Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, Cat45 said: Why is it so hard to understand that new gun laws only take rights away from the law abiding citizens. The criminals don't care about the laws, if they did they wouldn't be criminals. We have a law saying it's illegal to kill people, does that stop murders? Then stop making it so easy for them to get them. What is so hard to understand about that. If all it takes to fool your system for Johnny P. Methhead is to have his GF buy the gun he picks out it doesn't take a genius to see you are the cause of your own problems. Keep flooding the streets with guns and what do you expect to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 25, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, HSR said: Then stop making it so easy for them to get them. What is so hard to understand about that. If all it takes to fool your system for Johnny P. Methhead is to have his GF buy the gun he picks out it doesn't take a genius to see you are the cause of your own problems. Keep flooding the streets with guns and what do you expect to happen? It's the fact that that simple law is ignored by our gvmt that makes legal gun owners respond with " fuck you" when there is talk of more gun laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, HSR said: Then stop making it so easy for them to get them. What is so hard to understand about that. If all it takes to fool your system for Johnny P. Methhead is to have his GF buy the gun he picks out it doesn't take a genius to see you are the cause of your own problems. Keep flooding the streets with guns and what do you expect to happen? So how do you propose to fix that problem? If the gf has nothing on her record to prevent her from buying a gun how do you justify not allowing it? I know freedom and fighting for your rights is a foreign concept to you since canada never has had to fight for independence. Will you be ok with the government taking your hunting rifles? It could easily happen since they already outlawed a bunch of different weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 25, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Cat45 said: So how do you propose to fix that problem? If the gf has nothing on her record to prevent her from buying a gun how do you justify not allowing it? I know freedom and fighting for your rights is a foreign concept to you since canada never has had to fight for independence. Will you be ok with the government taking your hunting rifles? It could easily happen since they already outlawed a bunch of different weapons Simple, ATF has the right to inspect each gun store once a yr. Go in , read their book. Take pics of female buyers and go to theior home and ask to see the gun. Expensive , sure , but probably the most effective way to combat guns in the hands of criminals. But it will do jack shit if they are not prosecuted. That in itself creates a whole new slew of problems as most have kids and inprisoning them means more kids in the foster system , even thou most will probably be better off not growing up in the envirement their mother lives in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Simple, ATF has the right to inspect each gun store once a yr. Go in , read their book. Take pics of female buyers and go to theior home and ask to see the gun. Expensive , sure , but probably the most effective way to combat guns in the hands of criminals. But it will do jack shit if they are not prosecuted. That in itself creates a whole new slew of problems as most have kids and inprisoning them means more kids in the foster system , even thou most will probably be better off not growing up in the envirement their mother lives in. If that was the only option or have gun confiscation like canada i guess it would be tolerable. There's always that slippery slope of a gun register and the government sticking their nose where it doesn't belong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cat45 said: So how do you propose to fix that problem? If the gf has nothing on her record to prevent her from buying a gun how do you justify not allowing it? I know freedom and fighting for your rights is a foreign concept to you since canada never has had to fight for independence. Will you be ok with the government taking your hunting rifles? It could easily happen since they already outlawed a bunch of different weapons I'm pretty sure you had fuck all to do with fighting for independence I don't live my life in fear of "what if?" sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cat45 said: So how do you propose to fix that problem? If the gf has nothing on her record to prevent her from buying a gun how do you justify not allowing it? I know freedom and fighting for your rights is a foreign concept to you since canada never has had to fight for independence. Will you be ok with the government taking your hunting rifles? It could easily happen since they already outlawed a bunch of different weapons Good effort on your points same results 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Simple, ATF has the right to inspect each gun store once a yr. Go in , read their book. Take pics of female buyers and go to theior home and ask to see the gun. Expensive , sure , but probably the most effective way to combat guns in the hands of criminals. But it will do jack shit if they are not prosecuted. That in itself creates a whole new slew of problems as most have kids and inprisoning them means more kids in the foster system , even thou most will probably be better off not growing up in the envirement their mother lives in. I appreciate that you at least have a suggestion on how to make things better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, HSR said: I'm pretty sure you had fuck all to do with fighting for independence I don't live my life in fear of "what if?" sorry. Sure sounds like you live in fear of "what if an illegal gun from another country comes to my country" maybe you should focus on what your government is doing to stop the weapons coming in. Most of these are perfectly legal here but your daddy government doesn't think you're capable of handling them. Must suck to be a bootlicker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cat45 said: Sure sounds like you live in fear of "what if an illegal gun from another country comes to my country" maybe you should focus on what your government is doing to stop the weapons coming in. Most of these are perfectly legal here but your daddy government doesn't think you're capable of handling them. Must suck to be a bootlicker. They have been here