Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Cat designs their motors? Suzuki only built what cat designed? 100% correct the motors of the last 15 yrs were designed in TRF built as sand cast in jap then tested in TRF and modified as needed re sand cast tested repeat till it is what they wanted. they had engineers from zuk working with them from time to time but designed in TRF Edited March 4, 2017 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: what sane corp would want to be in this shit storm of a sport? I cant believe there are still 3 fighting for what just 1 would have to shut down a line for 3 mo a yr to meet production. hey what is the reality of the trails north of say the trestle ? worth the drive? Yeah, we needed a good winter.....started ok but all fell apart. I hear the trails are still holding up ok....but lots of rough patches. Some reports are coming in as "good" but some of these guys think exploratory riding over sections of snirt, rocks and grass to get their standard 180 mile day is "good". Not me. After this weekend's record highs with rain expected Monday....well, I'm holding out hope for March snow but the base is really taking a beating. If you're gonna come up, I'd get here tomorrow. Maybe start in Finland or even further North? Northern MN is weird so you never know but, based on what the weather is showing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Reevester said: Is this faggot coming back to check his line or what? or is he face down in a heap already? probably the last part. 11 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Cat designs their motors? Suzuki only built what cat designed? Yep. This isn't Cat's first rodeo with mil design. Just the first time their name is stamped on the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I am not sure how the brand is going to hold up with guys like Skime and Hibbert senior getting up there and starting to slowly push away from the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: ctec 800 made over 100 ft lbs from 7300-8300 160.8 with 8 hours on the clock production 850 164.8 hp after break in yeah pile of shit if only cat would designate some week chassis modules with ez to remember letters they would really have something Cat seems to have trouble clutching that chassis... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: Cat seems to have trouble clutching that chassis... poo is the only one with clutching out of the box worth a shit doo sucks cat sucks . poo did well getting Rory from team cat yrs back to run there clutching department . cats new team roller shaft primary is a pretty sweet piece. it was on all turbo this season and all sleds next season and early builds out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, Ez ryder said: poo is the only one with clutching out of the box worth a shit doo sucks cat sucks . poo did well getting Rory from team cat yrs back to run there clutching department . cats new team roller shaft primary is a pretty sweet piece. it was on all turbo this season and all sleds next season and early builds out now Never ever had a problem with a Doo clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 really ? the 850s are popping bets like a 12 cat turbo . the XP I personally ride with 3 guys with 800s with major secondary issues . 1 actual burning though the sheave. I don't have picks any more but I did post at 1 time I know zam will remember the pic. then the fact u have to yank the fucking jack shaft off to fuck with secondary WTF is up with that . I have a 600gade xp and have not had belt/ clutch issues but it is only a 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Anler said: Never ever had a problem with a Doo clutch. The 850's are poorly clutched. Pdrive has huge potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: really ? the 850s are popping bets like a 12 cat turbo . the XP I personally ride with 3 guys with 800s with major secondary issues . 1 actual burning though the sheave. I don't have picks any more but I did post at 1 time I know zam will remember the pic. then the fact u have to yank the fucking jack shaft off to fuck with secondary WTF is up with that . I have a 600gade xp and have not had belt/ clutch issues but it is only a 600. Yeah. I remember that pic and sweet fancy Jesus!! i don't give a shit what is in a sled for clutching when I get it anymore. I've graduated past stock clutching. And after going Team Tied and new primary components, shit, stock clutching to go from 1mph up to as far as the lake is long is of ZERO interest to me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 For what we pay for these sleds and the ammount we use them they should run flawlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, jtssrx said: For what we pay for these sleds and the ammount we use them they should run flawlessly Agreed. It's unlikely I'll ever buy new again. I can find one year old sleds with less than a 1000 miles consistently running $3-5k less than new. It just makes no sense to buy new anymore. Unless you are a loan taker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I have a queestion does anyone believe Cat can build a motor that holds a candle tomwhat Yamaha can build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, jtssrx said: I have a queestion does anyone believe Cat can build a motor that holds a candle tomwhat Yamaha can build? yes I do. and like I said I am not 100% sure the new yammi 3hole is not put together in st cloud that was the talk some time back moving production to MN yammi has not really overbuilt a motor in a long time . 1 other thing u don't see many guys running the yammi for snow bikes mostly zuk and ktm/husky. not sure why but interesting. I love yami and wish they did not give up on sleds 12 yrs ago but they did . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Ez ryder said: yeah U know cross country and drag the 2 every one can relate to . Comparing race result to consumer sleds. What kind of fucking drugs you on, Ed Rooney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Comparing race result to consumer sleds. What kind of fucking drugs you on, Ed Rooney? What do you think they ride when they cross country race dummy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 8 hours ago, jtssrx said: The 850's are poorly clutched. Pdrive has huge potential Goodwin is selling the pdrive as a performance upgrade. Roller primary definitely has huge potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Goodwin is selling the pdrive as a performance upgrade. Roller primary definitely has huge potential. I bought one for my 800. The tunability over the tra is awesome. I need more time to dial it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 hours ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Comparing race result to consumer sleds. What kind of fucking drugs you on, Ed Rooney? well CC what do u think they race? drag only the outlaw class is allowed to use a diff chassis 98% of the drag sleds are off the shelf chassis . hell now days over 50% of the motors are off the shelf with bolt on parts. RMSHA again stock chassis over 3/4 of the competitors use the sled they ride in the hills every weekend so yeah racing results are sort of telling . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: well CC what do u think they race? drag only the outlaw class is allowed to use a diff chassis 98% of the drag sleds are off the shelf chassis . hell now days over 50% of the motors are off the shelf with bolt on parts. RMSHA again stock chassis over 3/4 of the competitors use the sled they ride in the hills every weekend so yeah racing results are sort of telling . they mean absolutely nothing to the consumer....race results are about team prep and driver talent. Nothing to do with the sled. A good driver could win on any brand..... Now tell us more about how much more power the zook 1100 can make over the doo 1200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, f7ben said: they mean absolutely nothing to the consumer....race results are about team prep and driver talent. Nothing to do with the sled. A good driver could win on any brand..... Now tell us more about how much more power the zook 1100 can make over the doo 1200 Ed Rooney is seriously on some major fucking drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, f7ben said: they mean absolutely nothing to the consumer....race results are about team prep and driver talent. Nothing to do with the sled. A good driver could win on any brand..... Now tell us more about how much more power the zook 1100 can make over the doo 1200 again show me more world records set by a doo 1200. btw my bud broke one 2 weeks ago again . on a cat again.I actually asked him about your doo remarks he laughed a bit racing has everything to do with the driver and what that driver buys to suit his or her needs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: again show me more world records set by a doo 1200. btw my bud broke one 2 weeks ago again . on a cat again.I actually asked him about your doo remarks he laughed a bit racing has everything to do with the driver and what that driver buys to suit his or her needs . I'll show you vids of a bone stock 1200 with head studs running well over 40psi and 500hp in races if you show me some of a cat ......deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, f7ben said: I'll show you vids of a bone stock 1200 with head studs running well over 40psi and 500hp in races if you show me some of a cat ......deal? show me some sanctioned race results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: show me some sanctioned race results we are discussing how much power the motors can make ....not race results. You claimed the cat could make more power on stock internals and that is pure bullshit spoken by someone who doesnt have a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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