Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 19 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1. EPS on some 4 strokes 2. Turbo Back Country 3. Turbo 2-stroke in a couple more models 4. Bold new graphics 5. Consumer electric sled Edited February 19 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Still tippy Still the worst front end in the industry Maintains #1 sales position amongst dwarves, elves and leprechauns 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 35 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Still tippy Still the worst front end in the industry Maintains #1 sales position amongst dwarves, elves and leprechauns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, SSFB said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Ski doo is a marketing company first and an engineering company 2nd they wrap very mediocre products in pretty nice plastics Edited February 20 by Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Rod said: Ski doo is a marketing company first and an engineering company 2nd they wrap very mediocre products in pretty nice plastics Buying etec technology was the best thing they ever did for themselves. Otherwise they really haven’t innovated anything since the rev or push button reverse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 8 hours ago, Rod said: Ski doo is a marketing company first and an engineering company 2nd they wrap very mediocre products in pretty nice plastics The most ridiculous snowmobile post in the history of FS. Nobody has nearly the amount of major sport changing innovations that the others followed as Doo. Its not even close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 (edited) Nobody comes close. List has been posted before. 5 of these 8 others are copying today. 1. Rider Forward 2. Variable Exhaust Valves 3. Engine reverse 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding Edited February 20 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 XRS ExpeditionR Competition the ultimate Quebec weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Nobody comes close. List has been posted before. 5 of these 8 others are copying today. 1. Rider Forward 2. Variable Exhaust Valves 3. Engine reverse 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding Etec was not a brp innovation. They bought Evinrude to get it. Skidoo was not the first to turbocharge a two stroke from the factory. Polaris was and skidoos setup is an absolute abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, f7ben said: Etec was not a brp innovation. They bought Evinrude to get it. Skidoo was not the first to turbocharge a two stroke from the factory. Polaris was and skidoos setup is an absolute abortion. And they were the first to put it on a snowmobile. Its not just who invented it but who adapted it to the market. Other vehicles were "rider forward" but nobody had the idea to adapt that to snowmobiles before them. Doo was first. https://ir.brp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/ski-doo-launches-world-premiere-technology-all-new-summit-850-e Edited February 20 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Highmark said: The most ridiculous snowmobile post in the history of FS. Nobody has nearly the amount of major sport changing innovations that the others followed as Doo. Its not even close. Lol it’s not 2003 anymore friendo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just some parts in specials, and they’re still trying to fix their industry worst handling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Highmark said: Nobody comes close. List has been posted before. 5 of these 8 others are copying today. 1. Rider Forward 2. Variable Exhaust Valves 3. Engine reverse 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding Nobody has anything close to etec and it's been what 16 years now? 2 hours ago, f7ben said: Etec was not a brp innovation. They bought Evinrude to get it. Skidoo was not the first to turbocharge a two stroke from the factory. Polaris was and skidoos setup is an absolute abortion. Etec is still the best. And they are pretty reliable despite opinions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Rod said: Lol it’s not 2003 anymore friendo That's the point. Changes Doo made then and earlier they are all still using today. Trust me....I'm not a full doo guy....I don't even have a newer one that I personally ride but I can tell great engineering when I see it. I won't even get into fit and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: That's the point. Changes Doo made then and earlier they are all still using today. Trust me....I'm not a full doo guy....I don't even have a newer one that I personally ride but I can tell great engineering when I see it. I won't even get into fit and finish. What changes has doo actually made since 2003? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Nobody comes close. List has been posted before. 5 of these 8 others are copying today. 1. Rider Forward 2. Variable Exhaust Valves 3. Engine reverse 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding 9. Industry leading accessories 18 minutes ago, Rod said: What changes has doo actually made since 2003? 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding 9. Industry leading accessories Again the significant changes they've made over time last decades with small refinements. Tell me some industry changing things that have come from the other 3 that they all are using today. Yamaha....Pretty much the 4 stroke. Cat.......AWS.....that's about it albeit its probably as big as rider forward. Polaris...... Edited February 20 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: 5. SHOT no battery electric start 6. Electronic fuel injection with injectors instead of throttle bodies. 7. Turbo 2 stroke from the factory 8. Smart shock system that adjusts while riding 9. Industry leading accessories Again the significant changes they've made over time last decades with small refinements. Tell me some industry changing things that have come from the other 3 that they all are using today. Yamaha....Pretty much the 4 stroke. Cat.......AWS.....that's about it albeit its probably as big as rider forward. Polaris...... Lol you’re So gay shot is neat. But it took them a decade to put it into a sled that kinda matters etec is actually an abortion. Yeah it saves you $20 on gas but have fun on your constant 2500 mile rebuilds Polaris owns the 2 stroke boosted market. The boosted doos are the most boring thing on the planet the smart shocks system does nearly zero. It kinda adjusts on the fly but it’s also making up for garbage shocks. Saying you can change ride harshness on the fly isn’t actually smart shocks. That’s doo copying cat. Again. I’m a ski doo fan. But all they are is nice plastics for hipsters. Their handling sucks. Their performance is mediocre at best. They now need meth injection to still be slower than a 2005 Mach Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 20 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 20 22 minutes ago, Rod said: Lol you’re So gay shot is neat. But it took them a decade to put it into a sled that kinda matters etec is actually an abortion. Yeah it saves you $20 on gas but have fun on your constant 2500 mile rebuilds Polaris owns the 2 stroke boosted market. The boosted doos are the most boring thing on the planet the smart shocks system does nearly zero. It kinda adjusts on the fly but it’s also making up for garbage shocks. Saying you can change ride harshness on the fly isn’t actually smart shocks. That’s doo copying cat. Again. I’m a ski doo fan. But all they are is nice plastics for hipsters. Their handling sucks. Their performance is mediocre at best. They now need meth injection to still be slower than a 2005 Mach Z. Thanks again for not addressing the points. Glad I'm so gay and not just....gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Thanks again for not addressing the points. Glad I'm so gay and not just....gay. Point is that ski doo is just sleds for hipsters. Nothing they make is actually exciting. Yeah they have a turbo and meth.. but to be slower than most 20 year od sleds. And heavy as shit If the competition turbo has electric start it would be as heavy as a 900r 4 stroke and it’s just as slow Sleds for hipsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, f7ben said: Skidoo was not the first to turbocharge a two stroke from the factory. Polaris was and skidoos setup is an absolute abortion. Skidoo was first dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 minutes ago, awful knawful said: Skidoo was first dummy. They were the first ones to use a turbo to add zero HP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 12 minutes ago, Rod said: They were the first ones to use a turbo to add zero HP Did they add Hp at altitude vs a N/A sled? Damn you really are dumb eh? You do realise there is more to sledding that the flat smooth straight trails of Manitoba right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, HSR said: Did they add Hp at altitude vs a N/A sled? Damn you really are dumb eh? You do realise there is more to sledding that the flat smooth straight trails of Manitoba right? Stfu you massive burnout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, Rod said: Stfu you massive burnout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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