Carlos Danger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anler said: It was, they had to get new conscripts trained and new weapons. Russia took and held the entire Donbass with 200k troops. Now that Russia is ramping up its going to be a blood bath on a historical level. Ukraine should have taken the peace deal and life would have gone on for everybody. Now everybody is going to die, the ones that are left anyway. If the Ukrainians can cut off the rail lines Russia is in trouble. If the Russians could not beat the Ukrainians with 200k of their best front line troops what makes you think another 200k of draft dodgers and old men will make a difference? At the rate the Russians are losing equipment they will be making their final charges on horse back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Swedes Gotlib class sub makes less noise than half of our Nuke sub fleet and was designed to sit on the bottom. Those pipes are pretty heavy gauge so you would need more than a fire cracker to split one open. The pipes are infused in concrete. The thing about underwater detonation is the water itself acts as a containment barrier. It intensifies the blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: If the Ukrainians can cut off the rail lines Russia is in trouble. If the Russians could not beat the Ukrainians with 200k of their best front line troops what makes you think another 200k of draft dodgers and old men will make a difference? At the rate the Russians are losing equipment they will be making their final charges on horse back. Dude, Russia has not attacked any (or very little) Ukrainian infrastructure during this entire endeavor. Once they do life in Ukraine is going to be non existent. take out the power, water, rail, ports, bridges, etc... Ukraine is done. they should stop now. they should make a peace deal and as part of it require Russia to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 That peace deal was going to be had a few months ago but the nato crowd didn’t appreciate it so it didn’t take place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Anler said: Dude, Russia has not attacked any (or very little) Ukrainian infrastructure during this entire endeavor. Once they do life in Ukraine is going to be non existent. take out the power, water, rail, ports, bridges, etc... Ukraine is done. they should stop now. they should make a peace deal and as part of it require Russia to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine. You are confusing Russia's military capabilities with that of the US. Russia has almost no airpower in play and what they have used is little more than air artillery. They have limited precision weapons and as every day goes by they get pushed further away from Ukraine's infrastructure. The Russian bridge from main land Russia to Crimea is a particular weakness for the Russians as is the rail lines on Ukraine's eastern border near Troitske. How are the Russians going to move all these new troops and equipment into Ukraine with all these choke points? Russia still has to protect it's border against all the other countries it has angered. And worst of all Putin is losing his propaganda war at home. Everyday the battle lines get shorter for Ukraine and their forward movement persists. Putin wanted a land bridge but from where he sits now he would be lucky to keep Crimea come spring let alone his seat of power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Anler said: It was, they had to get new conscripts trained and new weapons. Russia took and held the entire Donbass with 200k troops. Now that Russia is ramping up its going to be a blood bath on a historical level. Ukraine should have taken the peace deal and life would have gone on for everybody. Now everybody is going to die, the ones that are left anyway. Oh please. You just want cheap gas. The Ukrainians on the other hand want cheap gas. And after all. They’re just Nazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: Oh please. You just want cheap gas. The Ukrainians on the other hand want cheap gas. And after all. They’re just Nazis. My family lawyers son is a captain in the merchant marine. He was in the Black sea working on a oil rig test drilling deployment. He said that nearly every hole they drilled came up with oil. In ten years Ukraine could be a huge oil producer with many western client's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: My family lawyers son is a captain in the merchant marine. He was in the Black sea working on an oil rig test drilling deployment. He said that nearly every hole they drilled came up with oil. In ten years Ukraine could be a huge oil producer with many western client's. That’s one of two reasons why Vlad is priming on the east side of Ukraine. He wants the natural resources and doesn’t want an independent Ukraine that’s in charge of its own destiny like Poland. He wants to keep every country in the old Soviet block as backwards as his country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: That’s one of two reasons why Vlad is priming on the east side of Ukraine. He wants the natural resources and doesn’t want an independent Ukraine that’s in charge of its own destiny like Poland. He wants to keep every country in the old Soviet block as backwards as his country. Russia is a poor country always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Get a fucking clue sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 4, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Get a fucking clue sheep. Why do you post a 9 year old list that contains information that most already know and act like it’s some sort of revelation you discovered…get a fucking clue yourself.😂 Edited October 4, 2022 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Why do you post a 9 year old list that contains information that most already know and act like it’s some sort of revelation you discovered…get a fucking clue yourself.