Mileage Psycho Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Comparing different states with vastly different economies and resources then pointing squarely at political ideology as reasoning for successes or failures is completely ridiculous Cali raised taxes on those who could most afford it, KS and LA went with the trickled on theory of cutting taxes to the wealthy, the results are real world. In any sane world successful models are duplicated and improved upon, failed models are discarded and tossed into the trash heap of history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 27 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Comparing different states with vastly different economies and resources then pointing squarely at political ideology as reasoning for successes or failures is completely ridiculous Especially,when you are going to pick and choose only states that back up your model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 30 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Cali raised taxes on those who could most afford it, KS and LA went with the trickled on theory of cutting taxes to the wealthy, the results are real world. In any sane world successful models are duplicated and improved upon, failed models are discarded and tossed into the trash heap of history. Not to mention most red states are economic shitholes. Their model keeps the poor right where they are with little opportunity for advancement. But they can always move... to a blue state. Or go totally socialist and move to Canada... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Cold War said: Especially,when you are going to pick and choose only states that back up your model. These are three states that took uniquely different approaches to the economy of there state, LA and KS had surplus budgets and they now have deficit budgets and troubled economies, CA had a huge deficit and a troubled economy and they reversed there misfortune. You really should not let your political views skew your outlook when the results are plain as day, I know I would certainly never run my business in a failed model so why would anyone want there government to run on failed model? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Anler said: Not to mention most red states are economic shitholes. Their model keeps the poor right where they are with little opportunity for advancement. But they can always move... to a blue state. Or go totally socialist and move to Canada... No doubt, and it's those policies that has the GOP now stuck with it's tit in the ringer with their presumptive candidate Mr. Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: These are three states that took uniquely different approaches to the economy of there state, LA and KS had surplus budgets and they now have deficit budgets and troubled economies, CA had a huge deficit and a troubled economy and they reversed there misfortune. You really should not let your political views skew your outlook when the results are plain as day, I know I would certainly never run my business in a failed model so why would anyone want there government to run on failed model? Lol, you are letting your political views skew your outlook. I gave you another example. Contrary to your proof. Just because you choose to ignore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 37 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Cali raised taxes on those who could most afford it, KS and LA went with the trickled on theory of cutting taxes to the wealthy, the results are real world. In any sane world successful models are duplicated and improved upon, failed models are discarded and tossed into the trash heap of history. Vincent all three are completely different makeup across the board. Calling the out come successful v.s the other isn't more then personal views. Is today's economy different from decades prior yes. Has and does government harm areas of growth yep. Any one that claims otherwise is being selective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Anler said: Not to mention most red states are economic shitholes. Their model keeps the poor right where they are with little opportunity for advancement. But they can always move... to a blue state. Or go totally socialist and move to Canada... The provinces run by Conservative governments fared much better than the ones run by the socialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 31 minutes ago, Rmk said: 33 minutes ago, Cold War said: Lol, you are letting your political views skew your outlook. I gave you another example. Contrary to your proof. Just because you choose to ignore it The numbers don't lie, it is what it is. 31 minutes ago, Rmk said: Vincent all three are completely different makeup across the board. Calling the out come successful v.s the other isn't more then personal views. Is today's economy different from decades prior yes. Has and does government harm areas of growth yep. Any one that claims otherwise is being selective Who is talking about economies of decades past? This topic is about current state economies and the results of recent policies and the results. 23 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The provinces run by Conservative governments fared much better than the ones run by the socialists. The western provinces benefited immensely from the oil sands boom, but even with all that the GDP of the all the western provinces combined barely equal the GDP of the librul Ontario and if we include the hated PDQ the east clobbers the west and we know Alberta skews the numbers for the west as seen in the 2014 chart at the link, although we know that has changed dramatically since the bust in the oil patch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product The western provinces benefited from boom that was the oil sands, yet librul Ontario's GDP outstripped all the western provinces combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 29 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The western provinces benefited from boom that was the oil sands, yet librul Ontario's GDP outstripped all the western provinces combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product Apples and Oranges Ballsack check out per capita GDP Ontario has almost 1/2 of the countries population you clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 32 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The western provinces benefited from boom that was the oil sands, yet librul Ontario's GDP outstripped all the western provinces combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product Models are built on pass historical events and global economic events the latter is more true of today. The term trickle down is old and the other forms of economic management aren't to far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The western provinces benefited from boom that was the oil sands, yet librul Ontario's GDP outstripped all the western provinces combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product But, people do. That is why he is using a snapshot of three cherry picked states to make a point. You agree, so don't want to give it any further scrutiny. Edited July 4, 2016 by Cold War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 45 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The western provinces benefited from boom that was the oil sands, yet librul Ontario's GDP outstripped all the western provinces combined. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_gross_domestic_product They also outstripped all the other provinces debt combined, including that of Federal government. That is until Trutard came to town. How does this chart look Vince? http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Cold War said: But, people do. That is why he is using a snapshot of three cherry picked states to make a point. You agree, so don't want to give it any further scrutiny. They are considered "Have Not" provinces, but lets just look at one number, GDP even though you are running massive deficits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Cold War said: But, people do. That is why he is using a snapshot of three cherry picked states to make a point. You agree, so don't want to give it any further scrutiny. The three states in this topic are prime examples of policy success and failures. 44 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: They also outstripped all the other provinces debt combined, including that of Federal government. That is until Trutard came to town. How does this chart look Vince? http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm Looks like Ontario is the most prosperous province in the Confederation. Edited July 4, 2016 by Mileage Psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Funny how the brain washed retards keep doubling down on the Republican policies even with historical example after example of utter failure. Yet they are embracing Trump's liberal rhetoric because well, he's a Republican... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Looks like Ontario is the most prosperous province in the Confederation. Seriously??? Let me know when you donate another 15% of your gross income to Obama in hopes of becoming more like Canada? 6 minutes ago, Anler said: Funny how the brain washed retards keep doubling down on the Republican policies even with historical example after example of utter failure. Yet they are embracing Trump's liberal rhetoric because well, he's a Republican... Politicians do not create prosperity, they only drain it. Historical examples of Liberal policy successes? Guys, both you and Vince are maximizing on union protectionism bidding for contracts. You both seriously need to get a grip and look at how far behind you guys are in education, work ethic and productivity compared to other countries. I know, cause I see it every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Seriously??? Let me know when you donate another 15% of your gross income to Obama in hopes of becoming more like Canada? Politicians do not create prosperity, they only drain it. Historical examples of Liberal policy successes? Guys, both you and Vince are maximizing on union protectionism bidding for contracts. You both seriously need to get a grip and look at how far behind you guys are in education, work ethic and productivity compared to other countries. I know, cause I see it every day. Do people really believe politicians when they say they are going to or created jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Rmk said: Models are built on pass historical events and global economic events the latter is more true of today. The term trickle down is old and the other forms of economic management aren't to far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rmk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, Anler said: Funny how the brain washed retards keep doubling down on the Republican policies even with historical example after example of utter failure. Yet they are embracing Trump's liberal rhetoric because well, he's a Republican... Your using your big brush again. Of this topic neither you or mileage have post evidence of economic growth or improvement beyond the sole benefits of government to government. Wonderful comparison of two different economic segments to prove one narrow narrative. Expand and you will find negative impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 47 minutes ago, Rmk said: Your using your big brush again. Of this topic neither you or mileage have post evidence of economic growth or improvement beyond the sole benefits of government to government. Wonderful comparison of two different economic segments to prove one narrow narrative. Expand and you will find negative impact. Well you like to focus on the negative of one while we focus on the negative of the other. The difference being in the Republican states they have lower economic activity and lower wages. Where do you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Well you like to focus on the negative of one while we focus on the negative of the other. The difference being in the Republican states they have lower economic activity and lower wages. Where do you live? Niggers don't vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmk Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Anler said: Well you like to focus on the negative of one while we focus on the negative of the other. The difference being in the Republican states they have lower economic activity and lower wages. Where do you live? Location has zero to do with this. Put up some credible support and ill agree. Don't be silly you have known me for years online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 4, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2016 All this talk about California having had a surplus contradicts the stories of it being broke and Californian cities going bankrupt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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