"Legacy" media.

[Highmark]

Trump talking about not letting them in the White House press room.   While a dramatic step I think its more than warranted.   First they lied about him for 9 years.   Yes lied about him....I don't want to hear the shit about they were just doing their job.   They went above and beyond doing everything they could to get him defeated twice, not let him get his policies thru and worst of all get him impeached and imprisoned.

People can claim whatever they want but Trump did some very good things in his first term and the media had an extraordinarily small positive story percentage on him compared to other Presidents...even others they hated like GWB.   

If Trump does this they have nobody to blame but themselves.   Trump would just be shutting the casket....they put themselves in it.

What's hilarious is the likes of The Morning Joe trying (poorly) to act like they want to turn the page and be less biased.    

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/unprecedented-positive-media-for-harris-89-negative-for-trump/ar-AA1p44yn

That assessment comes from the latest review of network news from the conservative watchdog, the Media Research Center, which found that 84% of the coverage of Harris has been positive, while 89% of Trump’s has been negative on CBS, NBC, and ABC.

“Not only has Harris received 66% more airtime than former President Donald Trump, but the spin of Harris’s coverage has been more positive (84%) than any other major party nominee, even as Trump’s coverage has been nearly entirely hostile (89% negative),” according to the new report shared with Secrets.

“Add it all up, and the networks have granted the combined Democratic ticket of Harris-Walz 82% positive press, while Trump-Vance have faced 90% negative coverage,” author Rich Noyes wrote.

The media’s cheerleading has continued into this week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago, where the pro-Harris coverage will reach a peak.

[Deephaven]

9 minutes ago, Highmark said:

First they lied about him for 9 years.   Yes lied about him....I don't want to hear the shit about they were just doing their job.   

To be fair that has been their job since the beginning of the media.  They used to be more subtle about it, but there was always the case of pushing ones agenda.  There just used to be an art to it instead of so direct.  Would surely be more compelling to have balance and have multiple sides present their rhetoric of what they are witnessing but somehow one side completely slipped off the table and disappeared in the media leaving it almost single sided.  That's good for no one.  Love the approach of kicking them all out, but imagine that instead it will be documented the other direction.  What should happen is just factual recording and sharing but I have zero faith that will ever exist again.

[racer254]

Screw em.  They made their bed, and until they prove different, lock them out.

[Highmark]

28 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

To be fair that has been their job since the beginning of the media.  They used to be more subtle about it, but there was always the case of pushing ones agenda.  There just used to be an art to it instead of so direct.  Would surely be more compelling to have balance and have multiple sides present their rhetoric of what they are witnessing but somehow one side completely slipped off the table and disappeared in the media leaving it almost single sided.  That's good for no one.  Love the approach of kicking them all out, but imagine that instead it will be documented the other direction.  What should happen is just factual recording and sharing but I have zero faith that will ever exist again.

Some fair points there but look just back to the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal.   The media covered it.   No they didn't push Clinton should or shouldn't be impeached but they covered it even the details like Clinton asked his Secretary and Lewinsky to lie on an affidavit.  Trump they pushed a knowingly false narrative pushing for impeachment.   Now look at how they cover Trump vs. Biden.   Biden has had massive scandals and massive failures in governing....media now rather doesn't cover it at all or covers for him.  Worse yet the bureaucracy covers and lies for the left.   They just use clever words or phrases such as "looks like Russian disinformation."  For God's sake they covered and lied about his cognitive decline until they were absolutely forced after the debate.   Even then they didn't call for his resignation.  They pushed a number of times to knock Trump out via the 25th. 

"Use to be more subtle about it" might be the biggest true understatement I've ever heard.   Nice job with that by the way.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Highmark

[Highmark]

8 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Screw em.  They made their bed, and until they prove different, lock them out.

Lock em out and destroy them.   That's what they deserve.  

[akvanden]

They should only let in loyalists and give them scripted questions. It just goes smoother this way and is healthier. Biden should do it too for the rest of his term, his press secretary struggles sometimes with honest questions, and we don’t want that.

[EvilBird]

2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

They should only let in loyalists and give them scripted questions. It just goes smoother this way and is healthier. 

Thats what they have done Biden's whole term you fucking retard . 

[Deephaven]

2 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Thats what they have done Biden's whole term you fucking retard . 

And you are pissed about it, yet you want Trump to do the same.

[Deephaven]

13 minutes ago, Highmark said:

"Use to be more subtle about it" might be the biggest true understatement I've ever heard.   Nice job with that by the way.

Are you refuting that they have always been biased or that they've always been super obvious?  I can't tell what part of subtle you are taking offense at.

[akvanden]

Just now, EvilBird said:

Thats what they have done Biden's whole term. 

Oh really. Who’s not allowed in?

 

[EvilBird]

3 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

And you are pissed about it, yet you want Trump to do the same.

No I dont. 

I want all MSM destroyed . They are useless liars. 

Dont have a problem with real investigative journalists in the MSM but that hasn't existed for quite some time.  

5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Oh really. Who’s not allowed in?

 

Alex Jones, Tucker, Jimmy Dore, plenty of others dipshit. 

[ViperGTS/Z1]

Fuk MSM..... enemy of the people.... Trump has had them pegged for a long long time and he was right 

[akvanden]

2 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Alex Jones, Tucker, Jimmy Dore, plenty of others

They've never participated in official press briefings as official press correspondents, under ANY administration. Alex Jones is probably looking for a job though, maybe he can become one?

[Highmark]

8 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Are you refuting that they have always been biased or that they've always been super obvious?  I can't tell what part of subtle you are taking offense at.