😂 Keep blaming Russia idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said: My family lawyers son is a captain in the merchant marine. He was in the Black sea working on a oil rig test drilling deployment. He said that nearly every hole they drilled came up with oil. In ten years Ukraine could be a huge oil producer with many western client's. So Ukraine (NATO because if Russia doesn't have these capabilities Ukraine certainly doesn't have them) would choose to destroy the rest of their country than let them be as they choose? I gotta tell you, Russia does not sound like the villain here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Anler said: So Ukraine (NATO because if Russia doesn't have these capabilities Ukraine certainly doesn't have them) would choose to destroy the rest of their country than let them be as they choose? I gotta tell you, Russia does not sound like the villain here. The Ukrainians don't have much in the way of weapons as they are a ex soviet block country but they have trained soldiers as they have been training with NATO forces for almost ten years now. They have been very clever and opportunistic in their pursuit of this war where as Russia is running a play book from WWI. Russia has been carving up southern Ukraine for ten years so my sympathy is low for their current plight. I don't see how the world would have been better served by having a puppet government in Kyiv of Russia's choosing. What did Biden's guy say at the UN? If Ukraine stops fighting Ukraine no longer exists if Russia stops fighting the war is over. Simple have Russian troops pick up it's dead bodies on it's way back to the mother land and keep all the Russian transplants in Crimea who fled back to the home land. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 No proof of who blew up the pipe line by now,tells us who was behind it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The Ukrainians don't have much in the way of weapons as they are a ex soviet block country but they have trained soldiers as they have been training with NATO forces for almost ten years now. They have been very clever and opportunistic in their pursuit of this war where as Russia is running a play book from WWI. Russia has been carving up southern Ukraine for ten years so my sympathy is low for their current plight. I don't see how the world would have been better served by having a puppet government in Kyiv of Russia's choosing. What did Biden's guy say at the UN? If Ukraine stops fighting Ukraine no longer exists if Russia stops fighting the war is over. Simple have Russian troops pick up it's dead bodies on it's way back to the mother land and keep all the Russian transplants in Crimea who fled back to the home land. They were better off as Russians. The westerners are going to come in and steal everything that is worth a shit after this is over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Anler said: They were better off as Russians. The westerners are going to come in and steal everything that is worth a shit after this is over. As opposed to the Russians coming in and overthrowing the Ukrainians elected government and stealing more than they already had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: As opposed to the Russians coming in and overthrowing the Ukrainians elected government and stealing more than they already had? Putin is faced with an interesting decision. Rush in 300,000 untrained morons and hope to stem the tide of his losses, or eat more devastating losses and send in better trained troops next year. This is a reply of McNamara’s morons during the Vietnam era. Ugly stuff for the Russians. Just getting thrown into the sawmill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Putin is faced with an interesting decision. Rush in 300,000 untrained morons and hope to stem the tide of his losses, or eat more devastating losses and send in better trained troops next year. This is a reply of McNamara’s morons during the Vietnam era. Ugly stuff for the Russians. Just getting thrown into the sawmill. Does Putin have a year? Unrest at home and heavy loses of man and material. by spring the Ukrainians could have most of Russia's troops pushed back to the border in most places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: As opposed to the Russians coming in and overthrowing the Ukrainians elected government and stealing more than they already had? You crane was a corrupt country that was stupid enough to take a drink out of the nato well. Look what that got the people of the country . Fucked and more fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: Does Putin have a year? Unrest at home and heavy loses of man and material. by spring the Ukrainians could have most of Russia's troops pushed back to the border in most places. Spring? Are we going to start sending gazillions. The public all over the world are seeing right through NATOs bullshit. I stand with youcrane ship sailed months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Woodtick said: You crane was a corrupt country that was stupid enough to take a drink out of the nato well. Look what that got the people of the country . Fucked and more fucked. Nato is not invading Ukraine's western border carving out pieces that it likes the look of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Carlos Danger said: Nato is not invading Ukraine's western border carving out pieces that it likes the look of. What if Russia did what nato was doing but on the Mexican boarder? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Does Putin have a year? Unrest at home and heavy loses of man and material. by spring the Ukrainians could have most of Russia's troops pushed back to the border in most places. Ukrainians are a vicious bunch. It’s damn impressive. It really does show the importance of fighting and sacrificing for one’s country. That’s something that has been forgotten in these woke times. They are not backing down. As the old saying goes….give me liberty or give me death. Refreshing to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, Woodtick said: What if Russia did what nato was doing but on the Mexican boarder? Here come the bizarre hypotheticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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