Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Where did it mention it was only surface temp?......and the overfishing claim still doesn't explain the disappearance of all life stages of crab. Russia doesn’t sort out the immature and female crab like the US does. Nor do they have size limits like the US does. They keep ‘em all. Obviously you’re not a hunter or fisherman or I wouldn’t have to explain this to you. You should stop now Why are crab still plentiful in Norway if temps are the issue? Do you know Russian’s don’t fish there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted October 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, HSR said: Russia doesn’t sort out the immature and female crab like the US does. Nor do they have size limits like the US does. They keep ‘em all. Obviously you’re not a hunter or fisherman or I wouldn’t have to explain this to you. You should stop now Why are crab still plentiful in Norway if temps are the issue? Do you know Russian’s don’t fish there? Hey asswipe.....the temps were warmer in the Bering for a time....enough to disrupt the ecosystem. End of story but more of these to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Hey asswipe.....the temps were warmer in the Bering for a time....enough to disrupt the ecosystem. End of story but more of these to come. Do yourself a favour and stop posting here It’s not your climate change fairy tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Interesting read, it doesn't give you much on what's going on up there but it's interesting. Quote The Golden King Crab Story In pursuit of the best-tasting, most sustainable King crab in the world, we travel to the far northern reaches of the Pacific Ocean. Here on the rocky, volcanic slopes of the Aleutian Islands of Alaska, we fish for Golden King crab at depths that can reach over 2,000 feet – deeper than any other commercial fishery in Alaska. Join Captains Chad, Rip and Rick along with Co-captains Kristian and Anna as they share the Golden King crab story. The great depths, remote location and cold, rough seas make Golden King crab notoriously difficult to catch. Described as the “mountain goats” of the Aleutian Islands, Goldens move up and down the walls of the Aleutian Trench at great depths. The great effort to catch Golden King crab does not go unrewarded, however; their isolated, pristine habitat give Goldens both an outstanding taste and unmatched sustainability. Alaska Golden King crab are the considered the most sustainable King crab in the world due to excellent self-management of the fishery and outstanding cooperation among the stakeholders. The fleet, scientists, native groups and state agencies work together to keep the stocks of Golden King crab at a healthy, thriving level. A data-rich approach allows for real time review of the health of fishery, providing protection from overfishing for years to come. The Bering Sea Aleutian Island Crab Rationalization Program is excellent example of that cooperation, creating a limited access program to protect the health of the Golden King crab population. Under this program, a reduced fleet of five boats harvest their individual quotas over nine months. Through The Western Alaska Community Development Association, ten percent of the allowable Golden King crab catch is allocated to Alaska villages. For the sixty-five villages that participate, fishing is critical to their livelihoods, culture and recreation. The Community Development Quota (CDQ) program adds another layer of sustainability, affording the villages an opportunity to build on their long fishing tradition through participation and investment in the Golden King crab fishery. The sixty-five participating villages have organized into six CDQ Entities who work closely with crabbers and processors. Only five boats in the worlds are equipped to harvest Golden King crab. These boats use pots that are set on longlines, a hybrid technique which is unique to Golden King crab. Bright pink pots are used as red is the first color to “disappear” at great depths below the sea, making the pots undetectable to the Goldens. Captain Chad dives into this question in his videos Why the pink pots? and Building a Better Pot. Interested in learning more about Alaska crab? Visit our blog or follow us on Instagram, Linkedin, YouTube and Twitter for news, updates from sea, beautiful crab photos and more! Keyport is committed to delivering wild seafood at its greatest. Always wild-caught using responsible fishing practices, Keyport’s seafood products are available through the finest restaurants and retailers nationwide. Best-known for premium crab, our family-owned company is built upon five generations of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, HSR said: Russia doesn’t sort out the immature and female crab like the US does. Nor do they have size limits like the US does. They keep ‘em all. Obviously you’re not a hunter or fisherman or I wouldn’t have to explain this to you. You should stop now Why are crab still plentiful in Norway if temps are the issue? Do you know Russian’s don’t fish there? Crab are plentiful in Norway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Crab are plentiful in Norway? So far so good on DC. Another species called troll crab are there but getting them to market is proving difficult. But to answer your question yes , no restrictions on Red Crab fishing there. Crab still need to be up to US standards though for size and sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted October 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, HSR said: Do yourself a favour and stop posting here It’s not your climate change fairy tale. If it annoys you....then I will continue to post here....thanks for your concern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: If it annoys you....then I will continue to post here....thanks for your concern For the win!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: If it annoys you....then I will continue to post here....thanks for your concern I'm always up for a challenge Hopefully you're a more worthy opponent than @Badger**. He had nothing in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, HSR said: So far so good on DC. Another species called troll crab are there but getting them to market is proving difficult. But to answer your question yes , no restrictions on Red Crab fishing there. Crab still need to be up to US standards though for size and sex. That’s cause Red crab are invasive species in Norway introduced by Russia. They can fish them year round…. But what the are catching in Norway on the Viking returns is very minuscule compared to what they catch in the Bering sea. king crab and most crab don’t migrate but 100 miles round trip. in the Bering sea unless the US coast guard is letting the Russians in to fish the US waters Russian fishing has no effect on US fisheries. there is something bigger at play in the demise of the Bering sea fishery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: in the Bering sea unless the US coast guard is letting the Russians in to fish the US waters Russian fishing has no effect on US fisheries. You aren't dumb enough to believe that the crab observe nations borders are you? The crab biomass moves all over the Bering sea throughout the year following their feed back and forth across nation's fishing grounds.What happens on their side affects what is happening on the US side. I feel like I'm teaching children how conservation works here. