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2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Well it seemed to work for Trump.

Covid had nothing to do with that….and I didn’t like his spending either, nice fail 

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1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said:

Covid had nothing to do with that….

Considering he spent more in his first 3 years than Obama's last 4 it did.  

Add in Trumps $1800.00 stimulus payments, $600.00 per week UE raise, and 900 million in PPP it was quite large.

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7 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Considering he spent more in his first 3 years than Obama's last 4 it did.  

Add in Trumps $1800.00 stimulus payments, $600.00 per week UE raise, and 900 million in PPP it was quite large.

Covid remember?  Remember that Pelosi and the dems wanted MORE.

BTW, any one looking at what biden is spending so far?

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21 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Rethugs passed an unfunded $2.3 TRILLION corporate tax cut under trump, then raised the debt ceiling (with NO preconditions) 3 times while ballooning the deficit, and NOW under Biden they’re refusing to pay THEIR bills? 

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Really what needs to be looked at is how we are spending this money.

government waste is crazy!!

no private company would run their business like the government does!!

went by state job and they had three guys in trucks for safety barrier.

trucks did not move then three watching couple guys working.

so why couldn’t they guys in truck get out and do job instead of just sit in truck.

just small example of wasted money!!

just so much wasted cash!!!

then there’s Ukraine!!!

 

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1 hour ago, racer254 said:

Covid remember?  Remember that Pelosi and the dems wanted MORE.

BTW, any one looking at what biden is spending so far?

And he spent more in his first 3 years than the previous admin. did in the last 4 and that was before covid.

And Trump said he would have spent more too.  

I'm sure you are please tell the class.

 

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2 hours ago, 1jkw said:

Considering he spent more in his first 3 years than Obama's last 4 it did.  

Add in Trumps $1800.00 stimulus payments, $600.00 per week UE raise, and 900 million in PPP it was quite large.

Again, covid spending.

And I’m not defending trumps spending but you seem to want more

 

this is what leftists used covid money for

 

  • Seattle, Washington, put $28.5 million toward 165 apartments – some with views of the city’s iconic Space Needle – for homeless residents.

  • Boston paid off $5 million in debt for the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the U.S. Senate.

  • Washington, D.C., set aside $2.5 million of its $3 billion haul for parking enforcement officers.

  • City council members in Woonsocket, Rhode Island, put $53,000 toward remodeling their chamber in city hall and buying themselves new ergonomic chairs.

  • Dutchess County, New York, used more than $12 million to expand its minor league baseball stadium.

  • In Arizona, $7.2 million went to increase the prize money at horse racing tracks.

  • Towns from Michigan to Connecticut have plans for a pickleballinfrastructure boom.

  • Los Angeles County, California, created a $5 million “creative works” jobs program for artists.

  • Chautauqua County, New York, spent $250,000 upgrading the county’s walking trails and another $1.3 million on snow removal equipment.

  • Colorado Springs, Colorado, spent $6.6 million replacing irrigation systems at two local golf courses.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Again, covid spending.

And I’m not defending trumps spending but you seem to want more

 

this is what leftists used covid money for

 

  • Seattle, Washington, put $28.5 million toward 165 apartments – some with views of the city’s iconic Space Needle – for homeless residents.

  • Boston paid off $5 million in debt for the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the U.S. Senate.

  • Washington, D.C., set aside $2.5 million of its $3 billion haul for parking enforcement officers.

  • City council members in Woonsocket, Rhode Island, put $53,000 toward remodeling their chamber in city hall and buying themselves new ergonomic chairs.

  • Dutchess County, New York, used more than $12 million to expand its minor league baseball stadium.

  • In Arizona, $7.2 million went to increase the prize money at horse racing tracks.

  • Towns from Michigan to Connecticut have plans for a pickleballinfrastructure boom.

  • Los Angeles County, California, created a $5 million “creative works” jobs program for artists.

  • Chautauqua County, New York, spent $250,000 upgrading the county’s walking trails and another $1.3 million on snow removal equipment.

  • Colorado Springs, Colorado, spent $6.6 million replacing irrigation systems at two local golf courses.

 

 

Again Trump had out spent Obama's last 4 years in his first 3 years prior to the pandemic.  

Where did the rest of Trumps 900 million PPP get spent? 

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2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

More great spending by our administration

Buttigieg wants to spend $20 million on female crash dummies

 

Is it because voting age women outnumber voting age men?  ;) 

 

 

 

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:20 PM, 1jkw said:

Again Trump had out spent Obama's last 4 years in his first 3 years prior to the pandemic.  

Where did the rest of Trumps 900 million PPP get spent? 

Wish list  democrats wanted added to covid to bills 

 

$100,000,000 to Nasa, because, who knows why.

