Rod Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Good poast op 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I'm sure everyone here thinks the electrician from Minnesota wiring light bulbs that he bought from Snowrider is the real expert. Not the guy that owns his own speed shop and builds custom made pro stock and outlaw class engines. Yup, you got us here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 33 minutes ago, Steve753 said: So no piston geometry was changed? @f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, Steve753 said: @f7ben No idea , don’t care. Skidoo added no power with their first design. It was normalized , not charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: No idea , don’t care. Skidoo added no power with their first design. It was normalized , not charged. So you dont know the difference between the 2 things. If you read the whole link you provided, it tells you the differences in the engines. Had it been normalized it would have had a lower compression ratio. Which it does not. Edited March 12 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: So you dont know the difference between the 2 things. If you read the whole link you provided, it tells you the differences in the engines. Had it been normalized it would have had a lower compression ratio. Which it does not. You have that backwards you stupid cocksucker normalized largely retains the stick motors but not always. The design pressure is the majority of the difference. Man are you fucking stupid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 33 minutes ago, HSR said: I'm sure everyone here thinks the electrician from Minnesota wiring light bulbs that he bought from Snowrider is the real expert. Not the guy that owns his own speed shop and builds custom made pro stock and outlaw class engines. Yup, you got us here Poor queef….BUT TOMMCAT SAYS DERR You got owned because you’re dumb as fuck , that all there is to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, f7ben said: You have that backwards you stupid cocksucker normalized largely retains the stick motors but not always. The design pressure is the majority of the difference. Man are you fucking stupid The compression ratio is 12:5:1 on both turbo and non turbo. A turbo normalized motor would be less. In the end you saying just adding boost is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: The compression ratio is 12:5:1 on both turbo and non turbo. A turbo normalized motor would be less. In the end you saying just adding boost is false. That is backwards you stupid fuck , the normalized engine would retain higher CR typically because it isn’t exceeding rated hp. You’re dumb as a fucking stump , perfect little cop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: That is backwards you stupid fuck , the normalized engine would retain higher CR typically because it isn’t exceeding rated hp. You’re dumb as a fucking stump , perfect little cop Either way it wouldn't be the same. Im just going by the link you posted. The piston geometry change to be normalized proves you're wrong in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted March 12 Gold Member Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, Steve753 said: The compression ratio is 12:5:1 on both turbo and non turbo. A turbo normalized motor would be less. In the end you saying just adding boost is false. Holy fuck 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: That is backwards you stupid fuck , the normalized engine would retain higher CR typically because it isn’t exceeding rated hp. You’re dumb as a fucking stump , perfect little cop He is so fucking Stupid it makes my head hurt. The fact the compression ratio isnt lower proves it all. If the thing made any sort of good boost it would NEED lower compression. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 Just now, Steve753 said: Either way it wouldn't be the same. Im just going by the link you posted. The piston geometry change to be normalized proves you're wrong in itself. No , the piston change proves skidoo intended to eventually charge the engine and not just normalize it which is what they ended up doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: Holy fuck He is so fucking Stupid it makes my head hurt. The fact the compression ratio isnt lower proves it all. If the thing made any sort of good boost it would NEED lower compression. He’s just too dumb to grasp any of this , much like HSR. Yet here they are arguing anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Just now, f7ben said: No , the piston change proves skidoo intended to eventually charge the engine and not just normalize it which is what they ended up doing. They didnt change pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Read your whole link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Still called turbocharging. Altitude turbocharging, which is sometimes called 'normalizing', keeps your engine running like it's at sea level for as long as possible. It depends on the engine, but most altitude turbochargers keep your manifold pressure between 29-30 inches of mercury (sea level pressure) as you climb in altitude. https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aircraft-systems/how-an-aircraft-turbocharger-system-works-on-aircraft-high-alt/#:~:text=Altitude turbocharging%2C which is sometimes,as you climb in altitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 If a vehicle has a turbo and utilizes it to increase manifold pressure at any given time during operation then its turbocharged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 this thread be lacking... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Still trying to figure out how 170 hp is a lot more power than 170 hp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 A few pics from Tommcat Performance page. The guy who Ben says is an idiot. You guys be the judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 45 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Either way it wouldn't be the same. Im just going by the link you posted. The piston geometry change to be normalized proves you're wrong in itself. What geometry of the piston is changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Just now, Roosting said: What geometry of the piston is changed? Read the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Read the link. He can't read yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Read the link. fill me in as to how you understand it with your own words 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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