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HSR said: You aren't dumb enough to believe that the crab observe nations borders are you? The crab biomass moves all over the Bering sea throughout the year following their feed back and forth across nation's fishing grounds.What happens on their side affects what is happening on the US side. I feel like I'm teaching children how conservation works here. SMH Why are they moving to Russia then? Water maybe heating up puts them on a course to search out colder waters? Edited October 23, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Why are they moving to Russia then? Water maybe heating up puts them on a course to search out colder waters? It’s natural migration routes. Now you’re making stuff up to support your position? Maybe? Why would Russian waters be colder? They don’t have climate change?? You’re looking dumber by the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Where did it mention it was only surface temp?......and the overfishing claim still doesn't explain the disappearance of all life stages of crab. It said surface temp. Temps below about 25 feet are not usualy affected by surface temp when you are dealing with less than 10 deg. Pretty much every one with a 1/2 ass depth finder can tell you that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: It said surface temp. Temps below about 25 feet are not usualy affected by surface temp when you are dealing with less than 10 deg. Pretty much every one with a 1/2 ass depth finder can tell you that Exactly You can really tell they’ve never fished anything. Just fucking treehuggers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted October 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: It said surface temp. Temps below about 25 feet are not usualy affected by surface temp when you are dealing with less than 10 deg. Pretty much every one with a 1/2 ass depth finder can tell you that I dont see where it said surface Temps at all 12 minutes ago, HSR said: Exactly You can really tell they’ve never fished anything. Just fucking treehuggers What part of the article are you not able to comprehend where it said juvenile crabs had no pockets of cold.water to hide out from predators........oh yes, but you are the expert fisherman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, HSR said: It’s natural migration routes. Now you’re making stuff up to support your position? Maybe? Why would Russian waters be colder? They don’t have climate change?? You’re looking dumber by the post. To Russia it is not. Alaskan kings don’t migrate but 50 miles 1 way from the breeding grounds. Places in Russia and Norway they were introduced by the Soviet Union. Alaska king crabs range doesn’t really extended into Russia waters. They don’t migrate that far…. Unless something is forcing them out of the historical range. Adult male red king crabs in the Kodiak area have been known to migrate up to 100 miles round-trip annually, moving at times as fast as a mile per day. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=redkingcrab.rangemap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I dont see where it said surface Temps at all What part of the article are you not able to comprehend where it said juvenile crabs had no pockets of cold.water to hide out from predators........oh yes, but you are the expert fisherman Go look in to watter temp and how atmosphere temp affects water temp at diff depths then get back to me . Not rocket science here . What don't lakes freeze to the bottom, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: To Russia it is not. Alaskan kings don’t migrate but 50 miles 1 way from the breeding grounds. Places in Russia and Norway they were introduced by the Soviet Union. Alaska king crabs range doesn’t really extended into Russia waters. They don’t migrate that far…. Unless something is forcing them out of the historical range. Adult male red king crabs in the Kodiak area have been known to migrate up to 100 miles round-trip annually, moving at times as fast as a mile per day. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=redkingcrab.rangemap That is not the legal boundary It is like 12 mi that falls under us law ie fish and game /gambling etc and 200 mi war ships . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, BOHICA said: To Russia it is not. Alaskan kings don’t migrate but 50 miles 1 way from the breeding grounds. Places in Russia and Norway they were introduced by the Soviet Union. Alaska king crabs range doesn’t really extended into Russia waters. They don’t migrate that far…. Unless something is forcing them out of the historical range. Adult male red king crabs in the Kodiak area have been known to migrate up to 100 miles round-trip annually, moving at times as fast as a mile per day. https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=redkingcrab.rangemap You should really stick to selling EV’s . You’re not very good at it but this is getting sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted October 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Go look in to watter temp and how atmosphere temp affects water temp at diff depths then get back to me . Not rocket science here . What don't lakes freeze to the bottom, Well, that's your take but the article disputes that. Apparently you didn't read the article which is your perogative but here is an excerpt explaining cold water was lacking where juveniles usually thrive. Same general principal as some glaciers melting from warmer waters below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Well, that's your take but the article disputes that. Apparently you didn't read the article which is your perogative but here is an excerpt explaining cold water was lacking where juveniles usually thrive. Same general principal as some glaciers melting from warmer waters below That’s snow crab, I thought the topic was King crab? Wider goal posts now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted October 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, HSR said: That’s snow crab, I thought the topic was King crab? Wider goal posts now? Go to bed..... idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Well, that's your take but the article disputes that. Apparently you didn't read the article which is your perogative but here is an excerpt explaining cold water was lacking where juveniles usually thrive. Same general principal as some glaciers melting from warmer waters below Not reading the article no point it was pending with a pre determined outcome like all msm wast of bandwidth shit . Reality of how atmosphere affects h20 temps will show you a diff reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 23, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/feature-story/snow-crab-warming-waters Rising Temperatures and Receding Sea Ice The years 2017–2019 brought unprecedented warming to the Bering Sea. Sea ice extent was the lowest on record in 2017–2018. In 2018, for the first time, the cold pool was virtually nonexistent. ”The changes we are seeing are worrisome for Arctic species like snow crab. Temperatures suitable for them could begin to disappear in the EBS,” said Fedewa. “There are two possible ways snow crab could respond: acclimate or move.” This was all info that come out of Trump’s NOAA back in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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