2 Fatalities In Vilas County

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17 hours ago, Doug said:

I just put this on a Wisconsin Snowmobile facebook page.  We'll see what type of responses it gets

The deaths we’re seeing so far are very sad to the family, friends and the sport.   It’s very sad.  But there is other factors than speed and alcohol that play into unsafe conditions on the trails.

Sled maintenance.  How many have had somebody slide from the inside of the corner out to your side of the trails?  Everybody.  The operator has the skis turned as far as the can and the sled just slides in your lane.  When was the last time the runners were checked on their sleds?  Is there any left or are they worn down to the skis?  I work on sleds and it amazes me how much this is over looked and when you bring it up the owner they don’t want to spend $80.00 to keep a sled in control going around a corner.  Keeping a sled in control on the trail is upmost of safety.

Slower riding groups.  I think it’s great when you see families out for a nice ride.  Kids riding 2 up great to see.  When you notice a sled coming up behind you simple pull over in a safe spot and let them by.  Simple trail manners.  If you’re trying to keep them behind you chances are you putting yourself in a bad situation and riding over your head.  Just let them by.  For the leader of these groups when see a group of sleds that are behind your group when you stop at a stop sign let them by.  DON’T quick go and try to get your group to ride faster to stay ahead.  You’re now putting your whole group into a bad situation.  Motion for your group to pull over and let the quicker group go by. 

Good post but slower riders aren't causing accidents.  Your sled going where you point it is huge.  I've always said for beginner riders....make sure they are warm and make sure the sled goes quickly where its steered and reality the 2nd point is critical for every sled.  

Reality is head on collisions causing death are relatively rare.   All you have to do is look at the statistics most deaths are getting hit by a car (which absolutely baffles me) to the most common collision with a stationary object (most likely a tree).      

[snoughnut]

20 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Bingo…a newbie buys a new 850 and doesn’t realize now quickly you can end up in the cabbage or worse.

Yep, these new sleds are lightning quick. I just read the WI DNR report on this current Vilas accident. The 43 year old was at fault, he was coming around a slightly uphill curve and was way on the wrong side of the trail wiping both sleds out and ejecting both riders. I smell a lawsuit on this one.

[Jimmy Snacks]

1 hour ago, snoughnut said:

Yep, these new sleds are lightning quick. I just read the WI DNR report on this current Vilas accident. The 43 year old was at fault, he was coming around a slightly uphill curve and was way on the wrong side of the trail wiping both sleds out and ejecting both riders. I smell a lawsuit on this one.

Goddamn….I’m honestly surprised there aren’t more accidents and fatalities…from what I read on FB there are ALOT of close calls.

[DriftBusta]

2 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Bingo…a newbie buys a new 850 and doesn’t realize now quickly you can end up in the cabbage or worse.

My 32 year old daughter who grew up on sleds as a kid recently says to me, "i want to go snowmobiling again".  She's a mother of 2 now, and I honestly wouldn't want her to.  I barely trust myself out there on the main trails with all the yahoos out there.

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On 2/2/2023 at 8:15 PM, racinfarmer said:

There is a reason I wear a Tekvest and a reason we've been riding the places less traveled. 

Mostly no northern WI, no UP, no Norf Shore, etc.

Too many close calls the last 2-3 years.  Put a helmet on and forget how to behave like a normal human.  

When the buffoons' on MN Snowmobilers ask where to go, I always tell them Brainerd and the Norf shore.  Always.

I got pushed off a left hand turn last week. not real high speed and luckily plenty of room to run off. Guy came around the corner first in his group completely on the left side berm. I turned out right and he ran right over my tracks about 10 feet behind me. Never slowed down or looked back. His buddies ignored my hand salutations as they passed. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

Eesshhh…hate to see this…about an hour from me…

 

[Jerry 976]

On 2/2/2023 at 8:26 PM, Badger** said:

Unforgettable.  