"To be fair that has been their job since the beginning of the media.  They used to be more subtle about it, but there was always the case of pushing ones agenda."

Its been their job to be biased since the beginning of media?   Not sure how accurate that is.

I'm agreeing with that had been subtly biased and deployed an art to it previously.   I was just comparing that to now.  Maybe I should have phrased it better.  

[Highmark]

25 minutes ago, akvanden said:

They should only let in loyalists and give them scripted questions. It just goes smoother this way and is healthier. Biden should do it too for the rest of his term, his press secretary struggles sometimes with honest questions, and we don’t want that.

There is a big difference between an investigative media and a completely over the top biased one not out to report but influence and destroy.  

[Deephaven]

10 minutes ago, Highmark said:

"To be fair that has been their job since the beginning of the media.  They used to be more subtle about it, but there was always the case of pushing ones agenda."

Its been their job to be biased since the beginning of media?   Not sure how accurate that is.

I'm agreeing with that had been subtly biased and deployed an art to it previously.   I was just comparing that to now.  Maybe I should have phrased it better.  

Ah, that is more clear.  I expect you to have a logical point unlike many others.  As for their job.  No matter where you work your job is to appeal to your boss.  If that boss has strong views and you ignore them it will not help your career.  There was a time when news did a much better job about not highlighting their bias, but they've always had it.  Now whether it be the old mainstream media or the new it is solely to shove their bias down your throat.

[akvanden]

8 minutes ago, Highmark said:

There is a big difference between an investigative media and a completely over the top biased one not out to report but influence and destroy.  

And drawing that subjective line is where the problem lies. In Russia or China, not an issue. 

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by akvanden

[mnstang]

If they are shown to knowing and purposefully lie, which they have, they are no longer news sources, just propaganda arms of the establishment.  They don't need to be in the white house, I support this.

DRAIN THE SWAMP 

[mnstang]

15 minutes ago, Highmark said:

There is a big difference between an investigative media and a completely over the top biased one not out to report but influence and destroy.  

Right.  There were many huge problems during the Biden tenure and if it were Trump, corporate media would be absolutely losing their minds like have never seen.  But with Biden, they don't even talk about it.  It is just propaganda.

Trump should also put an end to pharma advertising, like the rest of the world has done.  That would end these pathetic institutions pretty quick.  They don't just pay for commercials, that's not even the point.  They pay because they know if 78% of your revenue comes from this entity, they will never ever put them in a bad light.  We all saw this during covid.  They control the narrative.  To report anything negative would be financial suicide for these propaganda networks.  You don't bite the hand that feeds.

[Zambroski]

2 hours ago, Highmark said:

Trump talking about not letting them in the White House press room.   While a dramatic step I think its more than warranted.   First they lied about him for 9 years.   Yes lied about him....I don't want to hear the shit about they were just doing their job.   They went above and beyond doing everything they could to get him defeated twice, not let him get his policies thru and worst of all get him impeached and imprisoned.

People can claim whatever they want but Trump did some very good things in his first term and the media had an extraordinarily small positive story percentage on him compared to other Presidents...even others they hated like GWB.   

If Trump does this they have nobody to blame but themselves.   Trump would just be shutting the casket....they put themselves in it.

What's hilarious is the likes of The Morning Joe trying (poorly) to act like they want to turn the page and be less biased.    

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/unprecedented-positive-media-for-harris-89-negative-for-trump/ar-AA1p44yn

That assessment comes from the latest review of network news from the conservative watchdog, the Media Research Center, which found that 84% of the coverage of Harris has been positive, while 89% of Trump’s has been negative on CBS, NBC, and ABC.

“Not only has Harris received 66% more airtime than former President Donald Trump, but the spin of Harris’s coverage has been more positive (84%) than any other major party nominee, even as Trump’s coverage has been nearly entirely hostile (89% negative),” according to the new report shared with Secrets.

“Add it all up, and the networks have granted the combined Democratic ticket of Harris-Walz 82% positive press, while Trump-Vance have faced 90% negative coverage,” author Rich Noyes wrote.

The media’s cheerleading has continued into this week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago, where the pro-Harris coverage will reach a peak.

This should be implemented.  They are no longer journalists anymore.  There needs to be a new set of credentials issued to the news orgs now.  That's just a fact.

[Zambroski]

1 hour ago, akvanden said:

And drawing that subjective line is where the problem lies. In Russia or China, not an issue. 

 

 

 

How's it a subjective line at all?  Either you have documented proof of FACT, or you do not.  Speculatory and editorial reporting is the norm now while hiding behind "Freedom of the Press" because they don't understand what it meant.

[Jerry 976]

[akvanden]

3 hours ago, Zambroski said:

How's it a subjective line at all?  Either you have documented proof of FACT, or you do not.

Facts, no feelings?

Example: News reports Trumps new tariffs will hurt the economy. Do you get booted for that?

[Deephaven]

4 hours ago, Zambroski said:

How's it a subjective line at all?  Either you have documented proof of FACT, or you do not.  Speculatory and editorial reporting is the norm now while hiding behind "Freedom of the Press" because they don't understand what it meant.

You are the king of speculatory commentary on here...

[mnstang]

1 hour ago, akvanden said:

Facts, no feelings?

Example: News reports Trumps new tariffs will hurt the economy. Do you get booted for that?

News shouldn't be drawing conclusions.  Saying it will hurt the economy is the conclusion they've drawn which could be biased, lacking info and knowledge on the subject, and ultimately can be misleading.  They should just be presenting information on things that are happening.