They say this now but if something bad happens to them or someone in their family watch how fast that gets reversed/overturned.

They say this influx of immigration under Biden is the biggest in US history.

 

I'm actually for leaving these "sanctuary cities" as such.  All illegals can go about their business inside them.  They step foot out and they get the fucking boot.  Let the big city shitholes earn what they've worked so hard for...crime and destruction.

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

I'm actually for leaving these "sanctuary cities" as such.  All illegals can go about their business inside them.  They step foot out and they get the fucking boot.  Let the big city shitholes earn what they've worked so hard for...crime and destruction.

yep. give them what they so desperate;y preach for. give it a year . completely 'defund the police ' for that state too. and take away all firearms.

they will flip red in no time . be sewing back on there dicks and stuff .

3 hours ago, Jerry 976 said:

They say this now but if something bad happens to them or someone in their family watch how fast that gets reversed/overturned.

that's what needs to happen

Slippery slope having states make the decision to not help the federal govt when completing their constitutional duties.   I think the fed govt should have the right to withhold federal money from the state.   If a federal assault weapons ban put in place I'm sure these state wouldn't like border states saying to the feds they won't participate and allow sales of them anyway.

This kind of all started with drugs.   States legalizing drugs that the fed govt banned was the start.  I like power in the hands of the state but immigration is one that the fed govt must be involved.  

Every state should send their illegals to these sanctuary states, counties and cities.   You want them you get them. 

Edited December 11, 2024Dec 11 by Highmark

Just now, Highmark said:

Slippery slope having states make the decision to not help the federal govt when completing their constitutional duties.   I think the fed govt should have the right to withhold federal money from the state.   If a federal assault weapons ban put in place I'm sure these state wouldn't like states saying to the feds they won't participate and allow sales of them anyway.

This kind of all started with drugs.   States legalizing drugs that the fed govt banned was the start. 

 

exactly. legalize something that has to be smuggled from another country across our border. 

22 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Slippery slope having states make the decision to not help the federal govt when completing their constitutional duties.   I think the fed govt should have the right to withhold federal money from the state.   If a federal assault weapons ban put in place I'm sure these state wouldn't like border states saying to the feds they won't participate and allow sales of them anyway.

This kind of all started with drugs.   States legalizing drugs that the fed govt banned was the start.  I like power in the hands of the state but immigration is one that the fed govt must be involved.  

Every state should send their illegals to these sanctuary states, counties and cities.   You want them you get them. 

States will in turn capture federal tax receipts if fed funding is withheld. 

3 hours ago, spin_dry said:

States will in turn capture federal tax receipts if fed funding is withheld. 

Like how?

San Diego hasn’t learned its lesson yet so let them take ‘em all. Ship them there with the prerequisite that they stay there. 

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Like how?

Withhold payments on intermingled projects. Truth is, all the major blue states like Illinois, California, New York, Washington state pay far more in federal taxes than what they receive in return from the federal government. The red states suck up more of the federal money. 

1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

Withhold payments on intermingled projects. Truth is, all the major blue states like Illinois, California, New York, Washington state pay far more in federal taxes than what they receive in return from the federal government. The red states suck up more of the federal money. 

Intermingled projects?   So the fed govt simply cancels it.   

As I stated before just keep sending them to the sanctuary areas and it ends in a hurry.

2 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Withhold payments on intermingled projects. Truth is, all the major blue states like Illinois, California, New York, Washington state pay far more in federal taxes than what they receive in return from the federal government. The red states suck up more of the federal money. 

The states you listed receive some of the most federal aid and they are also the most in debt. 

California 520 Billion in Debt

NY 368 Billion in Debt

Illinois 159 Billion in Debt

Wash.  90 Billion in Debt.

Fabulous states!!!!  They look at federal funding as a percentage of their annual revenue when they try and say Blue stats pay more.  Base it on federal funding total dollars. California got 11+%, NY got 5.7%

 

Edited December 11, 2024Dec 11 by racer254

14 minutes ago, racer254 said:

The states you listed receive some of the most federal aid and they are also the most in debt. 

California 520 Billion in Debt

NY 368 Billion in Debt

Illinois 159 Billion in Debt

Wash.  90 Billion in Debt.

Fabulous states!!!!  They look at federal funding as a percentage of their annual revenue when they try and say Blue stats pay more.  Base it on federal funding total dollars. California got 11+%, NY got 5.7%

 

Red states are net sucks of federal dollars. If it weren’t for some of the high dollar blue states, the methheads of red states would be eating shit and drinking piss to survive. 

Just now, spin_dry said:

Red states are net sucks of federal dollars. If it weren’t for some of the high dollar blue states, the methheads of red states would be eating shit and drinking piss to survive. 