$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, because why the hell not

$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts / because screw it

$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities/ because no one even knew that was a thing

$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training / for when the GI Bill isn't enough

$435,000,000 for mental health support / thats a lot of suicide hotlines

$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund/ because that will keep people employed

$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program

$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR has to be bought by the dems

$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries / Who the hell knows how we are going to use it

$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin / but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs

$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building / I kid you not it's on page 136

Still reading through this crap

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries

$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts

$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives

$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA

$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs

$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development

$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance

$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147

$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148

$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121

9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134

$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162 This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat. $100,000,000 is chump change

$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act. This sounds like it's direct payments for workers. Pg 164

$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163

$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165

$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167

$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168 (what are the odds that doesn't go unused)

Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress

$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169

$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172

$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172

No voter ID to get a ballot, & anonymous “ballot harvesting” pg 650

$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175

$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175

$2,500,000 Office of Housing

$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance Office of Public and Indian Housing. 1,000,000,000 of which can be used as "additional administrative and other expenses". pg 176

$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177

$100,000,000 for Community Block Grants for Native Americans pg 183

$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182

$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185

$20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees whatever the hell that means pg 186

$15,000,000,000 for the Community Development Fund pg 188

Only $10,000,000 of which is set aside for infrastructure for fighting infectious disease pg 191

$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193

$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance - pg 198

An additional $7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act - 203

Paid Family Leave for Sickness is 2 paid work weeks pg 213

Emergency Family Leave

Now applies to all employers not just companies over 500 employees pg 208

Guarantees paid leave to employees who have an in-law who gets sick pg 209

Opens up leave for some you are in a "committed relationships with" pg 212

$1,000,000,000 for more Obamaphones!

This shows me that they don't really think this is a big deal. Business as usual. Use a crisis to rob us blind.

Still reading......

$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth

2 activities pg 80

$261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker employment and training activities, including supportive services and needs-related payments; pg 80

$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal

Farmworker programs...WTF??

$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’,

$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’,

$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’,

$30,000,000, to OSHA

$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants

$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’,

$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’,

$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’,

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40 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Wish list  democrats wanted added to covid to bills 

 

$100,000,000 to Nasa, because, who knows why.

$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, because why the hell not

$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts / because screw it

$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities/ because no one even knew that was a thing

$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training / for when the GI Bill isn't enough

$435,000,000 for mental health support / thats a lot of suicide hotlines

$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund/ because that will keep people employed

$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program

$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR has to be bought by the dems

$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries / Who the hell knows how we are going to use it

$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin / but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs

$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building / I kid you not it's on page 136

Still reading through this crap

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries

$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts

$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives

$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA

$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs

$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development

$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance

$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147

$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148

$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121

9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134

$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162 This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat. $100,000,000 is chump change

$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act. This sounds like it's direct payments for workers. Pg 164

$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163

$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165

$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167

$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168 (what are the odds that doesn't go unused)

Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress

$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169

$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172

$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172

No voter ID to get a ballot, & anonymous “ballot harvesting” pg 650

$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175

$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175

$2,500,000 Office of Housing

$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance Office of Public and Indian Housing. 1,000,000,000 of which can be used as "additional administrative and other expenses". pg 176

$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177

$100,000,000 for Community Block Grants for Native Americans pg 183

$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182

$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185

$20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees whatever the hell that means pg 186

$15,000,000,000 for the Community Development Fund pg 188

Only $10,000,000 of which is set aside for infrastructure for fighting infectious disease pg 191

$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193

$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance - pg 198

An additional $7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act - 203

Paid Family Leave for Sickness is 2 paid work weeks pg 213

Emergency Family Leave

Now applies to all employers not just companies over 500 employees pg 208

Guarantees paid leave to employees who have an in-law who gets sick pg 209

Opens up leave for some you are in a "committed relationships with" pg 212

$1,000,000,000 for more Obamaphones!

This shows me that they don't really think this is a big deal. Business as usual. Use a crisis to rob us blind.

Still reading......

$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth

2 activities pg 80

$261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker employment and training activities, including supportive services and needs-related payments; pg 80

$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal

Farmworker programs...WTF??

$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’,

$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’,

$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’,

$30,000,000, to OSHA

$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants

$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’,

$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’,

$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’,

Wow Trump really gave up lots of borrowed money, even more than before the pandemic.

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22 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Wow Trump really gave up lots of borrowed money, even more than before the pandemic.

Reading comprehension problems eh? 
 

The legislation was not negotiated with congressional Republicans or the Donald Trump administration, and even if it passes through the House, it will likely languish in the Senate.

