In 2023 Fed, State and Local govts are expected to collect close to $9 trillion in tax revenue.   That’s $27,272 per man woman and child in this country.   Family of 4 $109,088.   Almost $5 trillion collected by the fed govt alone and we will still run a trillion dollar deficit.   Yet half our country thinks we don’t collect enough money and spend too little.  FUBAR.   

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

Edited January 24, 20232 yr by Highmark

2 hours ago, Highmark said:

In 2023 Fed, State and Local govts are expected to collect close to $9 trillion in tax revenue.   That’s $27,272 per man woman and child in this country.   Family of 4 $109,088.   Almost $5 trillion collected by the fed govt alone and we will still run a trillion dollar deficit.   Yet half our country thinks we don’t collect enough money and spend too little.  FUBAR.   

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

Already $5 trillion but if we don't collect more children will starve and we will be overthrown by terrorists.

2 hours ago, Highmark said:

In 2023 Fed, State and Local govts are expected to collect close to $9 trillion in tax revenue.   That’s $27,272 per man woman and child in this country.   Family of 4 $109,088.   Almost $5 trillion collected by the fed govt alone and we will still run a trillion dollar deficit.   Yet half our country thinks we don’t collect enough money and spend too little.  FUBAR.   

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

Now take those figures and apply them to those that actually pay income taxes.  Many poor and middle class pay no federal income taxes.

27K collected per man woman and child and then we wonder why no one can afford a car loan. 

Thanks DEMOCRATS.  And some of the rest of that Washington swamp, but keep voting for 40+ year politicians.  81million idiots and not one of them here will admit it.

22 minutes ago, racer254 said:

27K collected per man woman and child and then we wonder why no one can afford a car loan. 

Thanks DEMOCRATS.  And some of the rest of that Washington swamp, but keep voting for 40+ year politicians.  81million idiots and not one of them here will admit it.

Trump was the worst peacetime spender in history. You supported that. Pathetic 

2 hours ago, f7ben said:

Trump was the worst peacetime spender in history. You supported that. Pathetic 

Yes.  When I pointed out Trumps record debt and deficit the original poster said revenue was up, I guess that doesn't matter anymore.

3 hours ago, f7ben said:

Trump was the worst peacetime spender in history. You supported that. Pathetic 

Derp.  FFS, Keep saying the same shit over and over.  Remember 535 members + him.  But blame it on him......Yeah that's it.

 

38 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Derp.  FFS, Keep saying the same shit over and over.  Remember 535 members + him.  But blame it on him......Yeah that's it.

 

Remember the same was true in the previous 8 years?  Remember how you cried about the auto bailout and yet you still defend the guy who caused the need for the farm bailout that was larger and none of it got paid back?

2 hours ago, racer254 said:

Derp.  FFS, Keep saying the same shit over and over.  Remember 535 members + him.  But blame it on him......Yeah that's it.

 

Is the orange ring around your mouth permanent?  

2 hours ago, 1jkw said:

Remember the same was true in the previous 8 years?  Remember how you cried about the auto bailout and yet you still defend the guy who caused the need for the farm bailout that was larger and none of it got paid back?

I remember that I never supported any of these bills.  It doesn't matter if it is a dem or rep.   I also know that every POTUS before trump spent time in politics in Washington as part of those other 535.  Think about who you bitch about.  The guy who was on 4 years, or the swamp who are in for 40 +?

 

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by racer254

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

I remember that I never supported any of these bills.  It doesn't matter if it is a dem or rep.   I also know that every POTUS before trump spent time in politics in Washington as part of those other 535.  Think about who you bitch about.  The guy who was on 4 years, or the swamp who are in for 40 +?

 

You made excuses for trumps spending despite his own comments and actions. It was the biggest display of hypocrisy anyone has ever put forth on these forums. Retarded tea party Trumpers making excuses for massive government spending. 