Such a disingenuous statement.  Add up all the federal dollars by state and who they are run by and post it.  No percentages, just actual dollars.

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Such a disingenuous statement.  Add up all the federal dollars by state and who they are run by and post it.  No percentages, just actual dollars.

The blue stares I posted pay in more federal dollars than they receive. Conversely most of the red states take more tha. They receive. Blue states are paying to feed red states. Truth. 

4 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

The blue stares I posted pay in more federal dollars than they receive. Conversely most of the red states take more tha. They receive. Blue states are paying to feed red states. Truth. 

That is false statement.  There are all kinds of articles explaining why.  If you look at the top 10 they are add up to about the same.  Can you list the blue states, then list the federal dollars they get.  CA and IL get about 100 billion.

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9 minutes ago, racer254 said:

That is false statement.  There are all kinds of articles explaining why.  If you look at the top 10 they are add up to about the same.  Can you list the blue states, then list the federal dollars they get.  CA and IL get about 100 billion.

Blah blah blah. All kinds of articles. 

10 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Blah blah blah. All kinds of articles. 

It's ok for you to admit when you are incorrect.  You are incorrect.

Now it’s true that the average taxpayer in blue states pays a higher per capita income tax than the average taxpayer in red states. But that’s because those states — particularly Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and California — have more rich people. Don’t the Democrats want the rich paying their fair share?

As for blue states allegedly getting back less, what numbers are they looking at? It is true that red states receive 35.75 percent on average of their budgets from the federal government, while blue states receive 30.80 percent. But this is because the blue states’ budgets are far larger due to all the bloat and waste. The 10 states in the best fiscal condition are almost all red states. The 10 states with the worst numbers in the red are almost all blue states. 

The higher the taxes, the more mismanaged a state is. CNBC examined the infrastructure of every state — roads, airports, water systems and ports — and found that the places with the worst-rated infrastructure are six Democratic states, which also rank among the highest in taxes collected per resident: Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York.

9 minutes ago, racer254 said:

It's ok for you to admit when you are incorrect.  You are incorrect.

Now it’s true that the average taxpayer in blue states pays a higher per capita income tax than the average taxpayer in red states. But that’s because those states — particularly Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and California — have more rich people. Don’t the Democrats want the rich paying their fair share?

As for blue states allegedly getting back less, what numbers are they looking at? It is true that red states receive 35.75 percent on average of their budgets from the federal government, while blue states receive 30.80 percent. But this is because the blue states’ budgets are far larger due to all the bloat and waste. The 10 states in the best fiscal condition are almost all red states. The 10 states with the worst numbers in the red are almost all blue states. 

The higher the taxes, the more mismanaged a state is. CNBC examined the infrastructure of every state — roads, airports, water systems and ports — and found that the places with the worst-rated infrastructure are six Democratic states, which also rank among the highest in taxes collected per resident: Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York.

Graph of those that pay and those that suck. Red state=suck

 

 

Remember your arguing with a guy that lives in a van, you can't win.

4 minutes ago, dsupercat said:

Remember your arguing with a guy that lives in a van, you can't win.

Oh, he knows exactly what I say it 100% correct.  When you have a mismanaged state, with bloated budgets and high taxes, this will always happen.  That is why it is constantly said without actually using the real actual dollars, just percentages.

15 hours ago, spin_dry said:

States will in turn capture federal tax receipts if fed funding is withheld. 

OH!  Big city shithole chess!  I'll play!

-All supplies going in via federal and state highways, airways and waterways immediantly cease.

Your turn.

10 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Withhold payments on intermingled projects. Truth is, all the major blue states like Illinois, California, New York, Washington state pay far more in federal taxes than what they receive in return from the federal government. The red states suck up more of the federal money. 

Crap.  This selective info has been debunked for some time.  It's liberal rag narrative fodder.

Edited December 12, 2024Dec 12 by Zambroski

7 hours ago, Zambroski said:

OH!  Big city shithole chess!  I'll play!

-All supplies going in via federal and state highways, airways and waterways immediantly cease.

Your turn.

Crap.  This selective info has been debunked for some time.  It's liberal rag narrative fodder.

Red states have a been a financial suck on the federal government for as far back as I can recall. Liberal blacks call federal aid welfare. Conservative whites call it benefits.  

28 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Red states have a been a financial suck on the federal government for as far back as I can recall. Liberal blacks call federal aid welfare. Conservative whites call it benefits.  

They all call it "welfare".  And many red states have a large percentage of blacks and other minorities soaking it up.  Especially in the SE.

Now, what was your chess move?  Or, can I claim "Check Mate"?  Yeah.