XCR1250 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Why is Joe Biden so unpopular? ANDREW ROMANO July 18, 2023 at 1:04 PM “The 360” shows you diverse perspectives on the day’s top stories and debates. Photo illustration: Jack Forbes/Yahoo News; photos: Beata Zawrzel/NurPhoto via Getty Images, Getty Images (3) At this point in his term — about 910 days in — Joe Biden is the second-most-unpopular president in modern U.S. history. As of July 18, Biden’s average job-approval rating, according to the poll aggregators at FiveThirtyEight, is a paltry 39.1%; his average disapproval rating is 55.4%. That means his “net approval rating” is -16.3%, which is well “underwater,” as pollsters like to say. Negative 16.3% is also really bad historically speaking. In fact, the only president with weaker numbers than Biden was Jimmy Carter, who hit -28.6% on day 910. At the time, just 29% of Americans approved of Carter’s performance on average, while 57.6% disapproved. The U.S. was in much, much worse shape in 1979 — the year before Carter lost reelection to Ronald Reagan — than it is in 2023. Inflation had skyrocketed by 13.3% year-over-year; unemployment was stubbornly stuck around 6%; and the price of oil was in the process of doubling. Global shortages were so bad that Americans took to waiting in long lines — and occasionally punching each other — at their local gas stations. In contrast, a gallon of gas today costs roughly 30% less than it did 12 months ago. At 3.6%, unemployment is on par with 50-year lows — and down by almost half since Biden took office. The U.S. economy added 4 million jobs over the past year. Inflation has cooled to 3% after peaking last summer at triple that rate. And America’s so-called misery index — a combination of unemployment and inflation — is lower now than it has been during 83% of all months since 1978. Recession fears are subsiding. Meanwhile, as the Washington Monthly’s Bill Scher notes, illegal border crossings “have dropped by 70 percent in the last few weeks, according to the Department of Homeland Security, after Biden implemented a new border-management policy.” And “murder is down about 12 percent year-to-date in more than 90 cities that have released data for 2023, compared with data as of the same date in 2022,” according to crime data analyst Jeff Asher, writing in the Atlantic — a trend that could lead to “one of the largest annual percent changes in murder ever recorded.” On top of that, Biden has delivered on several policy promises that poll pretty well with the public. In the past, a president’s standing has tended to improve along with conditions in the country. Yet Biden’s numbers haven’t budged; since September 2022, his approval rating has remained mired around 40% while his disapproval rating has never broken out of the low to mid-50s. The question is why. Is it something systemic — the way Americans are increasingly stuck in their own partisan media bubbles and unwilling to give presidents of the opposing party any credit? Is it the economy — the way certain indicators (such as real wages and the cost of services) have yet to fully recover even as the overall picture brightens? Or is it Biden himself — his advanced age, his frequent gaffes, his ongoing family drama? And can the president turn things around in time for the 2024 election? Election season. Biden’s 2024 campaign spent a total of $1.1 million in the second quarter of this year, a “remarkably small amount that would put him behind several Democratic Senate candidates in terms of expenditures,” according to Politico. In comparison, Biden’s old boss Barack Obama spent about 11 times as much during the second quarter of 2011. Biden, in other words, hasn’t really started selling himself to voters yet. Assuming the economy keeps improving, a national campaign — and the contrast it could create with the even-less-popular Trump, Biden’s likeliest GOP rival — might help the president become more popular over the next 16 months. In July 2011, Obama was underwater too; by Election Day 2012, his net approval rating had climbed to +5% or so. “One possibility is that, after enjoying largely stable prices for decades, Americans simply have little tolerance for inflation. Sure, their wages may have grown faster than prices since February 2020. But voters might be inclined to attribute their income gains to their own efforts, while blaming rising prices on the government’s mismanagement. They still have not adjusted psychologically to the jump in their grocery bills, and are irked each time they see the receipt and remember what things used to cost when Donald Trump was still president.” — Eric Levitz, New York magazine Meanwhile, prices remain stubbornly high ‘where it counts’ “Although inflation has eased some, it hasn’t where it counts. Per the Wall Street Journal, prices ‘are stubbornly rising for what retail and food executives refer to as the center store,’ a euphemism for non-perishable staples from cereals to paper towels. In percentage terms, the cost of these goods is up by double digits across a variety of categories from just months or even weeks ago. And to judge by this report, many of the customers surveyed by Journal reporters went out of their way to note the tradeoffs they have had to make to stretch their dollars as far as possible. That’s an inconvenience that almost everyone feels and is liable to resent.” — Noah Rothman, National Review “Most Americans do not follow monthly inflation, crime, or border-crossing statistics. They experience inflation through more expensive bills, less abundant grocery purchases, and delayed big-ticket investments; crime through if-it-bleeds-it-leads local news broadcasts and major events like mass shootings; immigration through vivid images of people in migrant camps or the frequency with which they hear foreign languages spoken in their own communities. The positive statistics … need to be reflected over time in real-life experiences — and they need to persist until the moment voters decide how to vote.” — Ed Kilgore, New York magazine “A survey question along the lines of, ‘Do you think economic conditions are good or bad?’ is answered more along the lines of, ‘Do you like the current president or not?’ In October 2020, just before President Trump lost re-election, Republicans' economic sentiment was 26 points higher than Democrats' in the University of Michigan consumer sentiment survey. In February 2021, after Biden took office, Republicans rated the economy 28 points worse. A similar pattern occurred between the parties around the 2016 and 2008 elections, when partisan control shifted hands. We seem to be experiencing something similar right now.” — Neil Irwin, Axios “Since 1990, the number of Americans reporting they feel ‘not too happy’ has been trending upward, particularly among those without a college education. The onset of the pandemic only exacerbated the growing national unhappiness. … Whatever the causes, it turns out that unhappiness is a very strong predictor of voting behavior. Being extremely unhappy more than doubled a person’s likelihood of voting for Trump in 2016, and the unhappiest counties were the Trumpiest.” — Deepak Bhargava, Shahrzad Shams and Harry Hanbury, Democracy Journal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tommcat Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 Because he is the most incompetent president we've ever had, while also managing to be the most corrupt leader in all history 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Because he trounced trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 But but but....81 million. Only democrats would believe that 81 million voters actually voted for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Well they got kicked to the curb on gas stoves so now they’re going after your dishwasher. This is why this admin is a joke. Look at the streets of the south side of Chicago, or San Fran and what’s happened there. Isn’t there more important things to deal with than appliances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hard to believe there's only 3 years difference in ages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) And Trump was supposedly the laughingstock of the world?... And this clown has respect?.... No way he makes it to 2024 Edited July 19, 2023 by ViperGTS/Z1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 You would think if the Democrats were so sure about Biden, and confident of his chances for reelection, they would take the highroad, and just let Trump stew in his own juices. Instead, they take the opposite tack…ponderous. Well, because they’re fucking criminals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: Because he trounced trump. Ruining the economy, opening the borders and giving endless amounts of shit away for free has nothing to do with it, all TRUMPS fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 Worldwide respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 6 hours ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Hard to believe there's only 3 years difference in ages... So it’s Trumps turn next to become a mush brain idiot. I can’t even imagine his tantrums then compared to what we’ve already seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So it’s Trumps turn next to become a mush brain idiot. I can’t even imagine his tantrums then compared to what we’ve already seen I doubt 3 years will turn Trump into anything like Demented Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 19, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I doubt 3 years will turn Trump into anything like Demented Joe Of course you don’t lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Skidooski said: So it’s Trumps turn next to become a mush brain idiot. I can’t even imagine his tantrums then compared to what we’ve already seen Everyone knew biden was a mush brain before he was put into office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Skidooski said: Of course you don’t lol Trump gets more done in a day than 3 normal men. Come on dude. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 20, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Trump gets more done in a day than 3 normal men. Come on dude. This man crush you, viper and the like have on a 77 year old man is creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: This man crush you, viper and the like have on a 77 year old man is creepy. I'm responding to one of the many stupid and obsessed comments you make about the guy daily. Try not to over think it. Comparing Trump and Bidens mental faculties is absurd. You seem oblivious to who's running our government right now. Thats creepy dumb to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 20, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I'm responding to one of the many stupid and obsessed comments you make about the guy daily. Try not to over think it. Comparing Trump and Bidens mental faculties is absurd. You seem oblivious to who's running our government right now. Thats creepy dumb to me. Nice diatribe but I expected better lol Trump is a geriatric old fart just behind Biden and you are almost there yourself which is another reason you defend his age. Getting old...it happens but going around cheerleading the guy saying he can run circles around younger people is absurd let alone cultish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Nice diatribe but I expected better lol Trump is a geriatric old fart just behind Biden and you are almost there yourself which is another reason you defend his age. Getting old...it happens but going around cheerleading the guy saying he can run circles around younger people is absurd let alone cultish You're the guy who compared Trump to Biden, you ageist non woke tard. i merely responded to it. You have TDS, you've been conditioned well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 20, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: You're the guy who compared Trump to Biden, you ageist non woke tard. i merely responded to it. You have TDS, you've been conditioned well. Anymore catch phrases? Trump is 77...he's old...Biden is 80 he's old. It's not hard to see if you don't have blinders on. Both are way too old for POTUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 The difference most see between Trump & Biden is Biden obviously has Dementia, not all older folks get Dementia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Anymore catch phrases? Trump is 77...he's old...Biden is 80 he's old. It's not hard to see if you don't have blinders on. Both are way too old for POTUS My father was 83 when my mom, who was 82 when she died of dementia. My father still is sharp as he always was. Some lose their mind, some dont. Saying otherwise is asinine. Get other excuses... that one is played out. Especially those who pass off Biden as fine and wanted the 25th for Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 20, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Snake said: My father was 83 when my mom, who was 82 when she died of dementia. My father still is sharp as he always was. Some lose their mind, some dont. Saying otherwise is asinine. Get other excuses... that one is played out. Especially those who pass off Biden as fine and wanted the 25th for Trump. We need age limits plain and simple. Being 80 years old and POTUS is asinine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 20, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: The difference most see between Trump & Biden is Biden obviously has Dementia, not all older folks get Dementia. They are both too fucking old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Skidooski said: They are both too fucking old Why would age matter? Explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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