 

On 2/3/2023 at 1:45 PM, Jerry 976 said:

Honest question, Where did you get that picture from???

That picture looks a like a pic posted on HCS years ago by SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) when his dad was killed in a head on accident at night on Indian Lake in New York??? I'm Not saying it's the same Picture but reminded me about Kyle's father getting killed and the person who hit his dad head on and the assholes riding with the other guy who died taking off. Kyle stayed on the ice with his deceased father and the other person while his wife rode to shore for help. I'm trying to find in this thread and the other thread in the general snowmobile forum on here where it says the accident left two people dead on the ice???? Do you happen to have any links or info to go with your picture above???

@Badger** I'll ask you again Rob, where did you get that Picture from??

All of the internet searches and Google searches I've looked at for Snowmobile accidents 2022-2023 in Vilas County NONE of them say anything about 2 people lying dead on the ice or a picture like yours to go with the news articles. I reached out to someone on HCS and they are looking around the forums for the thread about SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) dad's accident on Indian Lake in New York. I told the person I reached out to the thread may have been deleted per Kyle's request for pending legal reasons or it may have gotten deleted or it's possible in one of the software upgrades and changes the thread might still be there but the picture(s) are gone.

Why would you post a picture like that if it has nothing to do with the current accidents that have happened in Vilas County????

[Jerry 976]

On 2/3/2023 at 11:32 AM, HSR said:

Very sad but why would someone take a pic when there is people laying dead?

I'm sure the families wouldn't appreciate the scene being posted, seems morbid.

I'm pretty sure that is a pic SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) took while waiting for help and to document as much as he could before things got moved around. It's Possible the thread(s) and pics on HCS got deleted for pending legal reasons....I/we don't have access to that kind of info anymore.... 

[Doug]

13 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said:

 

@Badger** I'll ask you again Rob, where did you get that Picture from??

All of the internet searches and Google searches I've looked at for Snowmobile accidents 2022-2023 in Vilas County NONE of them say anything about 2 people lying dead on the ice or a picture like yours to go with the news articles. I reached out to someone on HCS and they are looking around the forums for the thread about SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) dad's accident on Indian Lake in New York. I told the person I reached out to the thread may have been deleted per Kyle's request for pending legal reasons or it may have gotten deleted or it's possible in one of the software upgrades and changes the thread might still be there but the picture(s) are gone.

Why would you post a picture like that if it has nothing to do with the current accidents that have happened in Vilas County????

This one appears to be the one that happened on Lake Gogebic in Michigan a couple years ago.

[Jerry 976]

1 minute ago, Doug said:

This one appears to be the one that happened on Lake Gogebic in Michigan a couple years ago.

Thank you Doug, I still don't get why he would post that pic if it has Nothing to do with the recent accidents in Vilas County???

[awful knawful]

On 2/3/2023 at 1:59 PM, Doug said:

Have almost 3000 miles on this year and only rode one Saturday. That was one Saturday to many.  Fast and slow riders doing stupid things.

I'm with you. I refuse to sled on the weekend.

[Jerry 976]

21 minutes ago, Doug said:

This one appears to be the one that happened on Lake Gogebic in Michigan a couple years ago.

I can't find the pic but a quick google search someone said the pic is posted on DooTalk, I couldn't find that pic on there either, but thanks again Doug Tooo many accidents we've all read about over the years on theses forums.......

[Doug]

49 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said:

I can't find the pic but a quick google search someone said the pic is posted on DooTalk, I couldn't find that pic on there either, but thanks again Doug Tooo many accidents we've all read about over the years on theses forums.......

We were up in the area and rode the lake earlier in the day the day it happened in 2019.  Word spread pretty fast. There was some similar pics floating around after it happened of the sleds burning.

Edited February 5, 2023 by Doug

[Jerry 976]

On 2/2/2023 at 8:26 PM, Badger** said:

Unforgettable.  

