Sounds as though Polaris is bringing more whupass this year...

“Check out the new purpose built 600 Patriot cross country engine with 8% more power, 3 stage electronic EVs, 4 injector setup like the boost, more stator power, smart hand warmers, ability to run 7s gauge, and more – very excited for these upgrades!”

https://snowgoer.com/news/polaris-unveils-2025-race-snowmobiles-one-with-a-new-engine/32661/

 

 

Looks like poo doesn't need a 650 anymore.

Sweet! The 4 injector system worked like a dream on the Dragon 600. 
 

Why are they mentioning the Iron Dog when “no one cares about it”? 

 

Polaris Unveils 2025 Race Snowmobiles, One With A New Engine

August 21, 2024By John Prusak

More power: Who doesn’t want that, especially in cross-country snowmobile racing?! Well that’s what Polaris is promising in a cryptic release of its 2025 600 Indy Cross Country race sled. It also unveiled a lesser-changed 2025 Polaris 600R snocross-focused race sled.

The 2025 Polaris 600R (left) and 600 Indy Cross-Country (right) were unveiled on August 21.

The actual press material from Polaris were rather empty – as you can see in the press release that we share below in its entirety. There is talk of a new engine that makes 8 percent more power, but no details on how it gained that power. An eblast sent viewers to a page featuring videos on the 2024 race sleds, but not much content on the 2025s. Polaris social media post about the race sleds directed viewers to a page where you can see who is on the race team but not a mention of the sleds.

We’re motorheads, folks – we want some real details!

However, after some poking around we did learn a bit more.

Specifically, the Hetteen Heritage race team (and with a name like that, you know they’re tied into the factory) posted this on their social media page:

“Check out the new purpose built 600 Patriot cross country engine with 8% more power, 3 stage electronic EVs, 4 injector setup like the boost, more stator power, smart hand warmers, ability to run 7s gauge, and more – very excited for these upgrades!”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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They got a taste of the dog in them and now they want more.

Sled dog, that is

4 hours ago, AK440 said:

Sweet! The 4 injector system worked like a dream on the Dragon 600. 
 

Why are they mentioning the Iron Dog when “no one cares about it”? 

actually yes 4 injector worked good on 600.

 

1 hour ago, X2700 said:

5 hours ago, AK440 said:

Sweet! The 4 injector system worked like a dream on the Dragon 600. 
 

Why are they mentioning the Iron Dog when “no one cares about it”? 

actually yes 4 injector worked good on 600.

 

The fuck it did!  Yeah bro, the CFI-4 system was so good they dropped it for CFI-2 in 2010. 

13 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

Sounds as though Polaris is bringing more whupass this year...

“Check out the new purpose built 600 Patriot cross country engine with 8% more power, 3 stage electronic EVs, 4 injector setup like the boost, more stator power, smart hand warmers, ability to run 7s gauge, and more – very excited for these upgrades!”

https://snowgoer.com/news/polaris-unveils-2025-race-snowmobiles-one-with-a-new-engine/32661/

 

 

Definitely betting it will be formidable.

Lets hope we get to see these things run somewhere besides a slushy lake

8 minutes ago, Premium said:

Definitely betting it will be formidable.

Lets hope we get to see these things run somewhere besides a slushy lake

I think it'll be the sled to beat this winter in Pro, Semi-Pro, and Sport.

Polaris has been building that sled to kick ass and take names.  They are there to win.

Edited August 23, 2024Aug 23 by racinfarmer

46 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

I think it'll be the sled to beat this winter in Pro, Semi-Pro, and Sport.

Polaris has been building that sled to kick ass and take names.  They are there to win.

From the non farmer, non racers mouth. Got it!

30 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

From the non farmer, non racers mouth. Got it!

So was that your relatives equipment auction not too long ago?

21 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

So was that your relatives equipment auction not too long ago?

My dad bought it all for me so I can start a cow farm. Hopefully it is autographed 

8 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

My dad bought it all for me so I can start a cow farm. Hopefully it is autographed 

Did he run out of money?  The one tractor was re-sold this week due to a non-paying bidder.

1 hour ago, racinfarmer said:

Did he run out of money?  The one tractor was re-sold this week due to a non-paying bidder.

Yeah he found out I sent my snowmobile seat to get a custom cover put on and freaked out and cut me off. All bull shit aside Polaris has been chipping away at cat’s dominance at xc racing. They have a stacked team of riders that have been nipping at cat for the last couple years. Skidoo will be the wild card with Wes involved in it now. Zach will still be the one to beat if they got their shit together with the sled. 

15 hours ago, mnstang said:

They got a taste of the dog in them and now they want more.

Sled dog, that is

8 hours ago, Premium said:

Definitely betting it will be formidable.