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

I remember that I never supported any of these bills.  It doesn't matter if it is a dem or rep.   I also know that every POTUS before trump spent time in politics in Washington as part of those other 535.  Think about who you bitch about.  The guy who was on 4 years, or the swamp who are in for 40 +?

 

Then I guess you know that a guy who only spent 4 years outspent anyone in the last 40, yet you defend him at every turn. Not 1 dime spent without out your orange god's signature.

4 hours ago, SnowRider said:

Is the orange ring around your mouth permanent?  

Says the fool with DNC commemorative knee pads     

12 hours ago, racer254 said:

I remember that I never supported any of these bills.  It doesn't matter if it is a dem or rep.   I also know that every POTUS before trump spent time in politics in Washington as part of those other 535.  Think about who you bitch about.  The guy who was on 4 years, or the swamp who are in for 40 +?

 

Please list the spending bills orange man vetoed.  Thanks 

37 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Please list the spending bills orange man vetoed.  Thanks 

None,the man can be called many things, a fiscal conservative is not one of them

7 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

None,the man can be called many things, a fiscal conservative is not one of them

Who’s the last fiscal conservative Repug? 

15 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Who’s the last fiscal conservative Repug? 

I don't know, I'm only 60

That's equivalent to spending $9 a second for 31,688 years.  

Just now, Highmark said:

That's equivalent to spending $9 a second for 31,688 years.  

How can you be a self proclaimed fiscal conservative and support the guy who’s responsible for 25% of the national debt? 

6 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

How can you be a self proclaimed fiscal conservative and support the guy who’s responsible for 25% of the national debt? 

And never a thought to cutting spending.

24 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

How can you be a self proclaimed fiscal conservative and support the guy who’s responsible for 25% of the national debt? 

1. I always harped on Trumps spending.

2. Vast majority of that come in 2020 during the pandemic.  I wish he would have held firm on some of the spending but there really wasn't much choice on some of it. 

3. Congress has much more to do with spending than the POTUS.  

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by Highmark

6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

1. I always harped on Trumps spending.

2. Vast majority of that come in 2020 during the pandemic.  I wish he would have held firm on some of the spending but there really wasn't much choice on some of it. 

3. Congress has much more to do with spending than the POTUS.  

2017-18?  

23 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

2017-18?  

2017 Budget was from the previous admin/congress.....you knew that right?

2018-2020 was a major disappointment when it came to spending.   No excuse even when the Senate had means of stopping it.   Trump and the GOP should have stood strong and shut the govt down.   Again spending was one of the biggest disappointments I had with Trump but as I've also said before no candidate is going to meet every single one of your political values.   You have to choose one the meets the most of them.   Do you approve of everything Biden does? 

And sounding like a broken record around 65% of the fed budget is mandatory spending that is set by previous laws and very, very difficult to do anything about.   

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/trump-budget-cuts-size-federal-government-bolder-reforms-needed

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by Highmark

30 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

2017-18?  

They always wanna take credit on one hand for things like stock market 30k!!!!, etc. I think I even saw a thread about it, but then condemn the deficits on the other - seemingly unaware that the two are very much related.  Directly, not inversely.  It’s like, but that’s the package.  It’s like bragging up your RAM 1500 TRX’s HP but then saying you always condemned it’s fuel economy as if there’s some magical universe where the two are mutually exclusive.  

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by Plissken

38 minutes ago, Plissken said:

They always wanna take credit on one hand for things like stock market 30k!!!!, etc. I think I even saw a thread about it, but then condemn the deficits on the other - seemingly unaware that the two are very much related.  Directly, not inversely.  It’s like, but that’s the package.  It’s like bragging up your RAM 1500 TRX’s HP but then saying you always condemned it’s fuel economy as if there’s some magical universe where the two are mutually exclusive.  

The stock market sucked over the last year, yet Spending was gross too

1 minute ago, steve from amherst said:

The stock market sucked over the last year, yet Spending was gross too

Probably would have been even worse without it.  That’s the thing - you can only stimulate so much before you start getting diminishing returns.  Sort of like a cocaine habit, so I hear.