willingness to negotiate a more comprehensive bill with the Senate. Some Republican senators had been concerned that the House would simply pass the "skinny bill" and send it to Trump. That would have sent a shock wave through health insurance markets, spiking premiums. Ryan sent senators a statement saying that if "moving forward" requires talks with the Senate, the House would be "willing" to do so. But shortly afterward, his words received varied responses from three GOP senators who'd insisted on a clear commitment from Ryan. "Not sufficient," said McCain, who returned to the Capitol Tuesday. The 80-year-old McCain had been home in Arizona trying to decide on treatment options for brain cancer. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., initially said "not yet" when asked if he was ready to vote for the scaled-back Senate bill. But later, he told reporters that Ryan had assured him and others in a phone conversation that the House would hold talks with the Senate. "I feel comfortable personally. I know Paul; he's a man of his word," said Graham. The convoluted developments played out as a divided Senate debated legislation to repeal and replace the Obama-era law. With Democrats unanimously opposed, the slender 52-48 GOP majority was divided among itself over what it could agree to. After a comprehensive bill failed on the Senate floor, and a straight-up repeal failed too, McConnell and his top lieutenants turned toward the "skinny repeal." It would have been the ticket to negotiations with the House, which passed its own legislation in May. But that strategy caused consternation among GOP senators after rumors began to surface that the House might just pass the "skinny bill," call it a day and move on to other issues like tax reform after frittering away the first six months of Trump's presidency on unsuccessful efforts over health care. Ryan responded not long after with a far from definitive statement that blamed the Senate for being unable to pass anything, but said, "if moving forward requires a conference committee, that is something the House is willing to do." "The reality, however, is that repealing and replacing Obamacare still ultimately requires the Senate to produce 51 votes for an actual plan," he said. The insurance company lobby group, America's Health Insurance Plans, wrote to Senate leaders Thursday saying that ending Obama's requirement that people buy insurance without strengthening insurance markets would produce "higher premiums, fewer choices for consumers and fewer people covered next year." And a bipartisan group of governors including John Kasich of Ohio and Brian Sandoval of Nevada also announced against it. On their own, the changes in the skinny bill could roil insurance markets. Yet the scenario at hand, with senators trying to pass something while hoping it does not clear the House or become law, was highly unusual. "We're in the twilight zone of legislating," said Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri. ____ Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Stephen Ohlemacher and Kevin Freking contributed to this report. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-dealt-stiff-blow-in-senates-bid-to-repeal-obamacare/ar-AAoTF7i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted July 28, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 28, 2017 Leadership from Dump the great negotiator. He talked to McCain via phone moments before he voted and John to Dump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Maybe they will work with the Dems and fix Obamacare.... HAHAHAHA nahhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: it's Zamski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Maybe they will work with the Dems and fix Obamacare.... HAHAHAHA nahhh. What's to fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Now can we be done with it? Good. Let Obamacare ride! it's good! "Legacy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 hours ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Maybe they will work with the Dems and fix Obamacare.... HAHAHAHA nahhh. That would be the simplest thing to do, they know what's wrong with Obamacare so why not just fix and move on. 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: Now can we be done with it? Good. Let Obamacare ride! it's good! "Legacy". What's funny is you think you're winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted July 28, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 28, 2017 Hero of the Stupid Perfect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: That would be the simplest thing to do, they know what's wrong with Obamacare so why not just fix and move on. What's funny is you think you're winning I am winning! I always WIN!!!! Losing is for liberals. Because to them...it's winning! Truth of it is, Trump winning fucked me up for a while. I was prepared for the lying cunt....and all the precious giving hands of the government. Was gonna get me some of that cheese!!!! Oh well, guess I have to win the old fashioned non-libtard way...with work and dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: Hero of the Stupid Perfect Does Ballsack shave his Ballsack for you? Or do you pull those coily little Italians out of your teeth before dinner? Chin yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 59 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I am winning! I always WIN!!!! Losing is for liberals. Because to them...it's winning! Truth of it is, Trump winning fucked me up for a while. I was prepared for the lying cunt....and all the precious giving hands of the government. Was gonna get me some of that cheese!!!! Oh well, guess I have to win the old fashioned non-libtard way...with work and dignity. That's some funny shit right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Stiff Blow. That's hot. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 McCain is a traitor what a POS , like there was even a quetion. The guy is a poster child of term limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Cold War said: Stiff Blow. That's hot. . What do you think about page 1 on Drudge, super hot, smokin hot? I just noticed that Drudge is reporting Trumps approval rating at 41%, is that fake news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Letting obunga care fail is smart IMO. And its not far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Momorider said: McCain is a traitor what a POS , like there was even a quetion. The guy is a poster child of term limits Momo the coward in hiding calling McCain a traitor, Momo lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: What do you think about page 1 on Drudge, super hot, smokin hot? I just noticed that Drudge is reporting Trumps approval rating at 41%, is that fake news? Yeah, I guess MC Cain is alright looking guy............If that's what your into. Smoking hot may be a little over the top. I'm more of a Katy Perry kind of guy. It should be at zero, until he does what he promised. Edited July 28, 2017 by Cold War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: Momo the coward in hiding calling McCain a traitor, Momo lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean. ballsack you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Momorider said: McCain is a traitor what a POS , like there was even a quetion. The guy is a poster child of term limits Literally none of this applies to you nook... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Momorider said: McCain is a traitor what a POS , like there was even a quetion. The guy is a poster child of term limits John McCain prefers Presidents who weren't captured by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 5 hours ago, racer254 said: What's to fix? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Literally none of this applies to you nook... You know nothing about me pawn so maybe just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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