for years causing crime. Maybe our government should look at the source not the route much like drugs. Sorry but perfectly legal guns aren't getting smuggled into Canada. Name calling I'm done with you. Your post really didn't deserve a response it's so bizarre. EDIT: Google 1812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 25, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, HSR said: I appreciate that you at least have a suggestion on how to make things better. Every responsable gun owner wants to see guns out of the hands of criminals. But all pols ever suggest is do nothing , feel good legislation. That being said , trying to combat illegal guns is as tough as combating illegal drugs. If there is a demand and someone can make money supplying that demand . The illegal gun market will continue to flourish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, HSR said: They have been here for years causing crime. Maybe our government should look at the source not the route much like drugs. Sorry but perfectly legal guns aren't getting smuggled into Canada. Name calling I'm done with you. Your post really didn't deserve a response it's so bizarre. So what weapons are being smuggled that you're so worried about that aren't legal in the states? What will you do if your government says your rifles are illegal? I bet you turn them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Too late the guns are here to stay no matter what the government does, we have way too many guns in circulation in this country that are not registered let alone the registered guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 They are here, but nothing stopping us from maintaining the laws we have and greatly increasing the punishment for any illegal gun use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 20 hours ago, HSR said: Sorry I'm not buy it. Maybe back when cable news was the source but I don't think China is filtering TikTok or Elon doing it on Twitter. There is just way too many ways for that kinda news to get out such as a forum like this. Why would the pro gun states hide that kind of news? Saying it's "The Man" keeping it quiet isn't a valid argument point for me. Because thats how the algorithms work. The news feeds and information you see on Facebook, twitter, youtube or even just google, are all based off what they track you watching most. You dont even have to click on a link, they track how long you look at the links as you scroll through. The "random" links that you see will be drastically different than mine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 20 hours ago, HSR said: You mean like this from 4 days ago? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ghost-guns-canada-1.6884071 EDIT: we treat then the same as all the illegal handguns here from the US. But what do you actually think qualifies as a ghost gun? Especially how they differ for us vs you guys, as im sure your laws in terms of making your own guns are extremely restrictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 18 hours ago, Cat45 said: So how do you propose to fix that problem? If the gf has nothing on her record to prevent her from buying a gun how do you justify not allowing it? I know freedom and fighting for your rights is a foreign concept to you since canada never has had to fight for independence. Will you be ok with the government taking your hunting rifles? It could easily happen since they already outlawed a bunch of different weapons They already are. There are single shot hunting rifles on the current list of guns they're trying to ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tommcat said: They already are. There are single shot hunting rifles on the current list of guns they're trying to ban. Yeah i can see in the not so distant future the canucks loosing what little gun rights they still have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tommcat said: They already are. There are single shot hunting rifles on the current list of guns they're trying to ban. They will lose any battle to take away hunting rifles to the First Nations. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Simple, ATF has the right to inspect each gun store once a yr. Go in , read their book. Take pics of female buyers and go to theior home and ask to see the gun. Expensive , sure , but probably the most effective way to combat guns in the hands of criminals. But it will do jack shit if they are not prosecuted. That in itself creates a whole new slew of problems as most have kids and inprisoning them means more kids in the foster system , even thou most will probably be better off not growing up in the envirement their mother lives in. Exactly how is that legal with no warrant or probable cause of a crime? Edited June 26, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Exactly how is that legal? Since when does the atf concern themselves with being legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, HSR said: They will lose any battle to take away hunting rifles to the First Nations. Not a chance. Well, the current weapons list Trudeau is pushing, makes no distinction for who can have them. Banned is banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tommcat said: Since when does the atf concern themselves with being legal? I agree however if they came to see a gun I or my wife purchased they better come with a warrant or I'd tell them on video that I respectfully decline. They go after way less than 1% of the people that lie on their 4473's. How about we start there and don't give a slap on the wrist like Hunter got. The FBI, in reviewing instant background checks for firearm purchases, detected 112,000 lie-and-try crimes in fiscal 2017 alone, and federal investigators had names and addresses on the filled-out forms. How many were prosecuted? Twelve, according to a recent Government Accountability Office report. Edited June 26, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tommcat said: Well, the current weapons list Trudeau is pushing, makes no distinction for who can have them. Banned is banned It might help if you guys didn't have so much gun violence and mass shootings in the news every week. Gives the libs lots to be scared about. Now are you guys really trying to turn this thread around to be about Canada?? Wow. Zero mass shootings this year is all you need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Exactly how is that legal with no warrant or probable cause of a crime? Then have em get a warrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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