Lets hope we get to see these things run somewhere besides a slushy lake

they were quite fast on the lake on the big end last year by all accounts, but so was a few of the Doo's

8 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

I think it'll be the sled to beat this winter in Pro, Semi-Pro, and Sport.

Polaris has been building that sled to kick ass and take names.  They are there to win.

they've made changes every season since going to the Matryx chassis, the mill upgrades are surprisingly substantial.  look forward to some terrain racing results with Herf on the new rig. 

7 hours ago, ZR6000RR said:

From the non farmer, non racers mouth. Got it!

oh good, Killjoy is back!  

 

11 hours ago, AK440 said:

The fuck it did!  Yeah bro, the CFI-4 system was so good they dropped it for CFI-2 in 2010. 

The fuck, it did.  Yeah bro, the cfi-2 system was so good they dropped it for cfi-4 in 2025. 

13 hours ago, AK440 said:

The fuck it did!  Yeah bro, the CFI-4 system was so good they dropped it for CFI-2 in 2010. 

Always changing to make things better but the 2009 600 dragon I had ripped and fuel mileage was great!!!

 

now the 800 was a completely different story but that had more going on than injection issues!!

I guess don’t believe everything you read!!

have you ridden a sled?

 

45 minutes ago, X2700 said:

have you ridden a sled?

 

 

he has...

poor dog... 

damn' Polaris test rider... 

I wonder how many jugs of windshield piss each racer gets from Polaris to put in their gas tanks? 

7 hours ago, X2700 said:

Always changing to make things better but the 2009 600 dragon I had ripped and fuel mileage was great!!!

 

now the 800 was a completely different story but that had more going on than injection issues!!

I guess don’t believe everything you read!!

have you ridden a sled?

 

The CFI-4 was plagued with mapping and run ability issues. Polaris couldn’t get it figured out and because they half ass copied Ski-doo’s SDI design but not the good parts due to the patent they shit canned it for CFI-2. 
 

18 minutes ago, AK440 said:

The CFI-4 was plagued with mapping and run ability issues. Polaris couldn’t get it figured out and because they half ass copied Ski-doo’s SDI design but not the good parts due to the patent they shit canned it for CFI-2. 
 

Did you read about that on the internet?

10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

they were quite fast on the lake on the big end last year by all accounts, but so was a few of the Doo's

they've made changes every season since going to the Matryx chassis, the mill upgrades are surprisingly substantial.  look forward to some terrain racing results with Herf

 

Yeah I'm curious to see if the Cat boys find some more speed on the Catalyst, for the lake races in particular.

5 hours ago, mnstang said:

Did you read about that on the internet?

If you actually had any riding buddies and rode sleds you’d know all about it. 

45 minutes ago, AK440 said:

If you actually had any riding buddies and rode sleds you’d know all about it. 

Some day!

Just listened to the latest Shoptalk Podcast episode (#48) and heard some interesting info. Many are aware the 2015 rules mandating consumer available 600s running 91 octane have been relaxed over the years as OEMs struggled with build quantities. But, apparently when Cor took over the USXC program the fueling rules defaulted to an ISR standard which allows basically any commercially available fuel, NOT the 91 octane previously mandated by USXC.

While none of the guys pointed fingers at anyone, they did say there was a smell of race fuel in the air at the 2 races last year. We also know there were some exceptionally fast sleds on the ice.  It makes you wonder if there were teams out there running high octane fuel to get those big numbers in the stock class (currently a perfectly legal loophole).

The guys mused on how that effects the sport going forward, specifically the cost to be competitive.

Edited September 18, 2024Sep 18 by Premium

Basically crybaby Cat guys complaining because they have zero gearing options for the Craplyist. 

1 hour ago, Premium said:

Just listened to the latest Shoptalk Podcast episode (#48) and heard some interesting info. Many are aware the 2015 rules mandating consumer available 600s running 91 octane have been relaxed over the years as OEMs struggled with build quantities. But, apparently when Cor took over the USXC program the fueling rules defaulted to an ISR standard which allows basically any commercially available fuel, NOT the 91 octane previously mandated by USXC.

While none of the guys pointed fingers at anyone, they did say there was a smell of race fuel in the air at the 2 races last year. We also know there were some exceptionally fast sleds on the ice.  It makes you wonder if there were teams out there running high octane fuel to get those big numbers in the stock class (currently a perfectly legal loophole).

The guys mused on how that effects the sport going forward, specifically the cost to be competitive.

I don't know the other rules, is EFI tuning allowed?

Race fuel is commercially available so I wouldn't even call using it a loophole that's just well within the rules.  There are plenty of race fuels available that can significantly increase power even on a stock pump gas engine.  The fuels just have more energy and more oxygen.  If they are allowed and any of these big $ teams want to win, they'd be bad at what they're doing to not use it.