1jkw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, racer254 said: Everyone wants to cut spending, except when there actually is a bill to cut spending. Why are these middle class people all of sudden against spending cuts? Constantly deflecting and siding with democrats when they DONT want to cut spending. You are confusing 2 different issues, middle class people will pay their debts so they don't lose their house then figure out how to cut their spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, 1jkw said: You are confusing 2 different issues, middle class people will pay their debts so they don't lose their house then figure out how to cut their spending. Oh really, better check that. Look at 2008. Look at CC debt now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Yeah, them guys in washington would love that. Magically those cuts will just disappear and you know that. Nah, hold them to the fire. The public agrees that we are spending too much and cuts are needed and wanted. Yes and I guarantee the public agrees that the debt ceiling needs to be raised, and will blame the party that voted no to raising it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, 1jkw said: Yes and I guarantee the public agrees that the debt ceiling needs to be raised, and will blame the party that voted no to raising it. Only because the media will follow the democrats lead. We all know that the spending cuts will only happen if they are put in this bill or tied to something like it. Think of the fed like the bankers in 2008....predatory lending at a GINORMOUS scale. The largest scale ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 11, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Only because the media will follow the democrats lead. We all know that the spending cuts will only happen if they are put in this bill or tied to something like it. Think of the fed like the bankers in 2008....predatory lending at a GINORMOUS scale. The largest scale ever. List the spending cuts along with dollar amount and impact on the deficit. Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: List the spending cuts along with dollar amount and impact on the deficit. Go! FYI, he cares just as much about the debt and deficits as you do... zero fucks given to be precise. he wants lower income taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: FYI, he cares just as much about the debt and deficits as you do... zero fucks given to be precise. he wants lower income taxes You are so far off, but hey you do you. Spending cuts that will save 3.2 trillion. Don't you want spending cuts, or do you just want your baller checks from the government? You a tweaker or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 11, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: FYI, he cares just as much about the debt and deficits as you do... zero fucks given to be precise. he wants lower income taxes No way to lower taxes and tackle the debt. But your Repug party peddles the nonsense and the @racer254 of your party lap it up. They target 11% of the the budget which is discretionary. Consider defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and SS non-discretionary items. Math isn’t their friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: No way to lower taxes and tackle the debt. But your Repug party peddles the nonsense and the @racer254 of your party lap it up. They target 11% of the the budget which is discretionary. Consider defense, Medicare, Medicaid, and SS non-discretionary items. Math isn’t their friend. OMG, are you this dumb? Of course they target discretionary spending. Go educate yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 11, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: OMG, are you this dumb? Of course they target discretionary spending. Go educate yourself. List the cuts with dollar amounts along with impact on deficit over time. Otherwise - STFU and take your like a man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: List the cuts with dollar amounts along with impact on deficit over time. Otherwise - STFU and take your like a man Look it up light bulb. If you cared you would already have done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 11, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Look it up light bulb. If you cared you would already have done that. You don’t have a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3.2 trillion in savings but the dems say NOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, racer254 said: You are so far off, but hey you do you. Spending cuts that will save 3.2 trillion. Don't you want spending cuts, or do you just want your baller checks from the government? You a tweaker or something? we've been through this, no spending increase keep the taxes where they're at. anytime you care to reverse course on paying off the debt you just let me know sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 we can't have tax cuts due to our current, projected and previous spending... pretty simple isn't it? but Trump cut taxes... and Trump increased spending, debt and deficits... but hey, you got a tax break and a NICE RED HAT!!! Neither the democrats or republicans have any desire to fix the problems, that would require work and being honest with the American public. Let's default and burn this house of cards straight to the ground... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Yes and I guarantee the public agrees that the debt ceiling needs to be raised, and will blame the party that voted no to raising it. Remember when the dumbass republicans held it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, 1jkw said: Well if the reps. are dumb enough to follow through and not pass the bill it will cost far more in the end, both in monetary costs and politically. So are you worried about spending again? Has it ever occured to you that our federal government needs to cut spending, like any time, ever? The vast majority of the public wants the government to cut spending, why don’t they do it and you want to blame Republicans for what again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, 1jkw said: Raise the debt ceiling and then figure out the cuts. I don't, I have always tried to save more than I spend and succeeded at that almost always. Nope , never gonna see any cuts that way and you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Remember when the dumbass republicans held it up? Remember when the libtard didn’t compromise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, DriftBusta said: Has it ever occured to you that our federal government needs to cut spending, like any time, ever? The vast majority of the public wants the government to cut spending, why don’t they do it and you want to blame Republicans for what again? Yes it has and it has been promised. The only thing and it is really simple, if the Republicans don't raise the debt ceiling, the damage caused by that action will be 100% their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Nope , never gonna see any cuts that way and you know it. Probably not but it still doesn't excuse not raising the ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Remember when the dumbass republicans held it up? I doubt history will repeat itself, it's a matter of their own survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Probably not but it still doesn't excuse not raising the ceiling. So just keep on spending. You’re an economic wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/11/debt-ceiling-meeting-among-biden-and-congressional-leaders-postponed-until-next-week-source-says.html there ya go @racer254 they're meeting next week to keep fucking over the American taxpayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: No problem. If the Dems take the house (and they will) the can hold up something the repukes want by insisting on a AR 15 ban. Truly the dumbest “ independent “ ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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