Cold War Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 And lets not forget how victims are merely numbers and pawns everyone uses as they eagerly wait for race or political affiliation assignment, then pounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Yes you are. Guns do kill people. If guns didn't exist people wouldn't be killed by them. Guns kill no one, people kill people by the many means available to them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, XCR1250 said: Guns kill no one, people kill people by the many means available to them.. And if there's no guns the people wouldn't use them to kill people. Why do you think Indians started using guns instead of bow and arrows? Because it was easier to kill alot of people at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: correct , it isnt. Yet a lot more then 1/2 of those collisions resulting in death are avoidable Agreed and indisputable but again no comparison to mass shootings,same goes for smoking. It falls back to people not wanting to have a serious discussion on gun control. Some feel that "all or nothing" are the only options. 4 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Nope, I'm not, guns don't kill people. Readily available guns make killing people soooooo much easier though, you can't argue that. Thunder Bay Ont. was the murder capital of Canada again last year(per capita) and none of the 15 murders were with guns Now do I know that number would be far higher if the Native street gangs could get handguns? Yes I can confidently say it would be far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: And if there's no guns the people wouldn't use them to kill people. Why do you think Indians started using guns instead of bow and arrows? Because it was easier to kill alot of people at once. Bombs are easier than guns and easy to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, XCR1250 said: Bombs are easier than guns and easy to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, HSR said: Agreed and indisputable but again no comparison to mass shootings,same goes for smoking. It falls back to people not wanting to have a serious discussion on gun control. Some feel that "all or nothing" are the only options. Readily available guns make killing people soooooo much easier though, you can't argue that. Thunder Bay Ont. was the murder capital of Canada again last year(per capita) and none of the 15 murders were with guns Now do I know that number would be far higher if the Native street gangs could get handguns? Yes I can confidently say it would be far worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate Look at the differance between MA and NH . MA has very strict gun laws. NH has no laws aside from federal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, HSR said: Agreed and indisputable but again no comparison to mass shootings,same goes for smoking. It falls back to people not wanting to have a serious discussion on gun control. Some feel that "all or nothing" are the only options. Readily available guns make killing people soooooo much easier though, you can't argue that. Thunder Bay Ont. was the murder capital of Canada again last year(per capita) and none of the 15 murders were with guns Now do I know that number would be far higher if the Native street gangs could get handguns? Yes I can confidently say it would be far worse. Im a lot more concerned with drivers with cell phones then I ever will be about guns. No one ever fucked me up with a gun. I wish I could say that about drivers with cell phones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate Look at the differance between MA and NH . MA has very strict gun laws. NH has no laws aside from federal Do they have similar standards of living,population and ethnic diversity?? I have zero idea. It's easy to cherry pick areas to back either side of the discussion so not really a great point. We can agree that smoking deaths among countries that smoke are similar and same for countries that drive, but what developed country can challenge the US on gun related murder/mass shootings/school shootings? BTW I'm not a gun control freak, I just think something has to change. The US is the main supplier of illegal guns in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, HSR said: Do they have similar standards of living,population and ethnic diversity?? I have zero idea. It's easy to cherry pick areas to back either side of the discussion so not really a great point. We can agree that smoking deaths among countries that smoke are similar and same for countries that drive, but what developed country can challenge the US on gun related murder/mass shootings/school shootings? BTW I'm not a gun control freak, I just think something has to change. The US is the main supplier of illegal guns in Canada. How many people killed by bombs in Canada? They're real easy to make I've been told!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, HSR said: Do they have similar standards of living,population and ethnic diversity?? I have zero idea. It's easy to cherry pick areas to back either side of the discussion so not really a great point. We can agree that smoking deaths among countries that smoke are similar and same for countries that drive, but what developed country can challenge the US on gun related murder/mass shootings/school shootings? BTW I'm not a gun control freak, I just think something has to change. The US is the main supplier of illegal guns in Canada. Ma has a little higher income / education level. NH is definatly whiter then MA NH also has an older population , older people tend to kill a little less. If Canada worked with the US ATF they could put a stop to illegal guns. That would be a lot of work. No one wants to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: How many people killed by bombs in Canada? They're real easy to make I've been told!!!! Not as many since the cops cracked down after danny got killed. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-biker-war-victim-daniel-desrochers-11-remembered-20-years-later-1.3184885 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Not as many since the cops cracked down after danny got killed. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-biker-war-victim-daniel-desrochers-11-remembered-20-years-later-1.3184885 Bikers loved their bombs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Bikers loved their bombs. especially Canadian bikers, as guns are harder to come by. Kinda like when I want steak for dinner but we dont have any . Ill eat the chicken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Steve753 said: How many people killed by bombs in Canada? They're real easy to make I've been told!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Maybe let all the people incarcerated for selling a plant free and then make it automatic 25 years for possession of illegal firearms. No exceptions, no reductions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, HSR said: Maybe let all the people incarcerated for selling a plant free and then make it automatic 25 years for possession of illegal firearms. No exceptions, no reductions. works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 The answer to stopping mass shootings - Stop Shooting - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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