Self-Driving Tesla Was Involved in Fatal Crash

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DETROIT — The race by automakers and technology firms to develop self-driving cars has been fueled by the belief that computers can operate a vehicle more safely than human drivers.

But that view is now in question after the revelation on Thursday that the driver of a Tesla Model S electric sedan was killed in an accident when the car was in self-driving mode.

Federal regulators, who are in the early stages of setting guidelines for autonomous vehicles, have opened a formal investigation into the incident, which occurred on May 7 in Williston, Fla.

In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said preliminary reports indicated that the crash occurred when a tractor-trailer made a left turn in front of the Tesla, and the car failed to apply the brakes.

It is the first known fatal accident involving a vehicle being driven by itself by means of sophisticated computer software, sensors, cameras and radar.

The safety agency did not identify the Tesla driver who was killed. But the Florida Highway Patrol identified him as Joshua Brown, 40, of Canton, Ohio.

He was a Navy veteran who owned a technology consulting firm. In a news release, Tesla on Thursday described him as a man “who spent his life focused on innovation and the promise of technology and who believed strongly in Tesla’s mission.”

Mr. Brown posted videos of himself riding in autopilot mode. “The car’s doing it all itself,’’ he said in one, smiling as he took his hands from the steering wheel.

The death is a blow to Tesla at a time when the company is pushing to expand its product lineup from expensive electric vehicles to more mainstream models. The company on Thursday declined to say whether the technology or the driver or either were at fault in the accident.

In its news release it said, “Neither autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor-trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied.”

The crash also casts doubt on whether autonomous vehicles in general can consistently make split-second, life-or-death driving decisions on the highway.

And other companies are increasing investments in self-driving technology. Google, for example, recently announced plans to adapt 100 Chrysler minivans for autonomous driving. Earlier this year, G.M. acquired the software firm Cruise Automation to accelerate its own self-driving applications.

Even as the companies conduct many tests on autonomous vehicles at both private facilities and on public highways, there is skepticism that the technology has progressed far enough for the government to approve cars that totally drive themselves.

The traffic safety agency said it was working with the Florida Highway Patrol in the inquiry into Mr. Brown’s fatal accident. The agency cautioned that the opening of an investigation did not mean it thought there was a defect in the vehicle being examined.

The federal traffic safety agency is nearing the release of a new set of guidelines and regulations regarding the testing of self-driving vehicles on public roads. They are expected to be released in July.

At a recent technology conference in Novi, Mich., the agency’s leader, Mark Rosekind, said self-driving cars should at least be twice as safe as human drivers to result in a significant reduction in roadway deaths. “We need to start with two times better,’’ Mr. Rosekind said. “We need to set a higher bar if we expect safety to actually be a benefit here.”

Karl Brauer, an analyst with the auto research firm Kelley Blue Book, said the accident served as a signal that the technology might not be as advanced and ready for the market as some proponents have suggested.

“This is a bit of a wake-up call,” Mr. Brauer said. “People who were maybe too aggressive in taking the position that we’re almost there, this technology is going to be in the market very soon, maybe need to reassess that.”

Tesla said in its news release that it had informed the traffic safety agency about the accident “immediately after it occurred.” But the company reported it publicly only on Thursday, after learning that the agency had begun to investigate.

Mr. Brown had spent 11 years in the Navy and then founded a technology consulting company, Nexu Innovations, according to a May obituary of Mr. Brown in The Greensburg Tribune Review in Westmoreland County, Pa., where he had formerly lived.

The Nexu Innovations website, describing Mr. Brown as founder and owner, said that in the Navy he had been on active duty as a “master explosive ordnance disposal technician,” including a stint with the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, which is commonly known as SEAL Team 6.

Ricky Hammer, a retired Navy master chief who worked with Mr. Brown at the development group, said Mr. Brown had strong computer skills and “was the equivalent of an electrical engineer even though he didn’t have the degree.”

In Iraq in 2006, he said, Mr. Brown played a crucial role in preparing captured explosive projectiles for shipment to the United States to support efforts to improve the armor on military vehicles.

“He did it by being very aggressive,” Mr. Hammer said, noting that Mr. Brown helped to collect the projectiles after raids on bomb-making shops and would X-ray them to determine their contents.

In the past, Elon Musk, the Tesla chief executive, has praised the company’s self-driving feature, introduced in the Model S last fall, as “probably better than a person right now.”

But in its statement on Thursday, the company cautioned that it was still only a test feature and noted that its use ‘‘requires explicit acknowledgment that the system is new technology.’’

It noted that when a driver activated the system, an acknowledgment box popped up, explaining that the autopilot mode “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times.”

Correction: June 30, 2016

An earlier version of this article misstated the location of Williston, Fla. It is

[Catalina]

I think we are quite a ways off from this technology being real. Even if they do figure out how to keep the cars on the road during 'normal' circumstances, what do you think will happen in a heavy rainstorm? How about when the roads are icy, will it know enough to slow down, and allow extra braking distance (I know half the human drivers don't). 

I don't see the insurance companies being too happy, will be interested to see who goes after Telsa on this one. Once the car company gets sued, there will be giant warnings when you start up saying you need to be in the drivers seat, alert, ready to take over at any moment, and that the car is not responsible if there is a crash, the driver is. At that point, why bother?

[Momorider]

This wasn't meant as a self driving car it's just advanced cruise control  

[Capt.Storm]

The while idea is just stupid.

[Capt.Storm]

I already seen into the future by watching the jetsons years ago and george was driving!

 

Edited July 1, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Rod]

If the software was written by an Asian then this isn't really surprising. 

[deerslayer]

only an idiot would trust a car to drive itself.  I like to be in control of any vehicle im driving. don't even like it when the wife drives.

[Kivalo]

Bound to be some serious fuckups along the way but they'll get this ironed out sooner or later. 

[Capt.Storm]

3 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Bound to be some serious fuckups along the way but they'll get this ironed out sooner or later. 

So now us fuck up Americans shouldn't even drive.

[Kivalo]

2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

So now us fuck up Americans shouldn't even drive.

Huh? Who said that?

[Capt.Storm]

14 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Huh? Who said that?

Pretty sure the thread is about driver-less cars silly.

 

DETROIT — The race by automakers and technology firms to develop self-driving cars has been fueled by the belief that computers can operate a vehicle more safely than human drivers.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Kivalo]

5 hours ago, Capt.Storm said:

Pretty sure the thread is about driver-less cars silly.

 

DETROIT — The race by automakers and technology firms to develop self-driving cars has been fueled by the belief that computers can operate a vehicle more safely than human drivers.

So who said American's shouldn't drive?

[Capt.Storm]

7 hours ago, Kivalo said:

So who said American's shouldn't drive?

At a recent technology conference in Novi, Mich., the agency’s leader, Mark Rosekind, said self-driving cars should at least be twice as safe as human drivers to result in a significant reduction in roadway deaths. “

Can't drive as in way too many deaths..which is true but i doubt driver less cars will do better..that's all.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Capt.Storm