 

On 2/3/2023 at 1:45 PM, Jerry 976 said:

Honest question, Where did you get that picture from???

That picture looks a like a pic posted on HCS years ago by SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) when his dad was killed in a head on accident at night on Indian Lake in New York??? I'm Not saying it's the same Picture but reminded me about Kyle's father getting killed and the person who hit his dad head on and the assholes riding with the other guy who died taking off. Kyle stayed on the ice with his deceased father and the other person while his wife rode to shore for help. I'm trying to find in this thread and the other thread in the general snowmobile forum on here where it says the accident left two people dead on the ice???? Do you happen to have any links or info to go with your picture above???

 

On 2/5/2023 at 11:40 AM, Jerry 976 said:

 

@Badger** I'll ask you again Rob, where did you get that Picture from??

All of the internet searches and Google searches I've looked at for Snowmobile accidents 2022-2023 in Vilas County NONE of them say anything about 2 people lying dead on the ice or a picture like yours to go with the news articles. I reached out to someone on HCS and they are looking around the forums for the thread about SmokinShift600cfi (Kyle) dad's accident on Indian Lake in New York. I told the person I reached out to the thread may have been deleted per Kyle's request for pending legal reasons or it may have gotten deleted or it's possible in one of the software upgrades and changes the thread might still be there but the picture(s) are gone.

Why would you post a picture like that if it has nothing to do with the current accidents that have happened in Vilas County????

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2 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said:

 

 

Maybe you're on ignore?? @Badger** ?? 

[Jerry 976]

Just now, HSR said:

Maybe you're on ignore?? @Badger** ?? 

I think you're on Ignore too or is it your.................. 

[Jerry 976]

27 minutes ago, HSR said:

Maybe you're on ignore?? @Badger** ?? 

 

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[EvilBird]

On 2/5/2023 at 12:20 PM, Jerry 976 said:

I can't find the pic but a quick google search someone said the pic is posted on DooTalk, I couldn't find that pic on there either, but thanks again Doug Tooo many accidents we've all read about over the years on theses forums.......

I remember that pic on HCS as well. 

 

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28 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

I remember that pic on HCS as well. 

 

Me too  I'm wondering why Badger just won't come and answer? Very weird.

If you call me an asshole or something I'm sure he'll "like" that post and see this.

[Jimmy Snacks]

Damn…not too far from…older gentleman riding with his son and family friend. RIP

 

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18 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Damn…not too far from…older gentleman riding with his son and family friend. RIP

 

[EvilBird]

My Wife loves sledding but I am so nervous when we are out there with all the idiots on the weekend. 

I try to take the less traveled trails . I wish she could ride mid week but her schedule wont allow it at this time. 

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Just now, EvilBird said:

My Wife loves sledding but I am so nervous when we are out there with all the idiots on the weekend. 

I try to take the less traveled trails . I wish she could ride mid week but her schedule wont allow it at this time. 

Good friend of mine was out west years ago doing a trail ride day with the wife and they met some Rickey Racers one of which landed on his wife breaking her collarbone,cracked ribs and very beat up.She doesn't ride anymore. Good thing is she's breed Labradors now and that's where I got Webber from.

[EvilBird]

1 minute ago, HSR said:

Good friend of mine was out west years ago doing a trail ride day with the wife and they met some Rickey Racers one of which landed on his wife breaking her collarbone,cracked ribs and very beat up.She doesn't ride anymore. Good thing is she's breed Labradors now and that's where I got Webber from.

Wow thats fucked up. 

Shit happens fast out there . She had a little mix up this weekend and bailed on a bad corner . Didn't get hurt but it was a reminder to both of us how things go bad quick. 

[Badger**]

I lost to many friends in my life to Snowmobiling its an issue that hits home hard. That picture I posted is all you need to know two people died, I have talked about it before so there is no need to bring it up again but maybe you will remember that pic for the rest of your snowmobiling career.