Rod Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Not greg b said: Ukraine was the looser as soon as Russia kicked it off. NATO is just making it go on longer. Russia could stop right and say we will stop shooting at you and stay right here. Russia gains something Ukraine looses. If Ukraine does not agree Russia keeps going. That’s been Putin’s strategy since the start They have an issue now that if they do a cease fire, they could put Ukraine into nato then it’s instantly ww3 Putin basically has to see it through at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Best foreign policy, "bring back Trump" So the authoritarian leader who was supported by Trump and not by Biden, wants Trump back? No way…. Let’s ask Putin and Xi next - they definitely have our best interests in mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ACE said: They have an issue now that if they do a cease fire, they could put Ukraine into nato then it’s instantly ww3 Putin basically has to see it through at this point You know putin will wait it out until there is nothing left of Ukraine and Ukraine has to give in. He has nothing to loose at this point. The only way to get the Russia out of Ukraine is for west/nato to go in there and remove them, and you know they won’t. If they were serious about putting Ukraine in NATO the west/nato would have gone in there and ended this by now. Ukraine couldn’t keep the Russians out 10 years ago when this started and they can’t remove the Russians now with NATO giving them all kinds of modern shit to shoot at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Not greg b said: You know putin will wait it out until there is nothing left of Ukraine and Ukraine has to give in. He has nothing to loose at this point. The only way to get the Russia out of Ukraine is for west/nato to go in there and remove them, and you know they won’t. If they were serious about putting Ukraine in NATO the west/nato would have gone in there and ended this by now. Ukraine couldn’t keep the Russians out 10 years ago when this started and they can’t remove the Russians now with NATO giving them all kinds of modern shit to shoot at them. Not sure nato can even end it now. They don’t have much machinery or artillery left and Ukraine’s forces were the second largest forces in nato seriously though when is the last time Russia lost a war and when is the last time the US actually won a war 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, akvanden said: So the authoritarian leader who was supported by Trump and not by Biden, wants Trump back? No way…. Let’s ask Putin and Xi next - they definitely have our best interests in mind! That hurts your feelings 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 hours ago, ACE said: Not sure nato can even end it now. They don’t have much machinery or artillery left and Ukraine’s forces were the second largest forces in nato seriously though when is the last time Russia lost a war and when is the last time the US actually won a war Afghanistan...just like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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