Politico reported in May that the legislation serves as more of a wishlist for the House Democrat conference’s most progressive lawmakers.

Politico wrote:

Privately, several House Democrats concede their latest bill feels like little more than an effort to appease the most liberal members of the caucus, many of whom were chafed that their most important priorities were minimized or ignored entirely in previous coronavirus negotiations.

The Heroes Act reportedly contains many leftist provisions in the bill, including:

  • $755 million for the government for Washington, DC. The bill would also allow the D.C. government to participate in the Federal Reserve’s Municipal Liquidity (MLF) to support additional lending to the city.
  • $1 million for the National Science Foundation to study the spread of coronavirus-related “disinformation.”
  • $10 million for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) as well as $10 million fo the National Endowment for the Humanities.
  • Eliminates limitations on the federal deduction for the state and local taxes (SALT). Republicans limited this deduction through the Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The SALT deduction primarily benefits wealthy, largely Democrat states.
  • Grants additional aid for State and local government bailouts. The bill contains $500 billion in funding for state government relief and $375 billion in aid to local governments. Senate Republicans such as Sens. Rick Scott (R-FL) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) have contended this will particularly aid fiscally irresponsible blue states such as California, New York, and Illinois to the detriment of more fiscally responsible states such as Texas and Florida.
  • $25 million for migrant and seasonal farmworkers, including emergency support services through the Department of Labor.
  • $1.7 billion for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and Minority Serving Institutions, $20 million for Howard University, $11 million for Gallaudet University, $11 million for the National Technical Institute for the Deaf.
  • $15 million to maintain operations, rental assistance supportive services, and other actions to mitigate the impact on low-income people with HIV/AIDS through the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
  • Create a two month special enrollment period for Obamacare. The bill also extends full premium subsidies to allow workers to maintain their health insurance coverage through COBRA.
  • Allows Attorney General William Barr to make grants to states to create state-run hate crime reporting hotlines.
  • Relief for up to $10,000 of up-front debt relief for all Department of Education loan borrowers.
  • Authorizes up to $50 million in Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) “environmental justice” grants to investigate or address the disproportionate impact of coronavirus in environmental communities.
  • $75 billion for housing assistance.
  • Mandatory early voting for every state and mandatory mail-in ballots for every state. Nate Madden, a press secretary for the House Oversight Committee Republicans, said it would be a “nightmare scenario for voter fraud.”
  • Allows wealthy people who make money from dividends and royalties to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is designed for lower-income Americans.
  • Extends assistance designed for nonprofits to political action groups and chamber of commerce-style associations. Open Markets Institute fellow Matt Stoller called it a “corporate lobbyist bailout.”

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9 hours ago, Sleepr2 said:

Reading comprehension problems eh? 
 

The legislation was not negotiated with congressional Republicans or the Donald Trump administration, and even if it passes through the House, it will likely languish in the Senate.

Politico reported in May that the legislation serves as more of a wishlist for the House Democrat conference’s most progressive lawmakers.

Politico wrote:

Privately, several House Democrats concede their latest bill feels like little more than an effort to appease the most liberal members of the caucus, many of whom were chafed that their most important priorities were minimized or ignored entirely in previous coronavirus negotiations.

The Heroes Act reportedly contains many leftist provisions in the bill, including:

  • $755 million for the government for Washington, DC. The bill would also allow the D.C. government to participate in the Federal Reserve’s Municipal Liquidity (MLF) to support additional lending to the city.
  • $1 million for the National Science Foundation to study the spread of coronavirus-related “disinformation.”
  • $10 million for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) as well as $10 million fo the National Endowment for the Humanities.
  • Eliminates limitations on the federal deduction for the state and local taxes (SALT). Republicans limited this deduction through the Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The SALT deduction primarily benefits wealthy, largely Democrat states.
  • Grants additional aid for State and local government bailouts. The bill contains $500 billion in funding for state government relief and $375 billion in aid to local governments. Senate Republicans such as Sens. Rick Scott (R-FL) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) have contended this will particularly aid fiscally irresponsible blue states such as California, New York, and Illinois to the detriment of more fiscally responsible states such as Texas and Florida.
  • $25 million for migrant and seasonal farmworkers, including emergency support services through the Department of Labor.
  • $1.7 billion for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) and Minority Serving Institutions, $20 million for Howard University, $11 million for Gallaudet University, $11 million for the National Technical Institute for the Deaf.
  • $15 million to maintain operations, rental assistance supportive services, and other actions to mitigate the impact on low-income people with HIV/AIDS through the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
  • Create a two month special enrollment period for Obamacare. The bill also extends full premium subsidies to allow workers to maintain their health insurance coverage through COBRA.
  • Allows Attorney General William Barr to make grants to states to create state-run hate crime reporting hotlines.
  • Relief for up to $10,000 of up-front debt relief for all Department of Education loan borrowers.
  • Authorizes up to $50 million in Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) “environmental justice” grants to investigate or address the disproportionate impact of coronavirus in environmental communities.
  • $75 billion for housing assistance.
  • Mandatory early voting for every state and mandatory mail-in ballots for every state. Nate Madden, a press secretary for the House Oversight Committee Republicans, said it would be a “nightmare scenario for voter fraud.”
  • Allows wealthy people who make money from dividends and royalties to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is designed for lower-income Americans.
  • Extends assistance designed for nonprofits to political action groups and chamber of commerce-style associations. Open Markets Institute fellow Matt Stoller called it a “corporate lobbyist bailout.”

