Cold War Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Did they float it over with a balloon? I don’t know what is sadder the government and media thinking the general population is this stupid or the general population really being this stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 While we’re at it, sorry about that Fentanyl thing with all the dead Americans and all….. yeah .. tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Wont this fuck up the CIA's illegal drug trafficking business or is this so they can kill off the cartels that are threatening it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 hours ago, SkisNH said: No doubt...I was only commenting on the complicity of the Mexican govt. This is a "war" that I would fight..but I think if we cut off foreign aide and close the boarder it would be equally effective. Private armies aren't cheap.... Border control will never stop the flow of substances. Too many options at the cartel’s disposal. Fact remains that America needs Mexico for a strong North American economy. To alienate Mexico would be a tremendous mistake. The capacity for the intermediate type of production skill doesn’t exist here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 Better warn American's to stay out of the tourist area's. Cartels would retaliate in those locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Highmark said: Better warn American's to stay out of the tourist area's. Cartels would retaliate in those locations. The cartels own the majority of the establishments in those areas. Hotels, restaurants, entertainment facilities. Why would they do that to themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The cartels own the majority of the establishments in those areas. Hotels, restaurants, entertainment facilities. Why would they do that to themselves? Because there are a number of cartels and the war would be just as much against the other cartels as the US. There is becoming more fear of that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Highmark said: Better warn American's to stay out of the tourist area's. Cartels would retaliate in those locations. Couldn't pay me to visit Mexico. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Border control will never stop the flow of substances. Too many options at the cartel’s disposal. Fact remains that America needs Mexico for a strong North American economy. To alienate Mexico would be a tremendous mistake. The capacity for the intermediate type of production skill doesn’t exist here. Boarder control won't stop it...but it will slow it. Unfortunately for the people suffering from opioid addiction. The plentiful supply makes a heroine/fentanyl high cheaper than a 6 pack of good beer. Of course we don't alienate mexico completely. Just the threat of losing the foreign aide will get the govt back in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Border control will never stop the flow of substances. Too many options at the cartel’s disposal. Fact remains that America needs Mexico for a strong North American economy. To alienate Mexico would be a tremendous mistake. The capacity for the intermediate type of production skill doesn’t exist here. bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Boarder control won't stop it...but it will slow it. Unfortunately for the people suffering from opioid addiction. The plentiful supply makes a heroine/fentanyl high cheaper than a 6 pack of good beer. Of course we don't alienate mexico completely. Just the threat of losing the foreign aide will get the govt back in line. All slowing it does is increase the cost , therefore forc ing junkies to commit more crimes for their high . Let it flow cheap and let the chips and junkies fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: All slowing it does is increase the cost , therefore forc ing junkies to commit more crimes for their high . Let it flow cheap and let the chips and junkies fall. The libertarian in me agrees...the problem is when you watch your friend lose a son to it breaks your heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Anler said: Wont this fuck up the CIA's illegal drug trafficking business or is this so they can kill off the cartels that are threatening it? All you need to look at is what the President of El Salvatore is doing to the drug scum there and the pushback from your MSM and Neolibs to understand who are the real drug dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: All slowing it does is increase the cost , therefore forc ing junkies to commit more crimes for their high . Let it flow cheap and let the chips and junkies fall. I didn’t see any meaningful change in cost over the years. Even during higher levels of interdiction the cost of heroin fell. Now with fentanyl and some of its analogies being so much more potent it’s possible to fit 100 doses into the same size space as 1. Cartels have so many options for transporting drugs other than through border crossings. Submarines, tunnels, drones, aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: The cartels own the majority of the establishments in those areas. Hotels, restaurants, entertainment facilities. Why would they do that to themselves? They own your Dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, SkisNH said: The libertarian in me agrees...the problem is when you watch your friend lose a son to it breaks your heart. It is heartbreaking. But that dosnt change the fact that a junkie will junkie. And nothing but the junkie him/herslef will change that. Used to be such a pretty , used to be such a pretty used to be such a pretty such a pretty girl . Used to be such a pretty isnt it a fucking pitty , used to be such a pretty ,such a pretty girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: They own your Dems. You and analer should have a SeaEyeAye conspiracy circle jerk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: All slowing it does is increase the cost , therefore forc ing junkies to commit more crimes for their high . Let it flow cheap and let the chips and junkies fall. Make it here sell it here. Keep it cheap even free in some cases. No paid for rehab on the taxpayer dime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I didn’t see any meaningful change in cost over the years. Even during higher levels of interdiction the cost of heroin fell. Now with fentanyl and some of its analogies being so much more potent it’s possible to fit 100 doses into the same size space as 1. Cartels have so many options for transporting drugs other than through border crossings. Submarines, tunnels, drones, aircraft. If there is a demand for a commodity and someone can make money filling that demand , someone will .Capitalism 101 . And thats not a slam against capitalism, it exists even in societys where normal capitalism dosnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Make it here sell it here. Keep it cheap even free in some cases. No paid for rehab on the taxpayer dime. Darlene on Oxark agree's with you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: They own your Dems. They own alot. $30 billion per year buys alot of influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: If there is a demand for a commodity and someone can make money filling that demand , someone will .Capitalism 101 . And thats not a slam against capitalism, it exists even in societys where normal capitalism dosnt. The challenge is coming up with better and more effective drugs. I’m not sure how they’re going to top the current supply of meth and fentanyl. There’s this new drug called xylazine that’s been making some inroads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 13, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The challenge is coming up with better and more effective drugs. I’m not sure how they’re going to top the current supply of meth and fentanyl. There’s this new drug called xylazine that’s been making some inroads. It is devestating the Philidelphia hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: It is devestating the Philidelphia hood. I guess it’s been hitting Milwaukee and madison pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: It is devestating the Philidelphia hood. 2 hours ago, spin_dry said: I guess it’s been hitting Milwaukee and madison pretty hard. For the life of me, I can't put my finger on what those 3 cities have in common... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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