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Everything you have posted is made-up bullshit by you, there is no link to any of your bullshit posts.

 

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4 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Everything you have posted is made-up bullshit by you, there is no link to any of your bullshit posts.

 

Try google

 

  • Stimulus checks for state and federal inmates.
  • $360 billion for state and local bailouts that predominantly benefit liberal states.
  • Nearly $1 billion for Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor railway, a woefully mismanaged public railway system.
  • $645 million for the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) and the Institute for Library and Museum Services.
  • $570 million paid leave benefit, available exclusively for federal employees to keep their children home when public schools refuse to reopen.

 

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41 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Try google

 

  • Stimulus checks for state and federal inmates.
  • $360 billion for state and local bailouts that predominantly benefit liberal states.
  • Nearly $1 billion for Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor railway, a woefully mismanaged public railway system.
  • $645 million for the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) and the Institute for Library and Museum Services.
  • $570 million paid leave benefit, available exclusively for federal employees to keep their children home when public schools refuse to reopen.

 

Still no link.  

So minus all the money that the liberals got where did the rest of the 900 billion go?

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2 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

Try google

You are the one making the post and are supposed to provide a link to your posts, not me. 

I did see you like Politico, remember that in the future.

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5 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

You are the one making the post and are supposed to provide a link to your posts, not me. 

I did see you like Politico, remember that in the future.

Just admit you’re FOS

 

Bill funds D.C. coronavirus response at state, city and county levels, retroactively fixes D.C. treatment in CARES Act, and authorizes participation in Federal Reserve funding

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The office of Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) announced that Norton successfully got three provisions vital to the District of Columbia included in the Heroes Act, the phase-five coronavirus response bill passed today in the House. Norton secured state-, city-, and county-level funding for the District; $755 million in retroactive funding to fix D.C.'s treatment as a territory instead of a state in the CARES Act; and authorization for D.C. to participate in the Municipal Liquidity Facility (MLF) the Federal Reserve is establishing.

According to estimates, the Heroes Act would provide D.C. this year with $1.5 billion. at the state level, $740 million at the city level, and $264 million at the county level, for a total of $2.5billion, to address the coronavirus health and economic s crisis. Norton argued, "D.C. uniquely provides state-city-county services to residents, so it should follow that the District receives funding at all three levels."

The MLF is being established to support short-term borrowing by states, cities and counties for coronavirus relief. Norton got a fix in the Heroes Act authorizing D.C.'s participation in the MLF. "We do not yet know when or whether D.C. will need to participate in the MLF, but we could not. afford to wait to get this authorization," No

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5 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

You are the one making the post and are supposed to provide a link to your posts, not me. 

I did see you like Politico, remember that in the future.

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/people-who-are-in-prison-can-get-a-stimulus-check-but-theres-a-catch-what-to-know-today/

 

People who are in prison and jail are eligible to qualify for the first stimulus check of up to $1,200 per adult, but with the tight Nov. 4 deadline to file physical paperwork now passed, inmates have until Nov. 21 to file an online claim with the IRS. It is not clear how many people who are incarcerated will be able to access these online forms. Internet access is often limited in prison and rules vary from state to state.

 

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10 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

You are the one making the post and are supposed to provide a link to your posts, not me. 

I did see you like Politico, remember that in the future.

COVID bill would pay federal employees to stay home with kids

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/covid-bill-pays-federal-employees-to-stay-home-with-kids

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2 hours ago, Sleepr2 said:

https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/people-who-are-in-prison-can-get-a-stimulus-check-but-theres-a-catch-what-to-know-today/

 

People who are in prison and jail are eligible to qualify for the first stimulus check of up to $1,200 per adult, but with the tight Nov. 4 deadline to file physical paperwork now passed, inmates have until Nov. 21 to file an online claim with the IRS. It is not clear how many people who are incarcerated will be able to access these online forms. Internet access is often limited in prison and rules vary from state to state.

 

This has zero to do with the 900 billion in PPP, try to stay on topic for once.

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